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Posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:17:26
In reply to The anti-Bob?, posted by curtm on July 13, 2006, at 12:17:47
I see they've attracted 5 members to the group in about 4 years.
Average of 1.25 people interested per year! wow!!!!!!!!!
I'm just so.........
That's just.............well........it's just.
:-) - 10der (hopefully successfully remaining civil, and more than happy to do so)
Posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:29:09
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 15:46:41
Um...I'm no authority, but I'd wonder if all these links are civil, particularly the second one.
We are supposed to avoid direct links to uncivil material in our posts.
There are some things insinuated and/or plainly written about posters here, who are clearly identified by name. And many of the things appear uncivil according to Babble standards, IMO.
Just a caution.....
Posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:30:18
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by Deneb on July 13, 2006, at 13:30:03
Posted by curmudgeon on July 13, 2006, at 16:35:20
In reply to The anti-Bob?, posted by curtm on July 13, 2006, at 12:17:47
Posted by curtm on July 13, 2006, at 16:37:09
In reply to I wish I hadn't posted to this thread :-( (nm), posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:30:18
Don't be afraid!!
We might as well close our eyesto the real world. Hide in caves. People are entitled to their own opinions. I am capable of making my own. I like DB'ssite here. I am not scathed by what someone else says, but it is out there. Thought it was very interesting. Adds some contrast and perspective, no?
Posted by gardenergirl on July 13, 2006, at 18:45:57
In reply to If the shoe fits........ (nm), posted by curmudgeon on July 13, 2006, at 16:35:20
you're much less likely to get blisters from friction.
Ain't that grand?
gg
Posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 20:45:44
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » caraher, posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:29:09
> Um...I'm no authority, but I'd wonder if all these links are civil, particularly the second one.
Hmmm... I hadn't really considered that. The yahoo group page in the original post is pretty "uncivil" in the choice of words hurled at Dr. Bob. And I didn't read the other links in detail. I understand them to be pages created by critics of this site, got their gist and moved on. I'm sorry if anyone was disturbed by them.
Concerning membership in that Yahoo group, not only does it list only 5 members but 4 have joined in the past week. I wouldn't be at all surprised if all 4 joined out of curiosity after seeing this thread!
Posted by Phillipa on July 13, 2006, at 21:36:11
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » 10derHeart, posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 20:45:44
I just think there are a lot of angry people in the world. Very spiteful. I'll stay right here. Love Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on July 13, 2006, at 22:37:30
In reply to The anti-Bob?, posted by curtm on July 13, 2006, at 12:17:47
Oh darn, you have to join the group to read the messages.
Love the Evil Dr Bob photo!
Posted by wildcardII on July 13, 2006, at 23:03:53
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » curtm, posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2006, at 16:17:26
that was my exact thought..lol
to each his/her own...
Posted by james K on July 14, 2006, at 1:32:21
In reply to LOL-popular site » 10derHeart, posted by wildcardII on July 13, 2006, at 23:03:53
I feel important. I thought I was just communicating with 30 or 40 interesting people. Now I know there is a whole world that gives a crap. If they don't like what I say, or where I say it, there might be a whole web-site devoted to it. Someone in Iceland or Korea may be concerned about my block. That's huge. I may have more readers than Dickens or King.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2006, at 7:04:46
In reply to Re: LOL-popular site, posted by james K on July 14, 2006, at 1:32:21
There used to be a hilarious blog in response to one listed in the OP. That one used to really crack me up, and it allowed others to comment (versus the one about Dr. Bob). Unfortunately, it appears the author lost interest, because it's done now. :(
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2006, at 7:08:55
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by Phillipa on July 13, 2006, at 21:36:11
Yeah hate s*cks. Pathological hate can allow for finding compassion in the hater if you look hard enough. Still, it's interesting that the more someone hates something or someone else, the more value they assign to the object of hatred. A bit of a paradox, I think. I find indifference to be so much more effective.
gg
Posted by curtm on July 14, 2006, at 8:41:47
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » 10derHeart, posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 20:45:44
The other negative sites don't affect me in the least. If anything, they reinforce my positivity.
I am sorry if I made a mistake by posting it...
Posted by AuntieMel on July 15, 2006, at 15:15:28
In reply to snort!, posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2006, at 7:04:46
That the other spot's author got bored with it all.....
I loved reading it.
Posted by AuntieMel on July 15, 2006, at 15:17:27
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by curtm on July 14, 2006, at 8:41:47
Would one of you guys that just joined so you could read it babblemail me a password so I could read it, too?
Better still, make a new one and share with us all..
Posted by Jost on July 15, 2006, at 20:13:50
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » 10derHeart, posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 20:45:44
> > Um...I'm no authority, but I'd wonder if all these links are civil, particularly the second one.
