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Posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 1:09:58
In reply to Re: Vagina » verne, posted by James K on January 13, 2006, at 23:12:43
To be fair James, let's include my follow-up explanation to the post you so lovingly borrow and quote. And, sarcasm doesn't work, when we notice it.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20051013/msgs/578816.html
Posted by muffled on January 14, 2006, at 1:40:34
In reply to My Response » James K, posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 1:09:58
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 14, 2006, at 2:52:01
In reply to Re: Previous Post » Gabbix2, posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 1:02:13
> Tom Cruise would probably say, "you complete me", but that kind of talk scares me.
>
> Verneyeah
I get it too
Posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:45:28
In reply to Vagina, posted by verne on January 13, 2006, at 22:05:55
http://judychicago.com/judychicago.php?p=dinnerparty1
I don't know how to do this nice linking thing, but here's a nice website for you.
Posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 7:48:49
In reply to Vagina, posted by verne on January 13, 2006, at 22:05:55
I think it is because women (at least some women) feel that they have been oppressed sexually for years, and have some issues with compulsiveness with new things or ideas (as many of us do).
In other words, it used to be okay for men to go to "stagg" parties and bachelor parties where women jumped out of cakes and stripped naked....but women had "showers" where they sat around and had punch and cake, discussing various recipes for meatloaf.
It seems that once the flood gates were opened and the sexually connotated activities of men became more acceptable or just plain "done" by women as well.......women seemed to run with the issue and perhaps got a little out of hand.
Now, having said that, and not so eloquently, I might add.........I must say this,
Is it really possible to make a vagina (or vulva as was mentioned previously) and have it actually look like what it is supposed to be portraying??? Booby cakes, easy. Penis cakes, easy.....but vagina/vulva???? seems kinda hard to me.
Although, I did make some Schwans chinese pot stickers for a New Years Eve party once. Everyone said they looked like little vaginas. I didn't see the resemblance, but who am I to judge.
Joan
Posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:50:01
In reply to Re: Vagina:Trigger Warning - artful vaginas, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:45:28
http://www.judychicago.com/judychicago.php?p=the_dinner_party8
Posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 7:55:01
In reply to more specific example of above, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:50:01
I guess it's not as hard as I thought to simulate an image of a vagina. However, it looks like it's full of pees.............(no pun intended)
Posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 8:00:11
In reply to Re: more specific example of above, posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 7:55:01
yeah, it does doesn't it? I guess they were on the menu?
every plate at her "dinner party" has a different "vagina"
Posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 8:04:28
In reply to Re: more specific example of above » Joan797, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 8:00:11
I guess that nixes the idea of "you've seen one, you've seen them all"
Posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 8:08:10
In reply to Re: more specific example of above » sleepygirl, posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 8:04:28
interesting thought considering (not to be too blunt) you kind of have to go out of your way (as a heterosexual woman anyway) to see them
Posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 8:17:16
In reply to Re: more specific example of above » Joan797, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 8:08:10
I have nothing more to say, I can't, I'm laughing so hard I think I need to go change my clothes..........
Posted by wildcard on January 14, 2006, at 9:45:49
In reply to Vagina, posted by verne on January 13, 2006, at 22:05:55
Posted by wildcard on January 14, 2006, at 9:53:17
In reply to more specific example of above, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:50:01
Posted by James K on January 14, 2006, at 10:33:59
In reply to My Response » James K, posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 1:09:58
I took the "is it a lifetime channel thing" and "what a double standard" as sarcastic or attacking. I've been wrong before.
It was interesting for me to possibly step outside of the civility guidelines. I experienced avoidance feelings that I had to deal with.
I got fired from my job for sending a weird letter to my insurance company. I'm contemplating doing the same thing with a jury summons. This experience has forced me to examine that behavior more closely.
I appologize to the community for taking someone's words out of context. I wouldn't want that to happen to me. It seemed funny at that minute.
James K
Posted by ed_uk on January 14, 2006, at 12:23:23
In reply to ...someone left the cake out in the rain... » verne, posted by James K on January 14, 2006, at 10:33:59
LOL
What did I miss?
