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Posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
Anyone found any miracle cream, lotion, potion, etc. they love for these irritations of maturing?
I've tried several low end products and have not been impressed. A friend told me they LOVE that Strivectin stuff but it's rather pricey and not easy to find. I don't know if it's worth the effort or the hurtin' on the purse.
I hope this doesn't get redirected to the echoey area of the health board - my wrinkles are NOT about me feeling healthy. (smile producing crinkles)
The Easter Bunny should have gotten me some Botox.
Suggestions?
Posted by Racer on April 28, 2006, at 13:20:17
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
Basis is what my dermatologist recommended when I was a teenager, and I've used it on and off since then for washing my face. I also use Eucerin moisturizer with sunscreen, which I like.
But if you are willing to spend a bit more, I really like Clarins' face treatment oils. Very nice stuff, my face always feels kinda glowy and dewy when I wake up after putting it on the night before.
And if those don't help, my wrinkles nearly disappeared when I put a coat of Vaseline over every reflecting surface in my life!
Posted by gardenergirl on April 28, 2006, at 14:21:14
In reply to Eucerin and Basis, posted by Racer on April 28, 2006, at 13:20:17
I've been using their products for at least six years. They have a few different lines of anti-aging stuff depending on your needs (i.e. how many and how deep of wrinkles). They are of course pricier than drugstore stuff, but for cosmetic counters, they are not so bad.
Also, the sun and smoking can really age your skin. I saw photos once of 50 year old twin women. One had smoked all her life and not used sunscreen adequately. The other never smoked and was very good about using sunscreen. She looked about 15 years younger! Fortunately, I've never smoked, and I use makeup with sunscreen in it everyday all year long. I think it's helping. Most folks do not believe I'm about to turn 40. (Well, maybe they're being nice. And it depends on whether I need to cover my gray roots). :)
gg
Posted by crazy teresa on April 28, 2006, at 16:00:05
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
especially the moisturizer for eye and lips
Posted by madeline on April 28, 2006, at 18:07:30
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
Okay,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But very very very few OTC products help with wrinkles at all. The active ingredient in the vast majority of them is sunscreen.
The only thing that has been clinically proven in trial after trial to eliminate wrinkles is active retinoic acid. Sold under the brand names Retin-A and Renova.
They are available by prescription only.Now, Avon (yes Avon) sells a variety of products that I just love, including a wonderful little product for the eyes with hyaluronic acid (HA) in it. HA is a GREAT moisturizer. They also have a line eliminator that had retinoic acid in it, but not enough to require a prescription, so I doubt it's enough to have any effect.
Posted by TexasChic on April 28, 2006, at 18:37:01
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
There's one called 'Healthy Skin' that has alpha-hydroxy in it. It exfoliates your skin. I think it just makes mine look better overall. I use it everyday. It also has a sunscreen. The best thing about it is, its popular enough to come in the store brand at Walmart! I buy everything store brand if I can.
I'm just now starting to see signs of wrinkles and its freaking me out. Its mainly on my eyelids. I remember when I was young I liked to do people's hair and makeup, so my Mom and a couple of Aunt's asked me to make them up one day. I was kind of freaked out when I first started putting eyeshadow on my Mom. The skin on her eyelid would wrinkle up when pushed, and then stay there! It was the same way with my aunts. I thought it was so weird. Now that is what my eyelids are doing!!!
I've been lucky not to really have any wrinkles for so long. Everyone always thinks I'm about 10 years younger than I am. I get ID'd for beer everytime! So I guess I should be happy not to have gotten any until I was 36.
Oh, BTW, I smoked for 15+ years and baked in the sun too. I think the reason I haven't had wrinkles is because I've always had very oily skin. I guess its a natural moisterizer. I do have freckles and spots though, and I know that's from the sun.
From what I read, no lotion or cream will take away wrinkles permanently, they just make them less visible while you're wearing it.
-T
Posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 18:59:54
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
Posted by TexasChic on April 28, 2006, at 21:02:02
In reply to I use Lava. (nm) » Glydin, posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 18:59:54
Posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 21:12:01
In reply to I use Lava. (nm) » Glydin, posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 18:59:54
Now there's an idea....
