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Posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 18:50:18
In reply to Re: bitter pill, posted by linkadge on August 18, 2005, at 17:47:42
Hi Link,
>I think an example of that statement would be a homosexual person who pretends to be stright just
to make it easier for themselved socially.Do you do that?
~ed
Posted by Phillipa on August 18, 2005, at 20:51:06
In reply to Re: bitter pill » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 18:50:18
Ahhh How can you pretend? I once went to a gay bar in Cape Cod. The guys were all dancing together with their hands in each other's pockets. Down the street was a gay bar for women. They were all making cat calls and putting their fingers in their mouth to whistle loudly. Quite frankly, as i said before most of my friends were gay guys. They're the best. No competition like a woman would have with another woman. Much less stress. So i don't care how some people in society may feel each is entitled to his own. What you do behind closed doors is your business. Love PJ
Posted by Declan on August 19, 2005, at 1:56:19
In reply to Re: bitter pill » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on August 18, 2005, at 20:51:06
And honestly, people who worry about such things don't have enough to worry about. Everyone here is familiar with horrible stuff.
'Love others as I have loved you', isn't that it?
Declan
Posted by ed_uk on August 19, 2005, at 8:54:17
In reply to Re: bitter pill » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on August 18, 2005, at 20:51:06
Hi PJ!
>The guys were all dancing together with their hands in each other's pockets.
>They were all making cat calls and putting their fingers in their mouth to whistle loudly.Hehe, that's exactly the sort of thing I don't do!
~ed xx
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 19, 2005, at 11:15:51
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 12:55:30
If a cure was found for the "flaw" of homophobia
Posted by alexandra_k on August 19, 2005, at 22:01:22
In reply to I think we'd be better off » Maximus, posted by Gabbix2 on August 19, 2005, at 11:15:51
Hello Gabbi.
How are you doing???
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 20, 2005, at 15:02:34
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on August 19, 2005, at 22:01:22
> Hello Gabbi.
> How are you doing???Heyya! I'm okay ( or at least I think I am. Can you give me a moment?)
I'm glad you had a good holiday.
Have... not
....... had.....
coffee.... yet...
must... get coffee..
Posted by alexandra_k on August 20, 2005, at 15:28:09
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on August 20, 2005, at 15:02:34
> Have... not
> ....... had.....
> coffee.... yet...
> must... get coffee..:-)
heh heh.
have one for me too.
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 20, 2005, at 15:51:51
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on August 20, 2005, at 15:28:09
> :-)
> heh heh.
> have one for me too.
>
>I did, and I think you liked it very much.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 20, 2005, at 15:57:20
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on August 20, 2005, at 15:51:51
> I did, and I think you liked it very much.
LOL!
Thanks for that.
Its 8.55am and that makes it two cups of coffee already :-)How are you really, Gabbi???
There seems to be a lot of...
Bad feelings going around.
Or maybe its just me focusing on them to the exclusion of all else :-(Know any jokes or funny stories or anything?
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 14:28:13
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on August 20, 2005, at 15:57:20
> > I did, and I think you liked it very much.
>
> LOL!
> Thanks for that.
> Its 8.55am and that makes it two cups of coffee already :-)
>
> How are you really, Gabbi???
> There seems to be a lot of...
> Bad feelings going around.
> Or maybe its just me focusing on them to the exclusion of all else :-(
>
> Know any jokes or funny stories or anything?
>
>I'm okay.. I mean, I don't feel bad, Perhaps I've just done my time at Babble. I've also have seen a side to it in the past two months or so that hastened the feeling of distance.
Or maybe it's that over time the internet has started to feel like tail chasing, and I've just had my fill.
However, I DO have a profusion of funny stories, that are all true.And I will tell you one.
I just need coffee first. : )
Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:48:51
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 14:28:13
> I'm okay.. I mean, I don't feel bad, Perhaps I've just done my time at Babble. I've also have seen a side to it in the past two months or so that hastened the feeling of distance.
:-(
Babblemail me if you want to talk about it...
I didn't know about your self imposed block :-(
I find that after a time away...
It can be pretty hard to get back into the swing of it
To feel like part of things again
Its like one has to find ones place
What one was up to all over again
:-(
> Or maybe it's that over time the internet has started to feel like tail chasing, and I've just had my fill.Maybe...
I'll be sorry to lose you Gabbi :-(
But... If its best for you...
> However, I DO have a profusion of funny stories, that are all true.:-)
> And I will tell you one.
:-)
> I just need coffee first. : )me too!
i shall go and have one and check back
(so you better get your skates on)
;-)
i have therapy at 10.30... thats about an hour and a half away... i'm supposed to try and give her something... i don't want to go to therapy today :-(tell me a funny story
(when you get to it)
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 17:06:14
In reply to Re: I think we'd be better off » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 15:48:51
the feeling of distance.