Ed
Posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 12:33:43
In reply to Re: ...someone left the cake out in the rain..., posted by ed_uk on January 14, 2006, at 12:23:23
Posted by wildcard on January 14, 2006, at 13:11:17
In reply to PWD again, Sorry All (nm), posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 12:33:43
Posted by TexasChic on January 14, 2006, at 13:29:14
In reply to Re: Vagina » verne, posted by Joan797 on January 14, 2006, at 7:48:49
> I think it is because women (at least some women) feel that they have been oppressed sexually for years, and have some issues with compulsiveness with new things or ideas (as many of us do).
>
> In other words, it used to be okay for men to go to "stagg" parties and bachelor parties where women jumped out of cakes and stripped naked....but women had "showers" where they sat around and had punch and cake, discussing various recipes for meatloaf.
>
> It seems that once the flood gates were opened and the sexually connotated activities of men became more acceptable or just plain "done" by women as well.......women seemed to run with the issue and perhaps got a little out of hand.This is pretty much what I was going to say. Its reverse objectification. Its not neccessarily 'right', but I think its understandable. I think its womens way of striking out at being objectified for so long (not the penis cake itself, but reverse objectification in general).
I'm undecided as to how I feel about this. If men can do it, why shouldn't we? It is pretty liberating to turn the tables. And this behavior does seem to be releasing us from the shackles we've been in for so long. But if they were wrong in the first place, wouldn't we be wrong too?
And believe me, there are plenty of boob cakes out there. I think there would be more vagina ones except that it would probably be alot more difficult to create.
-T
Posted by Toph on January 14, 2006, at 15:08:52
In reply to Vagina, posted by verne on January 13, 2006, at 22:05:55
Hey Verne,
You've always seemed to be PB's conscience on gender descrimination issues. I've always appreciated your point of view.
Maybe they should only allow *ss cakes. We all have one of them. ; )
Posted by Tabitha on January 14, 2006, at 17:22:59
In reply to more specific example of above, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 7:50:01
Here's another from G. O'Keefe.
Posted by Phillipa on January 14, 2006, at 21:24:52
In reply to Re: more specific example of above » Joan797, posted by sleepygirl on January 14, 2006, at 8:08:10
Not if you worked in a hospital it's all you see also the penis. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on January 14, 2006, at 21:27:46
In reply to Re: ...someone left the cake out in the rain..., posted by ed_uk on January 14, 2006, at 12:23:23
Ed, see Wildcard's Birthday Thread. You're working too much! Love PJ O
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 14, 2006, at 21:59:17
In reply to Re: more specific example of above, posted by Tabitha on January 14, 2006, at 17:22:59
I love that. I used to have a print of it.
It's fascinating how nature repeats patterns.
Once you see that, you start seeing vulvas everywhere!
Posted by Tabitha on January 15, 2006, at 0:27:41
In reply to Re: more specific example of above » Tabitha, posted by Gabbix2 on January 14, 2006, at 21:59:17
> I love that. I used to have a print of it.
> It's fascinating how nature repeats patterns.
> Once you see that, you start seeing vulvas everywhere!Isn't that a beautiful painting? I had the red flower one on my office wall for a while. I think I was trying to make a feminist statement somehow in an office where every other guy had a swimsuit calendar. Maybe a Chippendale's calendar would have been a better comeback, but I don't think I could've tolerated the cheese factor.
Posted by James K on January 15, 2006, at 1:06:53
In reply to PWD again, Sorry All (nm), posted by verne on January 14, 2006, at 12:33:43
Verne and Gabbix2. I've reread this thread and I regret what I wrote. You were right to point things out to me. I don't like feeling like I'm in the wrong, so this is the best I can do to fix my bad feelings.
I'm sorry.
Verne, I couldn't tell you were drunk you write fine. I'm sorry you were feeling bad. I wish I had caught on to this before I joked at your expense. I may deserve my first PBC or block, I'm not even sure.
I'm trying to communicate better. This mirrors my behavior IRL. I hope you will give me another chance in the future.
James K
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