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Posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:17:25
In reply to Re: All sexually capable, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 22:16:03
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa I got low libodo and it is permanent from ssri meds! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 22:19:46
In reply to Re: All sexually capable, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:17:25
> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa I got low libodo and it is permanent from ssri meds! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLI think we are witnessing a mental breakdown in progress here. LOL Don't worry flmm, if you take enough medications it will dull your brain enough that the hallucinations will go away. Eventually. I hope.
Posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:23:11
In reply to Re: All sexually capable, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 22:19:46
Waaaaaaaaaaa.... I got all the answers to the worlds problems and no-one will listen.WAAAAAAAAA..............
Oh yeah, I also got impotence from ssri meds and I can't find out any liturature on it because I dreamed it up! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:26:39
In reply to Re: All sexually capable, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:23:11
If anyone has a cure for "Persistent SSRI Impotence" please let me know. I am suffering from this imagined disease and I have it bad.
My name is Nez, and I am impotent.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........................
lol LOL lol LOL lol LOL lol
Posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 22:27:27
In reply to Re: All sexually capable, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:23:11
> Waaaaaaaaaaa.... I got all the answers to the worlds problems and no-one will listen.WAAAAAAAAA..............
> Oh yeah, I also got impotence from ssri meds and I can't find out any liturature on it because I dreamed it up! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......
> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLAs the delusional, paranoid schizophrenic cyber-stalker known as "flmm" runs screaming into the night...we now know for sure, that some people will *never* have a normal brain even *with* medications. LOL
Posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:27:53
In reply to SSRI impotence, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:26:39
He is you know! LOL
Posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:31:29
In reply to NEZ and Impotence, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:27:53
Hey, it was fun, but I am gonna have sex with my wife now. Good luck searching for your "cure" Nez..........
LOL
Posted by sleepygirl on July 2, 2005, at 22:34:01
In reply to Re: NEZ and Impotence, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:31:29
Posted by TomG on July 2, 2005, at 22:47:52
In reply to BSology, posted by TomG on July 2, 2005, at 18:30:00
I found it very amusing that Tom Cruise follows an ideaology whose very founder took psychiatric drugs (stimulants and 'downers') combined with alcohol to manufacture that very ideaology.
I would love to interview Cruise.
Tom
Posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 22:48:31
In reply to alas, the thread has turned into Jerry Springer... (nm), posted by sleepygirl on July 2, 2005, at 22:34:01
yup. well, we tried :-(
Poor Dr. Bob.
So many choices.
Where to start.
But an easy call, anyway.
see ya'later, sg :-)
Posted by thuso on July 2, 2005, at 22:58:31
In reply to Re: alas, the thread has turned into Jerry Springe » sleepygirl, posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 22:48:31
My gosh people! It doesn't take a genius to see that Nez and flmm have gone WAY overboard here. I really can't wait until Dr. Bob sees this thread and ends both of their bickering and teasing. I actually hope he deletes most of their comments. Those comments don't deserve to see the light of day. This thread is getting ridiculous!!!!
I'm almost at the point of saying it's gotten beyond Jerry Springer. My gosh!
Posted by gabbii on July 2, 2005, at 22:59:31
In reply to Re: alas, the thread has turned into Jerry Springe » sleepygirl, posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 22:48:31
It was a good try..
a noble try..
Posted by gabbii on July 2, 2005, at 23:07:22
In reply to SOMEONE MAKE THIS INSANITY STOP!!!!!, posted by thuso on July 2, 2005, at 22:58:31
> My gosh people! It doesn't take a genius to see that Nez and flmm have gone WAY overboard here. I really can't wait until Dr. Bob sees this thread and ends both of their bickering and teasing.
Yeah I know, I think FLMM is inadvertantly making a better spokesperson for the other side..
Posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 23:27:52
In reply to Re: alas, the thread has turned into Jerry Springe, posted by gabbii on July 2, 2005, at 22:59:31
Posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 23:36:16
In reply to SOMEONE MAKE THIS INSANITY STOP!!!!!, posted by thuso on July 2, 2005, at 22:58:31
> My gosh people! It doesn't take a genius to see that Nez and flmm have gone WAY overboard here. I really can't wait until Dr. Bob sees this thread and ends both of their bickering and teasing. I actually hope he deletes most of their comments. Those comments don't deserve to see the light of day. This thread is getting ridiculous!!!!
>
> I'm almost at the point of saying it's gotten beyond Jerry Springer. My gosh!
Feel your pain, thuso. I think they will find themselves politely excused once DB next makes a pass over this board...but I imagine the thread will stay until the board archives.Rarely are threads deleted - unless the poster posts while blocked. I think for one reason - it can help with understanding civility boundaries...with newbies, for example, if they can read through all kinds of *expressions* of opinions...and see at what point PBCs and/or blocks are issued...
Although in this case, well, never mind...
<sigh>
Posted by thuso on July 2, 2005, at 23:49:06
In reply to Re: SOMEONE MAKE THIS INSANITY STOP!!!!! » thuso, posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 23:36:16
> Rarely are threads deleted - unless the poster posts while blocked. I think for one reason - it can help with understanding civility boundaries...with newbies, for example, if they can read through all kinds of *expressions* of opinions...and see at what point PBCs and/or blocks are issued...
>
> Although in this case, well, never mind...
>
> <sigh>
>I definitley don't mean all of their posts in this thread, just the more recent ones where they both act like little children. It's those posts that really go overboard. I doubt you'll disagree, but we'll see what Dr. Bob does.