I have some Goop hand cleaner that is great for taking paint off skin so scaling down those ravines of the face, well, it just might work... AND I would be left with a fresh orange scent.
Posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 21:49:51
In reply to Lava, I thought that was extinct! (nm) » Phil, posted by TexasChic on April 28, 2006, at 21:02:02
My dear, Fine toiletries are here to stay! : )
Posted by gardenergirl on April 28, 2006, at 21:50:06
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Phil, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 21:12:01
That reminds me of my grandmother. She always had Lava soap on the sink.
gg
Posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2006, at 21:54:04
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Phil, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 21:12:01
Believe it or not laser treatment of the skin works wonders and is not expensive compared to pricey cosmetics. I myself loved clarins but there come a time when from being in sun all my life that more radical treatment is needed. A laser does not hurt removes brown spots and surface wrinkles. price $100 a treatment you may need two but add up the cost of the cosmetics and they say vaseline is as good as any of them. Oh how we feed the cosmetics counter. Love Phillipa ps think I'll get it done again amd it was done at the plastic surgeons office they have peels too. Oh they also sell excellent products prices the same as the store,
Posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 22:04:53
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Phil, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 21:12:01
"I have some Goop hand cleaner that is great for taking paint off skin so scaling down those ravines of the face, well, it just might work... AND I would be left with a fresh orange scent."
Sexy!!!
Goop!! Wonder what their next product will be called? Slop?
Posted by Racer on April 29, 2006, at 1:34:57
In reply to Re: I use Lava., posted by gardenergirl on April 28, 2006, at 21:50:06
> That reminds me of my grandmother. She always had Lava soap on the sink.
>
> gg*I'm* the one who has Lava soap by the sink! And I do NOT remind you of your Grandmother! After using copper cleaner on my pots, I wash them with Lava soap, every time.
Oh, don't ask me why. My mother said that You Must Wash Copper Bottomed Pots With Lava Soap After Cleaning The Copper With Kleen King Copper Cleaner, And It Must Be Done Every Time They Are Used. {shrug} Can't say I never listened, huh?
(Of course, I always loved Lava soap -- something about that pumicey feel to it maybe.)
Posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 7:35:09
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Glydin, posted by Phil on April 28, 2006, at 22:04:53
> Goop!! Wonder what their next product will be called? Slop?
>That is funny...
Reminds me of a discussion I had recently regarding the names of stuff to removal sticky residue off items: Goof Off, Gunk Off, Goo Gone. I guess putting: "Sticky Cr@p Remover" didn't go over well in focus groups.
Posted by Tabitha on April 29, 2006, at 12:21:37
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Phil, posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 7:35:09
Sticky Cr@p Remover. I love that.
I wonder if a Lava facial would be as good as those 90 dollar "home microdermabrasion" kits they sell now?
I like the laser idea too. Despite all my efforts to avoid sun, I've got quite a bit of damage on my face and the back of my hands after living 20 years in a sunny climate. If only all my skin looked like the underside of my forearms, I'd be lovely. Pale, smooth, and poreless. Guess I should've spent my life in a darkened room.
Posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2006, at 12:48:14
In reply to Re: I use Lava., posted by Tabitha on April 29, 2006, at 12:21:37
Tabitha unfortunately that's what happened to me too. Too much time in the sun but years ago a tan was supposed to be healthy. And now I have freckles all over my legs and arms too. Definitely from the sun. This also places me at a high risk of skin cancer so I feel I need to remove as much damage as I can. I've seen too many cases of cancer on the face , ears, and nose but too much sun exposure. Now I won't go in the sun without sunscreen. Something they didn't even know about years ago. Too late now to reverse the damage but hopefully I can keep it from getting worse and pay attention to mole and freckle changes. Gee I sound like a commercial for skin cancer. And for all around moisturizer I like Melaleuca which I'm almost out of and you have to be a member to get so back to the plastics guy more laseer and the zinc preparations of sun screen are supposed to be the best ones. Love Phillipa
Posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 15:32:01
In reply to Re: I use Lava. » Tabitha, posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2006, at 12:48:14
I admit, despite knowing all the dangers and having a Dad that's had a skin cancer removed, I STILL have a difficult time coming to grips with not thinking a tan (within reason - not the severe dried dull shoe leather variety) looks "good". I think I have an engrained preception that doesn't make it easy for me to switch my paradigm.
