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Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to Re: Sexuality With Reference to Gender » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 19, 2007, at 19:26:56
Hi Q
>Or would he, if in every other aspect he had the appearance of a man? Are you saying gender is purely an issue of genital tissue?
No, but not many men have vaginas. It is, after all, a characteristic that one normally associates with women ;)
>Allow if you will that gender had evolved the other way around, with women having the penis and men having the vagina. Would the genital tissue make all the difference to you?
I have no idea :)
>some hard-to-pin-down-and-examine essence of man that I often find lacking in myself and fellow homosexuals
I know what you mean there. There's something about hetero men that is more attractive - nice hetero men that is. Gay men are usually unattractive to me.
>For example, do you find 'shemales' attractive simply because they have a penis? I don't because I still perceive them as women despite their anomalous appendages.
......but a she-male is a man with breast implants and make-up etc. I would perceive a she-male as being a man, not as a woman. I don't find she-males attractive though, although they are interesting.
>It has a lot to do with the photo I found
The one you once emailed me? It was certainly interesting but would probably be a lot more shocking in real life that it was in the picture.
Overall, I'm hoping to meet a nice friendly young man........definitely not a man with a vagina :D
K
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to Psychosexual Hermaphroditism » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 19, 2007, at 20:05:49
Hi Q
>am comfortable playing both male and female roles in the sexual act
I never think of sex between men as involving male and female roles. Since both participants are men, I think of both roles as being male.
K
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to heterosexuality: a social construct, posted by elanor roosevelt on March 19, 2007, at 22:10:23
>heterosexuality as the "norm" is a social construct
It's also a statistical fact that most people are heterosexual, for what that's worth.
>it's conveniently repressive, it is homophobia
That most people are attracted to the opposite sex? I always thought it was a natural instinct.
>don't worry homosexuality is here to stay
I would imagine so.
Q
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to Re: Sexuality With Reference to Gender » Quintal, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 14:20:29
>No, but not many men have vaginas. It is, after all, a characteristic that one normally associates with women ;)
Actually I normally associate breasts, wide hips and smooth, delicate features with women since I rarely see their vaginas. The gonads are (perhaps paradoxically) fairly gender neutral to me when I explore the matter more deeply.
>......but a she-male is a man with breast implants and make-up etc. I would perceive a she-male as being a man, not as a woman.
Well the breast implants, make-up, hour-glass hips etc. would be signalling 'female' to the gender detector in my mind, despite the penis. I wonder who they are aimed at, it's not gay men is it? I think most of their admirers are men who 'identify themselves' as heterosexual. FredPotter et al, what is your position on 'shemales'?
I wonder what lesbians make of them? Are there any free thinking lesbians around here? Could you imagine yourself having sex with a 'shemale'? Do they attract you, do they repulse you?
>I know what you mean there. There's something about hetero men that is more attractive - nice hetero men that is. Gay men are usually unattractive to me.
Yup, and therein I think lies a lot of frustration and dissatisfaction for gay men.
Q
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to Re: Sexuality With Reference to Gender » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 14:44:03
O my goodness.
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:48
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 19, 2007, at 20:11:49
>I agree, but don't you think this is simply a reversal of the roles (though women always claimed they would have more sense than to indulge in the silly behaviours of men)?
Yes, I suppose so.......but two wrongs don't make a right. Please excuse the cliche.
K
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Declan's position on she-males » Quintal, posted by Declan on March 20, 2007, at 14:49:04
That's a very cute position to have Dec :)
I assume you prefer more natural men without breast implants?
K
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » FredPotter, posted by Phillipa on March 19, 2007, at 21:47:42
>Fred you're funny they just swing back and forth and look ridiculous. I always say mooo looks like cow the underside. Love Phillipa maybe tie a bell around something down there like the cows in Switzerland all have different bells?
Phillipa I'm lost!
Ed xx
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct, posted by FredPotter on March 19, 2007, at 22:27:40
>don't worry about things like this. Just take an SSRI or MAOI. That'll stop all this sex nonsense
Good point Fred.........just realised I haven't had a sexual thought all day.
K
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct » FredPotter, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 14:57:37
You could try tianeptine, or did that fail?
Q
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Declan's position on she-males » Declan, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 14:53:19
I was just impressed that my opinion on this unusual subject might be of any interest to anyone.
Naturally (I guess) I think she-males are cool....but I kinda disagree with the implants.
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent?, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 14:50:39
>Yes, I suppose so.......but two wrongs don't make a right. Please excuse the cliche.