I wonder how long it will be until he gets on and sees this. Anyone want to take a guess? I'm guessing it won't be until tomorrow. It's starting to get late.
Posted by linkadge on July 3, 2005, at 2:37:04
In reply to Re: SOMEONE MAKE THIS INSANITY STOP!!!!! » 10derHeart, posted by thuso on July 2, 2005, at 23:49:06
I do not stand behind flmm's approach.
It is *our* responsability to weigh the pros and con's of our treatment on a daily basis. If there is one lesson to be learned from this page, it is that, to an extent, you must be your own doctor.
Patients need to understand the gravity and depth of the situation, and the treatment.
Aspirin can save lives, but it can also kill you.
I am not telling the families of the victom of aspirin death to keep quiet, and not tell their story. OTOH, I am not telling Bayer to halt sales of aspirin.
The pro's and con's must be continually weighted and counterballenced.
I am not angry in the least at Nevrov for coming an sharing his story, because without these accounts, the situation would be incompete.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on July 3, 2005, at 5:48:09
In reply to Re: No Comment Nezirov on Expertise Alternatives, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 18:48:04
Hi Nezirov,
>I have submitted a scientific paper with case reports on the persistence of sexual side effects after using SSRIs to a medical journal.
That's interesting, which journal? Do you think it will get published? Which sexual side effects persisted most frequently? How many case reports have you collected?
>When I initially got anxiety in 2001 (while working as a postdoc at a major medical university)........
Tell us more about yourself. Are you a chemist? Just a guess.
Kind regards
~Ed
Posted by TofuEmmy on July 3, 2005, at 8:22:25
In reply to NEZ and Impotence, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:27:53
Regardless of what sort of posts other people make,...you still can't disparage them without possibly getting PBC'd yourself.
It would really stink to get blocked due to commenting on their conversation, eh? It's simply not worth it.
em
Posted by SLS on July 3, 2005, at 9:42:26
In reply to Re: No Comment Nezirov on Expertise Alternatives, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 18:48:04
> Because I have been persoanlly effected by the inappropriate pushing of thsee drugs, I have submitted a scientific paper with case reports on the persistence of sexual side effects after using SSRIs to a medical journal.
> I believe that there are other peristent effects of these drugs that last long after discontinuance, such as apathy and some cognitive deficits. I haven't experienced those myself, but I have heard from many people who have.
It is manifest that exposure to antidepressants produces long lasting effects that persist for months and years after their discontinuation. This is why people often do not respond well to the same drug that they had taken previously. I don't care to theorize why, but this phenomenon is a common theme here. It is not a great leap of abstraction to acknowledge the possibility that what you propose here merits a closer look.
You would be surprised how open minded people on Psycho-Babble are. However, it is difficult to contend seriously with someone who fails to understand the biological nature of MDD and Bipolar Disorder. Manifest again is that these illnesses have biological components, many of which are self-perpetuating despite psychotherapeutic intervention. With modern technology, we now see the abnormalities in the morphology and physiological function of the brain in both trait and state of affective disorders. It is difficult to take seriously someone who has concluded that "chemical imbalances" don't exist to the degree estimated by epidemiologists without having studied the science behind the conclusions offered by modern psychiatry.
Keep an open mind and try to ask questions that are not rhetorical in nature. We will all learn more that way. Affective disorders are, unfortunately, biological. This is, of course, little more than my stating an opinion that is shared by many. Your opinion may differ. If you would like to debate the biological nature of Axis I disorders, feel free to. It will help reinforce many principles that lead to current opinion. You've got to be focused though, and try not to make global statements that do not address the details of the genesis of that opinion.
There is a difference between ethics and morality. I thought I'd just throw that in there.
Q: You previously stated the following: "As I've said before, some people do require these medications." Under what circumstances would these people require medications?
- Scott
Posted by SLS on July 3, 2005, at 9:55:36
In reply to Re: Com'on, please Nezirov and, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 22:02:11
I know how difficult it is sometimes to remain civil, but this site has become a very important resource for others on the Internet precisely because it is not an unmoderated forum for flaming, but, rather, a gathering of caring people discussing openly important issues with sophistication and positive energy. Every single member whose name I see on this thread has demonstrated these laudable attributes in the past.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk on July 3, 2005, at 10:10:07
In reply to Please - Let's display our usual laudable conduct., posted by SLS on July 3, 2005, at 9:55:36
Well said Scott :-)
Let's return to the discussion.
~Ed
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 3, 2005, at 11:41:42
In reply to Re: NEZ you have other problems, posted by Nezirov on July 2, 2005, at 19:13:49
> NEZ you have other problems
>
> flmm> When did you escape?
>
> NezirovPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. I've asked you to be civil before, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Susan47 on July 3, 2005, at 13:16:50
In reply to Re: Com'on, please Nezirov and, posted by flmm on July 2, 2005, at 22:04:29
Have you looked it up, by the way? In all it's meanings?
Posted by gabbii on July 3, 2005, at 13:18:24
In reply to hey gabbi...my new favorite spelling monitor ;-) (nm) » gabbii, posted by 10derHeart on July 2, 2005, at 23:27:52
Ya, well my own spelling is far from perfect, especially when I'm typing, I make homonym mistakes all the time when I'm posting for some reason. But there are just some words you really *ought* to double check.
On another board I saw someone post that she considered herself highly intellectuel, and I just thought.. oh man.. wipe out.
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