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Posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 5:51:06
I don't know if I'll ever be well again.
Posted by partlycloudy on March 23, 2005, at 6:57:03
In reply to I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 5:51:06
Oh, dear. What's going on, Dinah?
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2005, at 7:06:43
In reply to Re: I am just not well » Dinah, posted by partlycloudy on March 23, 2005, at 6:57:03
d...
ill put the tea on..
Posted by fallsfall on March 23, 2005, at 7:34:06
In reply to Re: I am just not well, posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2005, at 7:06:43
Posted by TofuEmmy on March 23, 2005, at 8:31:50
In reply to I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 5:51:06
Posted by sunny10 on March 23, 2005, at 9:02:00
In reply to Re: I am just not well, posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2005, at 7:06:43
write as much as you'd like, dear.
We are here to listen and support you as much as we are here to receive support ourselves...
It just happens to be your turn to receive instead of give...
I'm listening.....
Posted by Phil on March 23, 2005, at 9:26:18
In reply to I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 5:51:06
Dinah, For you:
Perfect faith "That man is perfect in faith who can come to God in the utter dearth of his feelings and desires, without a glow or aspiration, with the weight of low thoughts, and say to him: 'You are my refuge.'"
George MacDonald (1824-1905)
Phil
Posted by TofuEmmy on March 23, 2005, at 9:29:08
In reply to Re: I am just not well » Dinah, posted by Phil on March 23, 2005, at 9:26:18
Phil...and you think that's better than "pookie pie"??? ;-)
silly em
Posted by Phil on March 23, 2005, at 9:33:32
In reply to Re: I am just not well » Phil, posted by TofuEmmy on March 23, 2005, at 9:29:08
Actually, I vote for Pookie Pie but you beat me to it. :)
Posted by TamaraJ on March 23, 2005, at 9:36:34
In reply to I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 5:51:06
(((Dinah)))
You will, Dinah, you will. Try to have faith that as you start to get your health issues under control, you will be well again. It takes time, and that is frustrating. But, please don't give up or give in yet. Remember, "Our greatest glory is not in never falling down, but in rising every time we fall". You will rise again Dinah, please believe that.
Tamara
> I don't know if I'll ever be well again.
Posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 10:27:48
In reply to Re: I am just not well » Dinah, posted by TamaraJ on March 23, 2005, at 9:36:34
Tamara's right. I was feeling especially depressed last night after eating a perfectly normal size plate of meatballs and spaghetti and having it incapacitate me because of my diabetes.
It's hard to sort out how much of how incredibly crappy I'm feeling is diabetes related and how much is depression. But I just feel so bad and have felt so bad for so long that I don't remember feeling good.
Whine, whine. Sorry. :(
Phil, that was beautiful.
And Em, so was Pookie Pie.
Posted by TamaraJ on March 23, 2005, at 10:44:45
In reply to Re: I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 10:27:48
Dinah,
I know we have talked about diet and supplements on the Health board, but I am just wondering if you would be willing to try a couple of supplements that are supposed to be effective in regulating blood sugar. The two that I think may be useful are Taurine and chromium, both of which are said to help stabilize blood sugar. They both come in gelcap form, so they wouldn't not be difficult to swallow. Anyway, here is some information on both supplements. Take good care of you Dinah.
Benefits & uses of Taurine are:
Plays a role in decreasing the development of cataracts.
Useful in the management of chemical sensitivities as a powerful sulfur donor which removes foreign material & oxidized chlorine.
Useful with malabsorption of fats.
Important for proper bile production & fat metabolism, thus the ability to reduce body cholesterol.
For anxiety, agitation, hyperactivity.
For insomnia.
Depression.
Vegetarianism.
High blood pressure.
Certain heart iregularities.
Congestive heart failure.
***Diabetes, potentiates & improves the action of insulin.
Alcoholism.
Gallbladder disease.
Macular degeneration/retinitis pigmentosa.
Immune problems.Studies have shown chromium:
***Improves glucose tolerance (the ability of your body to remove sugar from your blood to nourish your cells) in both those who are diabetic & those with reactive hypoglycemia, thus stabilizing blood sugar levels.
Can increase HDL (the good fat) levels in your blood.
Can decrease blood levels of cholesterol.
Can increase energy levels.
Can help calm anxiety.
Athletes, the elderly, & those with blood sugar disorders may need the relatiely large dosage found in this product. Otherwise see the products Citrichrome or Glucostabil.
Tamara
Posted by fallsfall on March 23, 2005, at 11:52:31
In reply to Re: I am just not well, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 10:27:48
It gets so complicated, doesn't it? Is it the Diabetes or the Depression? Does one make the other worse? Does one keep you from effectively treating (or even managing) the other?
It is so frustrating to feel lousy - whatever the cause is.
Try to be kind to yourself. Take care of yourself as you are able (and don't beat yourself up about the care taking that doesn't happen). Give yourself space.
And recognize the moments that *are* good. 5 minutes of cuddling with a puppy. 10 minutes reading with your son. 15 minutes forgetting sleep. When I have my short (very short) bursts of "good", they remind me that I *am* still capable of "good". Sometimes it seems like I go months without any "good" time, but then I'll have minutes (or dare I even hope for hours?) that keep my hope alive.
The latest real funk I was in, I had pain all over my body from tension. I couldn't relax because I hurt. I couldn't stop hurting because I couldn't relax. Eventually, my doctor told me to walk - even though it hurt. And I was so desperate that I did. Just around the block - not a big commitment (though it seemed like a lot for me...). The dogs loved it. And I did a 20 minute Yoga tape. It really has made a difference. I'm not always good about doing them - it got cold and snowy and I didn't feel like walking - our schedules changed and the time I used to do the Yoga disappeared. But I try to pick them up when I can, or when the pain and tension starts to return.
Your "solutions" will be different. But maybe you can find a way to tip the balance and regain a bit of control. Control is a nice thing to have.
Also look at the other circumstances in your life, and recognize how they are affecting you. Your dad, the time of year, etc. Sometimes you just have to stumble through the hard times until you come out the other side. I believe you will stabilize - I have seen you grow in the last 2 years. Growth always ebbs and flows. It will get better again.
Until then, I have unlimited hugs, and we will always listen.
(((((Dinah)))))
Posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 12:35:40
In reply to Re: I am just not well » Dinah, posted by fallsfall on March 23, 2005, at 11:52:31
To just quit trying. Trying doesn't seem to be helping all that much anyway. To just go to bed and say I can't do it. