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Posted by Kath on June 17, 2007, at 17:54:25
Jeez!!
Another friend has materialized; is now living with son & his roommate. This guy has 2 jobs & the 3 of them plan to stay where they are 'til the end of July.
WHAT a relief!!
On the other hand, saw son today briefly & had 'messed up' last night, by which he means he got cocaine & owes for it.
I wish I never had kids.
Kath
Posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 19:02:49
In reply to Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! Yay, posted by Kath on June 17, 2007, at 17:54:25
Hi Kath
At least he's not going to live on/under the street in a tent.
He doesn't ever feel like seeing a shaman in the Peruvian jungle or anything?
This society is so boring yet complicated that a fair number of us are driven sideways by it.
Maybe that's why the hunters go into politics?
Posted by Kath on June 17, 2007, at 19:37:14
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » Kath, posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 19:02:49
> Hi Kath
>
> At least he's not going to live on/under the street in a tent.*********Yup!!! The ironic thing is that the whole street under which he was going to live is under construction!!!!!!!!! Even if he COULD have gotten the tent under it & it was high enough to put it up under, there'd have been bulldozers, trucks, etc THUNDERING over him!!!***
> He doesn't ever feel like seeing a shaman in the Peruvian jungle or anything?
*****I'm sure his first question would be what kind of drugs do they have in Peru!!! LOL I've just started reading Eckhart Tolle & am blown away....was just thinking last night how I'd love for my son to read 'Stillness Speaks' & was actually thinking of showing it to him, then this morning I see him & he looks awful; did E on Fri/Sat overnight & last night "messed up" with cocaine again. Oh well..... The Tolle reading is helping give me some peace.********
> This society is so boring yet complicated that a fair number of us are driven sideways by it.
>
> Maybe that's why the hunters go into politics?******Yeah!!! Let's face it, things are pretty messed up!
How are you coping with your 'cold' weather? Are you feeling better? Get around to cutting back those trees yet?Hope you're well. I send many warm thoughts.
luv, Kath********
Posted by TexasChic on June 17, 2007, at 20:03:52
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » Kath, posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 19:02:49
I'm glad he's got a roof over his head, which will ease your mind. As for the drugs, that's completely out of your control. Does he say things to make you feel sorry for him? My sister does that (I've finally realized) when she wants something from me. Its hard for me to resist.
-T
Posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 20:56:17
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » Sigismund, posted by Kath on June 17, 2007, at 19:37:14
Isn't it interesting in his book how he talks of sitting on the park bench thinking how to make it through the pain of his conciousness, and then he (somehow) learned(?) to live in the moment.
There is neccessary pain for us ordinary mortals in conciousness.
I'm just interested in learning to avoid creating more pain for myself, and finding a way to live with an open heart.
Posted by Phillipa on June 17, 2007, at 22:06:29
In reply to Eckhart Tolle » Kath, posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 20:56:17
You're worth a long trip to meet . I'd love that some day. Love PJ
Posted by zenhussy on June 18, 2007, at 15:30:35
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » Sigismund, posted by Kath on June 17, 2007, at 19:37:14
Posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 15:47:02
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!!, posted by TexasChic on June 17, 2007, at 20:03:52
> Does he say things to make you feel sorry for him? My sister does that (I've finally realized) when she wants something from me. Its hard for me to resist.
********I think he says them in a WAY that elicits my "OH DEARRRR" emotional response. In the past I've had it that he'll answer the phone in one voice & when he realizes it's me, the voice changes!!! I don't think he's intentionally manipulating me any more, although I'm sure he's quite capable of it if he wanted to.Yesterday, when he told me he'd 'messed up' with cocaine & owing money, I told him that I didn't want to know how much $ and in the future he is NOT to tell me anything about any of that stuff. He looked disappointed. I feel really glad I said that. So now, I just have to remember if he does say anything, to remind him, "Ooops - I don't want to hear about that. You know how I feel about that (told him I truly believe he should be in rehab). Can't handle knowing that stuff." or something of the sort.
Is your sister involved in using drugs?
Thx for supporting me. It means a LOT.
hugs, Kath
Posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 15:49:45
In reply to Eckhart Tolle » Kath, posted by Sigismund on June 17, 2007, at 20:56:17
> Isn't it interesting in his book how he talks of sitting on the park bench thinking how to make it through the pain of his conciousness, and then he (somehow) learned(?) to live in the moment.