>
> Hmmm... I hadn't really considered that. The yahoo group page in the original post is pretty "uncivil" in the choice of words hurled at Dr. Bob. And I didn't read the other links in detail. I understand them to be pages created by critics of this site, got their gist and moved on. I'm sorry if anyone was disturbed by them.
>
>You know, one of the anti-Bobs has some very good points, which give me pause. One thing that I wonder about is the idea that if you post a link, and anything on that page might make someone feel bad (eg, because it criticizes Dr. Bob, as in this case), that link is uncivil.
We've probably come up against things, here and there in life, that make us uncomfortable-- and I can accept that there needs to be some tempering of what's said on the site here-- But I'd rather have the chance to read some things offsite that I liked, and that interested and informed me, even as against thechance of bumping into ones that might offend or trample on my sensibilities.
There is such a thing as chilling speech-- even if you don't have "free speech"-- which would also be a loss and an unfortunate outcome.
Jost
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2006, at 8:42:09
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by Jost on July 15, 2006, at 20:13:50
I doubt it was Bob she was talking about.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on July 16, 2006, at 10:50:01
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » Jost, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2006, at 8:42:09
Personally, I rather like it here, and that includes being civil to everyone here. I mean, I really don't think I'd come here if I knew there was a chance that I'd get 'attacked'... I'm much more open with the civility rules in place.
I mean, if we were all here in person in a group meeting, well, we wouldn't launch into an offensive or attack someone like we do over the internet. Or at least I hope not. I certainly don't!!!
Posted by Gabbi~G on July 16, 2006, at 15:49:48
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by Jost on July 15, 2006, at 20:13:50
I think there are a lot of excellent points too. It's unfortunate (in my eyes) that there are personal attacks on posters as well, that makes me .. (Too many adjectives, and probably not civil : ) but it also I think prompts people to be dismissive of everything else that's said.
Posted by curtm on July 17, 2006, at 9:11:05
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » Jost, posted by Gabbi~G on July 16, 2006, at 15:49:48
The good babblers have taken the opportunity to have a civil discussion about this issue instead of stooping to a lower level and demeaning the other sites. I am proud to be a part of this.
PS -still sorry for posting it (to those who were offended.)
:)
Posted by Jost on July 20, 2006, at 22:34:27
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob? » Jost, posted by Gabbi~G on July 16, 2006, at 15:49:48
I'm for civility, and not allowing personal attacks, definitely.
There's a gray area, or penumbra, though where someone might say something that makes other people feel bad. Within the gray area, I think it's good to be discriminating-- but also to give leaway.
I don't know. Some of it's really subjective. I've seen instances where someone has said that something hurt them-- and I think they meant they wanted it to be deemed uncivil. And while it matters and isn't good, I'm not sure that's exactly the measure.
But then there might be something that will bother me, that other people don't see -- I don't necessarily think the person shouldn't be allowed to say it-- although I'd want to say why it particularly got to me. Ad hominem stuff is not in the gray area, of course.
I guess I personally wondered about some instances cited on that board--- they gave me some pause about things here. But maybe I didn't know the entire story--.
Jost
Posted by Racer on July 25, 2006, at 22:23:47
In reply to Re: The anti-Bob?, posted by caraher on July 13, 2006, at 15:46:41
On the [xxx] site? I was going to leave a comment, but when I went to the page, it's limited to "team members."
{shrug} I guess that's one way to ensure you're never contradicted...
Posted by Jost on July 25, 2006, at 22:49:16
In reply to Has anyone noticed that you can't comment?, posted by Racer on July 25, 2006, at 22:23:47
I noticed that, but it's an option to have comments or not, so I thought it might be because the person wants to protect themselves from being hurt.
Comments coming out of the blue could do that.
What comment would you have made, if you'd like to say?
Jost
Posted by Racer on July 26, 2006, at 0:49:18
In reply to Re: Has anyone noticed that you can't comment? » Racer, posted by Jost on July 25, 2006, at 22:49:16
>> What comment would you have made, if you'd like to say?
>
> JostI wanted to point out that GG's post didn't attribute the motive behind the site to hate -- it simply said that hate was damaging, and that indifference was probably more effective as well as healthier. There's nothing in that post -- you can see it here: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060709/msgs/666973.html -- that says anything about hate as being the motive for the site in question.
Of course, being me, I'd probably have pointed out that misinterpretation of that sort is likely a big part of the writer's hurt feelings, as well as a big part of the accusations of anti-Semitism that are posted here periodically. And that they don't do much to advance the writer's cause.
You're right, though. My reaction might cause some hurt feelings. Personally, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to censor myself for that reason, though, because I think that what's written there has more than the potential to hurt feelings. I say that because I am one of the posters referred to, and my feelings were certainly not soothed by it.
I guess that's another place where you have to ask where the line is between something having the potential to hurt feelings, versus something which caused hurt feelings. Does that make sense?
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