I suppose what I'm saying is that it's almost like a force, a role, or a 'spirit' that dominant people tend to adopt, so until we all become well-behaved morally conscious beings there will be people behaving like that. The sex of the dominant person seems to make no difference, hence 'ladettes', although they may be considered even more vicious than their male counterparts by some.
Q
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Quintal's Final Solution, to the Gender Question, posted by Quintal on March 18, 2007, at 0:50:57
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/Serepham/HermDraw2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/Serepham/HermDrawFront.jpgQ, I don't like the idea of having one testis on each side of the vagina. Balls are pretty cool, let's not split them up!
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Quintal's Final Solution, to the Gender Question » Quintal, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 15:11:23
Oh but they do hang down together like a pair of culottes, having the appearance of a single scrotum when standing up. They're just separated for illustration purposes.
Q
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Quintal's Final Solution, to the Gender Question » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 15:18:30
>Oh but they do hang down together like a pair of culottes, having the appearance of a single scrotum when standing up. They're just separated for illustration purposes.
Lol, this is very intricately planned!
K
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Homosexuality, and its tentacles, posted by notfred on March 16, 2007, at 2:58:57
Hi NotFred,
Interesting to hear something about your life. I didn't know anything about your life before.
K
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Homosexuality, and its tentacles » notfred, posted by kaleidoscope on March 20, 2007, at 15:32:12
I was thinking that myself actually, but he seems to be opening up since starting Lamictal. This has a revelatory thread I feel.
Q
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Dark Horses » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 15:39:12
Is Lamictal that good?
I had no idea.
Posted by Quintal on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:49
In reply to Re: Dark Horses, posted by Declan on March 20, 2007, at 15:59:51
I meant to say: "This has been a revelatory thread I feel".
But yes, I had a good response to it for two years where it at least kept me rock solid stable, if a little befuddled.
Q
Posted by Quintella on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Dark Horses, posted by Declan on March 20, 2007, at 15:59:51
Okay, I've taken the hint from some here that my feminine side may be happier if I was living as a woman. It's an interesting idea so I thought I might put it to the test.
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Posted by Quintella on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Babblename Gender Reassignment, posted by Quintella on March 20, 2007, at 21:37:21
It feels wrong. I just posted to FredPotter as a woman, and felt like a stranger to myself. After only an hour I find myself reaching instinctively for my 'al' only for hand to snatch at empty space. It's strange and disturbing. I am definitely not transgendered.
I have made a request for the good doctor to reverse it. I'm going to bed now and hopefully when I wake this will all be over.
Q
Posted by Ken Blades on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Ken Blades, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 11:50:41
No, but perhaps YOU would feel more comfortable...
or happier[eventually]. I realize you get off
on your intellectualizations that prompt
responses from the board population, but is
that LIFE? Seems rather sad to me.But hey, that's just my humble opinion. Do whatever
floats your boat.Ken
Posted by Quint on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Quintal, posted by Ken Blades on March 21, 2007, at 2:53:17
>No, but perhaps YOU would feel more >comfortable...
>or happier[eventually]. I realize you get off
>on your intellectualizations that prompt
>responses from the board population, but is
>that LIFE?Yes, I do and yes, it is. Especially for most people who post here.
>Seems rather sad to me.
That would carry more weight if you weren't a regular contributor to this thread yourself.
It disappoints me when people try to discourage others from posting on topics they find unnerving with derisive name calling like this. One thing I've never done upon reading a post I consider truly sad, rambling or boring is to fire off an irate response pleading for the person to stop posting, not on a message board when I can click on the little x in the top right corner of the screen and move on to a thread I find more interesting.
Q
Posted by gardenergirl on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Quintal, posted by Ken Blades on March 21, 2007, at 2:53:17
> I realize you get off
> on your intellectualizations that prompt
> responses from the board population, but is
> that LIFE? Seems rather sad to me.Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down or jump to conclusions. Dinah previously asked you to be civil, so now I am blocking you for a week. If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to Psycho-Babble Administration and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action. If you wish, you can appeal this decision to him.
namaste
gg, acting as deputy
Posted by gardenergirl on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Ken Blades, posted by Quint on March 21, 2007, at 6:04:26
> It disappoints me when people try to discourage others from posting on topics they find unnerving with derisive name calling like this.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Dinah previously asked you to be civil, so now I am blocking you from posting for a week. I've asked Dr. Bob to correct your screen name as per your request, so hopefully that name will be available for you to use when your block is up.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to the Admin board and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.Thus, you can always appeal this decision to him.namaste
gg, acting as deputy
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