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Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:17:09
In reply to Re: So why aren't you? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 16:09:25
and put Larry Hoover together again!
And enroll him in a couple of classes.
Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20
In reply to Re: here I go again :-) » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 0:37:12
It sounds so very mysterious...
Posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2006, at 19:35:40
In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20
What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
Posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23
In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist?, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2006, at 19:35:40
> What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
good question...lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....
so lets see how close I can get lol
Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
Am I close?
Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 22:06:45
In reply to ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess?, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23
Posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 22:23:29
In reply to Show off! (nm) » LegWarmers, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 22:06:45
ROFLMAO
I really dont know lol
Posted by JenStar on January 2, 2006, at 23:07:34
In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20
I think it sound awesome! She could investigate the medicines used by tribal people, by the Chinese, the Japanese, the Mexicans, and see if there are things that could be used mainstream. Many cultures and peoples have used natural remedies for centuries, and these things are often discounted by the big drug and big pharma companies. At least, that's what I THINK she might do. Deneb, is that close?
JenStar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 23:51:09
In reply to So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men,, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:17:09
> and put Larry Hoover together again!
You're welcome to try. Maybe we could work it into your experimentation required for proper categorization, above?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060102/msgs/594435.html
> And enroll him in a couple of classes.
What classes do you think I need? <very tongue-in-cheek>
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58
In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20
> It sounds so very mysterious...
Once you hear it, it won't sound so mysterious.
Ethnobotany is the study of the use of plants by different cultures. Often, that is further restricted to medicinal use, i.e. folk medicine.
To incorporate the biochemical aspect, I wanted to look into finding something about the active ingredients, their structures, and biochemical effects in our bodies.
Truthfully, one could spend one's life studying a single plant species in some depth.
Once upon a time, 80% of all your drugs originated in plants. Now, it's dropped to maybe 50%. They are designing new substances on computers, etc.
The anti-bird flu drug, Theraflu, is made from a fairly rare plant material. With the burgeoning world demand for stockpiles of the antiviral, China has virtually extirpated the parent plant. Prices for the raw extracts have increased 20-fold. Anyway, I digress.
That what I wanted to get into, in the early 90's. Late 90's, major pharmaceutical companies funded extensive forays into various cultures, and bought up the rights to their knowledge. In some limited cases, the folk medicine has been further studied, but mostly it was to lock it up. To keep others from studying these plants (patented), publishing (same), profiting from, etc. To turn "common knowledge" into proprietary information.
The indiginous peoples got little in return. Mostly, they didn't even understand what the contracts were about.
Meanwhile, deforestation, and rapid climate change, and all that, are wiping out entire ecosystems, and all the mysteries and riches they once contained.
There you have it.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:03:54
In reply to ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess?, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23
> > What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
>
>
> good question...
>
> lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....
>
> so lets see how close I can get lol
> Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
> Am I close?Yes, that sounds about right.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:05:11
In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by JenStar on January 2, 2006, at 23:07:34
> I think it sound awesome! She could investigate the medicines used by tribal people, by the Chinese, the Japanese, the Mexicans, and see if there are things that could be used mainstream. Many cultures and peoples have used natural remedies for centuries, and these things are often discounted by the big drug and big pharma companies. At least, that's what I THINK she might do. Deneb, is that close?
> JenStarYou're right on target, but for key detail. Big pharma hasn't discounted these herbs, etc. They bought the rights, and they're sitting on them.
Lar
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:28:06
In reply to Re: So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men, » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 23:51:09
Obviously, you and your tongue would be subject to extensive preliminary testing before enrollment in the program. Only then could I exhaustedly determine how to properly test you, in order to establish how efficiently you could be utilized in my own personal testing of said categories.
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:36:55
In reply to nuh uh!!!! » crazy teresa, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 22:23:29
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:46:35
In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58
So you'd have to work for a greedy corporation. But you could still do it! You're too smart to not do it.
(Work your way up to a hostile take over so you could set the plants and info free, and change the name of the greedy corporation to Lar's Psychoceuticals, where of course, all testing would be handled by me.)
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 1:01:56
In reply to Re: as an ethnobotanical biochemist » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:46:35
After scrolling down, I can see you're changing your new profession to gynecology!
Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:55:49
In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58
> > It sounds so very mysterious...
>
> Once you hear it, it won't sound so mysterious.
>
> Ethnobotany is the study of the use of plants by different cultures. Often, that is further restricted to medicinal use, i.e. folk medicine.
>
> To incorporate the biochemical aspect, I wanted to look into finding something about the active ingredients, their structures, and biochemical effects in our bodies.
>
> Truthfully, one could spend one's life studying a single plant species in some depth.
>
> Once upon a time, 80% of all your drugs originated in plants. Now, it's dropped to maybe 50%. They are designing new substances on computers, etc.
>
> The anti-bird flu drug, Theraflu, is made from a fairly rare plant material. With the burgeoning world demand for stockpiles of the antiviral, China has virtually extirpated the parent plant. Prices for the raw extracts have increased 20-fold. Anyway, I digress.
>
> That what I wanted to get into, in the early 90's. Late 90's, major pharmaceutical companies funded extensive forays into various cultures, and bought up the rights to their knowledge. In some limited cases, the folk medicine has been further studied, but mostly it was to lock it up. To keep others from studying these plants (patented), publishing (same), profiting from, etc. To turn "common knowledge" into proprietary information.
>
> The indiginous peoples got little in return. Mostly, they didn't even understand what the contracts were about.
>
> Meanwhile, deforestation, and rapid climate change, and all that, are wiping out entire ecosystems, and all the mysteries and riches they once contained.
>
> There you have it.
>
> LarLarry, that sounds really interesting!
Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:57:39
In reply to Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » LegWarmers, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:03:54
> > > What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
> >
> >
> > good question...
> >
> > lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....
> >
> > so lets see how close I can get lol
> > Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
> > Am I close?
>
> Yes, that sounds about right.
>
> Lar:) but much more too it as I read.
Will you tell Crazy T I dont know what Im talking about ;)
Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:58:27
In reply to Told ya! (nm) » LegWarmers, posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:36:55
la la la la la I can't hear you ;)
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:07:16
In reply to Classes for Lar., posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:28:06
> Obviously, you and your tongue would be subject to extensive preliminary testing before enrollment in the program. Only then could I exhaustedly determine how to properly test you, in order to establish how efficiently you could be utilized in my own personal testing of said categories.
You ever had a charley-horse of the tongue? I have.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:08:44
In reply to Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » Larry Hoover, posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:57:39
> > > Am I close?
> >
> > Yes, that sounds about right.
> >
> > Lar
>
> :) but much more too it as I read.So, I filled in the details a little bit.
> Will you tell Crazy T I dont know what Im talking about ;)
>What if you do? Is that bad? Eh?
Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 11:16:52
In reply to Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » LegWarmers, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:08:44
> > > > Am I close?
> > >
> > > Yes, that sounds about right.
> > >
> > > Lar
> >
> > :) but much more too it as I read.
>
> So, I filled in the details a little bit.
>
> > Will you tell Crazy T I dont know what Im talking about ;)
> >
>
> What if you do? Is that bad? Eh?
>nah, I gues it wouldnt be :) ...
Its just a new awkward feeling I guess ;)
Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 11:17:14
In reply to Re: Classes for Lar. » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:07:16
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 16:40:10
In reply to Re: Classes for Lar. » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:07:16
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 16:59:47
In reply to Would you like another? (nm) » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 16:40:10
Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 21:28:31
In reply to LMAO! I like you (nm) » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 16:59:47
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