>
> :-(
> Babblemail me if you want to talk about it...Thank you.
> I didn't know about your self imposed block :-(
> I find that after a time away...
> It can be pretty hard to get back into the swing of it
> To feel like part of things again
> Its like one has to find ones place
> What one was up to all over again
> :-(It's happened quite gradually so I don't think that was quite it, though probably some of it. It's not a conscious decision so we'll see what happens.
>
> > Or maybe it's that over time the internet has started to feel like tail chasing, and I've just had my fill.
>
> Maybe...
> I'll be sorry to lose you Gabbi :-(
Funny that huh? What an odd little connection we have :) I'll always leave my babblemail on, though, at the moment I'm not sure if it's working because of my having to re-register.
>> > I just need coffee first. : )
>
> me too!You know it's a fad here where I live that if you go into the hospital for psych reasons, or take a day program they only serve decaf.
It's ridiculous, and an effective way to make a suicidal person homicidal (though far too tired to act on it)Sorry about therapy, can you make something up?
That's what I used to do when I was little and I had to go to confession at church. : )
Okay here's one story, but I've posted it before, I don't think you've seen it tho'
If you have just let me know and I'll get another one from my reperatoireOkay
Years ago when my little sister was still in school she had a friend named Theresa, who had a brother in grade 6 and sometimes he wasn't all that quick.One day their mom was making lunches and she thought she'd do something different and make them hot dogs.
She wrapped a bun with cheese, mustard and ketchup seperately, and put the hot dog in the thermos with hot water so that it would keep warm while they were in class.
When Theresa's brother got home, the mom asked him how he liked his lunch. He said
"Well the bun was okay but the weiner soup was a little bland"
Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 17:15:43
In reply to Here you go » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 17:06:14
> What an odd little connection we have :)
:-)
> You know it's a fad here where I live that if you go into the hospital for psych reasons, or take a day program they only serve decaf.
Yeah. Ditto. There is a reason... People with anxiety disorders / panic attacks tend to have this terrible habit of drinking coffee / smoking cigarettes all day... They let ya smoke your cigarettes because nicotene is a psychotropic so best to factor typical levels into seeing how the prescribed psychotropics are going to interact. Even though ya tend to smoke more in hospital...
But with respect to coffee... I take my own. Or get someone to bring me in some. Put it in a different container if ya have to... Also... There is a coffee shop just up the hill so they quite like it that I really really really want to go for a bit of a walk ;-)
> Sorry about therapy, can you make something up?
> That's what I used to do when I was little and I had to go to confession at church. : )Yeah. talk a lot about nothing and don't give her the opportunity to ask any particular questions that might be hard... thats the plan. i think she lets me run for 15 minutes or so then the inevitable 'do you want to just chat about stuff this week, or do you want to go a little deeper'. Last week I said 'okay, a bit deeper'. Hope there is the same structure this week i'd be tempted to say
BACK OFF LADY
but 'chat' will probably be sufficient...
LOL! good story :-)
I hadn't heard it before.
sounds like something I'd do!
I have to go now...
working my way up to chat mode...
i will try and talk a little
but so fragile today
and i have to work work work
three days to finish this subject index...
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 18:15:12
In reply to Re: Here you go » Gabbix2, posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 17:15:43
>
> But with respect to coffee... I take my own. Or get someone to bring me in some. Put it in a different container if ya have to... Also... There is a coffee shop just up the hill so they quite like it that I really really really want to go for a bit of a walk ;-)That's so funny! I guess psych wards aren't all that different no matter where you are.
"Oh that's great that you're getting out for some fresh air, it will do you good"
"Well it will do me good, but it's not exactly the air">> Yeah. talk a lot about nothing and don't give her the opportunity to ask any particular questions that might be hard... thats the plan. i think she lets me run for 15 minutes or so then the inevitable 'do you want to just chat about stuff this week, or do you want to go a little deeper'. Last week I said 'okay, a bit deeper'. Hope there is the same structure this week i'd be tempted to say
>
> BACK OFF LADY
>
> but 'chat' will probably be sufficient...Here's hoping. Disclosing f*cks me right up..
I admire your attempt at trusting, I don't think I can do that anymore, or at least not with clinicians and not with men.
Posted by alexandra_k on August 21, 2005, at 19:05:05
In reply to Re: Here you go » alexandra_k, posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 18:15:12
> That's so funny! I guess psych wards aren't all that different no matter where you are.
Yeah, not so different. Though I remember your story about the hospital gowns :-( The psych ward here is fairly much okay with you wearing your own clothes. Risk of SI is the exception - but there you get hospital pj's. The pants are okay. The gowns are big shapeless dresses - but at least you get bums in 'em.