******haven't read that part yet. Bought Stillness Speaks today....had it from the library, but wanted my own copy! Which book is that in - do ya know?*****
> There is neccessary pain for us ordinary mortals in conciousness.
> I'm just interested in learning to avoid creating more pain for myself, and finding a way to live with an open heart.********Yeah - sounds like a good goal. Sometimes my heart feels TOO open!!! Sometimes I FEEL how I'd feel if I were in the other person's situation - and THEY might not even feel badly!!! Do you ever have anything like that?
I send you hugs Declan - xoxoxoxox Kath ****
Posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 15:52:45
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on June 17, 2007, at 22:06:29
> You're worth a long trip to meet . I'd love that some day. Love PJ
I TOTALLY agree!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're QUITE special. Did you realize that Declan? I hope you say 'yes'!!!
(We're often overly modest I think)
Ever plan to travel to Canada or the US?
hugs to both of you, Kath
PS - I'm getting iksited! I packed my actual camping things today into the trunk of car. Now all I need to do is food, clothing, books, shampoo etc. Yayyyyy
Did I tell y'all that hubby bought me a mini-camcorder?
:-))))) Kath
Posted by Sigismund on June 18, 2007, at 15:58:34
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle » Sigismund, posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 15:49:45
Kath, I was referring to "The Power of Now", the only one of his I've read.
Now I *know* all these people in North America, and who knows?, I might even be able to get a visa and handle all the airport security.
That's very nice of you, Kath and Phillipa.
Posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 20:55:50
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle, posted by Sigismund on June 18, 2007, at 15:58:34
Posted by Phillipa on June 18, 2007, at 21:24:56
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle, posted by Sigismund on June 18, 2007, at 15:58:34
Oh please come visit. Or let us visit you. Love Phillipa we'd have fun. Do any of us know really what that is? I need lessons and I think the two of you are the ones to give them to me.
Posted by Kath on June 19, 2007, at 14:47:03
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on June 18, 2007, at 21:24:56
Hmmm
Phillipa, I think you've brought up an interesting question.
What IS fun?????
Hmmmmm - I think it's fun sometimes to do something silly, like running around on my driveway in bare feet in the rain, splashing in the water. I wouldn't do it alone, but I'd do it with my 31 yr old daughter...we like things like that.
Fun versus Enjoyment ??????????
Hugs, Kath
Posted by Kath on June 19, 2007, at 14:48:13
In reply to Re: Eckhart Tolle » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on June 18, 2007, at 21:24:56
Posted by TexasChic on June 19, 2007, at 20:00:15
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » TexasChic, posted by Kath on June 18, 2007, at 15:47:02
No, she's not into drugs, but the manipulation is the same. Basically just trying to get me to do things for her by appealing to my sensitivity. Last time I was over there she said, "Well, my hairdryer finally went out". I don't know what she means by 'finally' because I bought that one for her just a couple of years ago. But I could tell she was trying to get me to feel bad in the hopes that I would buy her a new one. That's just a small example of her manipulation techniques. Its been a challenge to learn how to hold back that feeling in order to keep from being taken advantage of. Plus, you know you're not doing the person any good by encouraging their dependence on you. Sometimes it makes it easier when you think about it like that, that way you don't feel like you're being selfish. If something happened to us what would they do then? Who would take care of them? They need to learn how to take care of themselves.
-T
Posted by Kath on June 21, 2007, at 11:56:51
In reply to Re: Son is no longer planning to live in tent!!!! » Kath, posted by TexasChic on June 19, 2007, at 20:00:15
I agree - I think it's a good way to look at it & yeah - we WON'T always be able to help them!
Maybe we can be 'non-manipulation' buddies!!
Stay well T. I'm off shortly for my camping trip.
hugs, Kath
> No, she's not into drugs, but the manipulation is the same. Basically just trying to get me to do things for her by appealing to my sensitivity. Last time I was over there she said, "Well, my hairdryer finally went out". I don't know what she means by 'finally' because I bought that one for her just a couple of years ago. But I could tell she was trying to get me to feel bad in the hopes that I would buy her a new one. That's just a small example of her manipulation techniques. Its been a challenge to learn how to hold back that feeling in order to keep from being taken advantage of. Plus, you know you're not doing the person any good by encouraging their dependence on you. Sometimes it makes it easier when you think about it like that, that way you don't feel like you're being selfish. If something happened to us what would they do then? Who would take care of them? They need to learn how to take care of themselves.
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> -T
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