I have been careful about my face for a while, it's the remainder of my "exposed" skin that I really don't like looking pale and Casper-like (lardish?).I have resigned myself to the use of self tanners and have accepted their sometimes unpredictable results. I've gotten fairly good with the process... hey, Lava might be an exfoliation idea addition there too.
Anyone remember Swedish Tanning Secret Tanning Butter?
Feel free to throw bottles of sunscreen at me....
Posted by crazy teresa on April 29, 2006, at 19:23:14
In reply to Baby oil with iodine reflector era, posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 15:32:01
And I fit into a bikini... That was a really long time ago! ;~}
Posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 20:08:35
In reply to Oh yeah! Baby oil w/ iodine bubbles... » Glydin, posted by crazy teresa on April 29, 2006, at 19:23:14
> And I fit into a bikini... That was a really long time ago! ;~}
Me too... sigh.
I remember saving babysitting and odd job money for the essential Hang Ten verson that was the equivalent size of two dixie cups and 1/2 of a hanywipe with some dental floss involved... it's difficult for me to even THINK I managed that at one time....
Posted by Racer on April 29, 2006, at 21:46:17
In reply to Re: Oh yeah! Baby oil w/ iodine bubbles... » crazy teresa, posted by Glydin on April 29, 2006, at 20:08:35
lol
Yep. I remember them days, too, although I have NEVER worn a bikini. (I have a very large surgical scar on my stomach, straight up the middle, and I was ashamed of it for a long time. Now I'm only ashamed of the fat belly it's on, but would love to show off the scar... Guess it's progres...)
In my case, though, my mother believed that it was good to get sun on one's bare skin, so until I was -- well, probably until about the time I moved out -- I had at least one major sunburn every year. First degree burn from the sun once or twice. In the summers, Mom would basically lock me out of the house all day. If I couldn't figure out what to do with myself, I could come out into the garden while she weeded, and read to her. Or just read. Or just talk. But she would tell me to move every time the shade covered me, so that I stayed in the sun.
I dunno. Maybe she was just making sure I wasn't a vampire?
Posted by crazy teresa on April 29, 2006, at 22:19:35
In reply to Sing along, 'Bain de Soliel for the St Tropez tan' » Glydin, posted by Racer on April 29, 2006, at 21:46:17
I still use that! The smell takes me right back to my carefree jr. high yrs. (before boys!), except now I use the sunscreen, not just accelerator...
Posted by Glydin on April 30, 2006, at 8:42:21
In reply to Sing along, 'Bain de Soliel for the St Tropez tan' » Glydin, posted by Racer on April 29, 2006, at 21:46:17
Ah yes, the orange gelee in the metal tube that got all runny when heated by the sun we were baking in.
I remember my Grandmother being appalled by bikini sizes of the time. I can only imagine what her commentary would be now. She stated it wasn't "proper" to be so half naked and all we were doing was inviting the wrong "element". I remember thinking even at the time: ... uh, that's kinda the idea isn't it?
Golly... poolside, lakeside, summer camp memories of tannage. I'll probably be recounting them when I'm in my old folks home.
Posted by Dinah on May 7, 2006, at 20:35:45
In reply to Wrinkles, crinkles, frownies and such, posted by Glydin on April 28, 2006, at 10:28:52
That's one good thing about being fat. I have the skin of a much younger woman. Just a *lot* of it.
Except for the skin tags I guess.
My mother had the same beneficial side effect. She's well into her seventies now, and no one ever believes it.
Come to think of it, though, my slender father never wrinkled. At the end his skin got too big for him and he sort of sagged. But never wrinkled.
Finally! Some decent genes for something!
I don't suppose anyone would want to be sixty pounds overweight as a cure for wrinkles though.
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