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Posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 9:11:26
I'm normally a fairly quiet, easy-going person. But this morning I am totally consumed with this awful anger...why or at what I don't know. At the same time, it's also frightening because I'm saying things I shouldn't. Trying to get any work done is impossible. Absolutely everything is pissing me off! I don't know what to do with myself. I think this is the "bad" kind of hypomania, and maybe my Depakote should be increased. This is awful...I need help now!
Posted by ClearSkies on January 26, 2006, at 9:45:03
In reply to Unreasonable anger, posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 9:11:26
It could also be depression. I had horrible rages when my depression was at its worst... I was turning the anger I felt about myself towards the world around me. And I didn't even realize it at the time.
It's frightening.ClearSkies
Posted by James K on January 26, 2006, at 11:09:18
In reply to Unreasonable anger, posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 9:11:26
That can help in the short term. Just to get through a moment and through the day. Slowly fill the bottom of the stomach/lungs, then the top, then completely release bottom first. repeat several times.
this may not be new to you, but I need to be reminded when I'm at that point.
James K
Posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 13:31:32
In reply to Do you do any breathing exercises? » Berberis, posted by James K on January 26, 2006, at 11:09:18
This morning I was so beyond controlling my anger, breathing techniques wouldn't have cut it. I wanted to kill. Fortunately, it dissipated and now I'm back to plain old depressed.
But I truly do appreciate your response.
Posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 13:39:03
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger, posted by ClearSkies on January 26, 2006, at 9:45:03
> It could also be depression. I had horrible rages when my depression was at its worst... I was turning the anger I felt about myself towards the world around me. And I didn't even realize it at the time.
> It's frightening.You're right, it could be the depression. But the last couple of weeks my moods swing from ok to depression to anxiety in a matter of hours. Now I can add anger to the mix.
Posted by James K on January 26, 2006, at 13:45:51
In reply to Re: Do you do any breathing exercises? » James K, posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 13:31:32
> This morning I was so beyond controlling my anger, breathing techniques wouldn't have cut it. I wanted to kill. Fortunately, it dissipated and now I'm back to plain old depressed.
>
> But I truly do appreciate your response.You're welcome. I can't do it unless someone I truly respect and trust tells me to do it in the moment. Some have more regulation than me, and you this morning.
Peace,
james
Posted by TexasChic on January 26, 2006, at 19:51:16
In reply to Unreasonable anger, posted by Berberis on January 26, 2006, at 9:11:26
> I'm normally a fairly quiet, easy-going person. But this morning I am totally consumed with this awful anger...why or at what I don't know. At the same time, it's also frightening because I'm saying things I shouldn't. Trying to get any work done is impossible. Absolutely everything is pissing me off! I don't know what to do with myself. I think this is the "bad" kind of hypomania, and maybe my Depakote should be increased. This is awful...I need help now!
I have no idea how old you are or even if you're male or female, but I thought I'd share anyway. The only time I've experienced what you described was when I was on a medication that puts you in a medically induced menopause. I've never before or since felt anything like the abrupt rage that would run through me all of a sudden. I literally felt like I could beat someone, and I'm a total passivist (normally). Luckily I only had to stay on it 6 months, but I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with me when that time really comes!
-T
Posted by Phillipa on January 26, 2006, at 20:10:24
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger » Berberis, posted by TexasChic on January 26, 2006, at 19:51:16
Just a thought could you be bipolar. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Berberis on January 27, 2006, at 12:34:33
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger » Berberis, posted by TexasChic on January 26, 2006, at 19:51:16
> > I'm normally a fairly quiet, easy-going person. But this morning I am totally consumed with this awful anger...why or at what I don't know. At the same time, it's also frightening because I'm saying things I shouldn't. Trying to get any work done is impossible. Absolutely everything is pissing me off! I don't know what to do with myself. I think this is the "bad" kind of hypomania, and maybe my Depakote should be increased. This is awful...I need help now!
>
> I have no idea how old you are or even if you're male or female, but I thought I'd share anyway. The only time I've experienced what you described was when I was on a medication that puts you in a medically induced menopause. I've never before or since felt anything like the abrupt rage that would run through me all of a sudden. I literally felt like I could beat someone, and I'm a total passivist (normally). Luckily I only had to stay on it 6 months, but I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with me when that time really comes!
>
> -T
>
>
Interesting. As a matter of fact, I'm female, menopausal, age 51. I didn't start having serious psych issues until I became menopausal. There's no doubt in my mind that hormones (i.e. lack of estrogen) have played a BIG role in my illness.
Posted by Berberis on January 27, 2006, at 12:35:57
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger, posted by Phillipa on January 26, 2006, at 20:10:24
> Just a thought could you be bipolar. Fondly, Phillipa
Yep. And I have had instances of unreasonable anger in the past but nothing like this.
Posted by TexasChic on January 27, 2006, at 19:26:13
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger » TexasChic, posted by Berberis on January 27, 2006, at 12:34:33
I bet it is hormones. When I was on that medication, I developed a whole new respect for hormones. I don't really understand how it works though. I don't see how hormones are different from seretonin when they sometimes have the same results.
When my Mom went through menopause she would have fits and throw stuff across the room. Not that she's very sane anyway, but it was enough of a difference for us all to notice and attribute it to menopause.
You may want to talk to your doctor about whether he thinks its menopausal. There may be something that can help. I hope you feel better.
-T
Posted by ClearSkies on January 28, 2006, at 23:45:15
In reply to Re: Unreasonable anger » TexasChic, posted by Berberis on January 27, 2006, at 12:34:33
Hi again. I'm bipolarII and preimenopausal. When my hormones go "off" - they seem to need some tweaking every 8 months or so - all my psychiatric symptoms improve somewhat. One supplement my gyn suggested was Evening Primrose Oil, which helps with many symptoms. Take it every day (at leat 500mg) and in a month or so you'll notice an improvement overall.
ClearSkies
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