> "Oh that's great that you're getting out for some fresh air, it will do you good"
> "Well it will do me good, but it's not exactly the air":-)
I tell them I just want to go for coffee and they are okay with that. In fact... I usually manage to convince the OT that coffee will do ALL of us good (while I'm not allowed out on my own at any rate). It's nice because there is a ward fund for something like that... And usually only about 5 want to go.> Here's hoping. Disclosing f*cks me right up..
It went okay :-)
Deep sigh. Phew. Phew. I can't emphasise that enough. She just asked how my week was - and I said not so good. We actually talked about a lot of sh*t. A lot of sh*t. Most of the sh*t that had been worrying me. And... Unbelievably I don't really remember what she said... She's not so great at coming up with amazing things to say... But regardless, I felt a whole heap better.:-)
The biggest worry I was having is that I didn't feel like I was attaching to her. My heart is cold :-(
She said maybe I do that when I get scaired.
And I do believe... She might be right.
And I felt a lot better.
:-)So I guess that means I'm attached to her after all :-)
> I admire your attempt at trusting, I don't think I can do that anymore, or at least not with clinicians and not with men.
Thanks. Women are harder for me. A lot harder. I guess... I reckon that guys will leave. But women will HURT. Hmm. Little bits... Trust isn't all or none. Take a little risk... If it is well received then you can take those little risks more often, perhaps even working up to bigger risks.
Thanks for your Babblemail.
I'll have to respond later tonight or tomorrow.
But - I agree. Really, I do. I noticed that too.I have to do some work now.
I have a deadline.
I know I can do it :-)
But I better go get started before my mood blows different:-)
Posted by Maximus on August 21, 2005, at 19:19:07
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Maximus, posted by KaraS on August 16, 2005, at 2:46:02
Hi,
It seems that i have hurt some babblers in this thread. I'm sincerely but sincerely sorry for the people concerned. All my apologies...
Furthermore i will not contribute anymore to this thread. Period. It appears that i'm not very supportive. That's my feeling. Anyway, this is not my business and i don't want to change anybody. I just wish you to be happy (no pun).
However i maintain the right to be slightly homophobic. I maintain the right to have my own opinions on that topic because i just find it unnatural. Because that's me and just me.
Sincerely, Max.
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 21:42:24
In reply to My apologies..., posted by Maximus on August 21, 2005, at 19:19:07
>
> However i maintain the right to be slightly homophobic. I maintain the right to have my own opinions on that topic because i just find it unnatural.Is driving a car natural? " Wearing Glasses?" Getting drunk and finding "girls gone wild" Natural?
Is having surgery to save your life "Natural"
Besides, all animal species have homosexuality occur within them and you can't get much more natural than nature itself.
Posted by Declan on August 22, 2005, at 0:07:20
In reply to Re: My apologies..., posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 21:42:24
Natural or not, it's not neccessary for us to approve of each other. Isn't it enough to treat each other with common courtesy? Do you think other animal species are as weird about sex? Why us?
Declan
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 22, 2005, at 15:16:38
In reply to Re: My apologies... » Gabbix2, posted by Declan on August 22, 2005, at 0:07:20
> Natural or not, it's not neccessary for us to approve of each other. Isn't it enough to treat each other with common courtesy?
Absolutely, I think that's the answer. In my experience though it seems that a lot of people try to justify what is really nothing more than personal distaste, with reasons that are inconsistant, or have no basis in fact. You know, like saying "Immigrants are stealing all our jobs" as a justification for prejudice.
Sometimes you just don't like something, and I think that's fine, as long as you can keep it at that.
Posted by linkadge on August 22, 2005, at 16:57:56
In reply to Re: My apologies..., posted by Gabbix2 on August 21, 2005, at 21:42:24
"Besides, all animal species have homosexuality occur within them and you can't get much more natural than nature itself"
Thats true, I watched a special on Discovery about homosexual animals. It was kinda weird.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on August 22, 2005, at 17:03:05
In reply to My apologies..., posted by Maximus on August 21, 2005, at 19:19:07
Yeah, taking antidepressants is unnatural, our brain should work well without them.
I don't go around saying that you should't take AD's because it's unnatural.
And don't give me that "its not the way god designed it" nonsence because taking AD's is not the way god designed it either.Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on August 22, 2005, at 17:08:02
In reply to Re: bitter pill » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 18:50:18
>>I think an example of that statement would be a >>homosexual person who pretends to be stright >>just to make it easier for themselved socially.
>Do you do that?
In a sence, yes I do.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on August 22, 2005, at 17:33:09
In reply to Re: bitter pill, posted by linkadge on August 22, 2005, at 17:08:02
>In a sence, yes I do.
Me too sometimes.
I'm not 'obvious' though........ well, I guess I am..... if you've got good gaydar ;-)
~Ed
Posted by Declan on August 27, 2005, at 23:24:37
In reply to Re: bitter pill » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on August 22, 2005, at 17:33:09
A friendly type of the unnatural sort, hey Eddy, where have you been? I'm off to a party myself, very unusual for me.
Declan
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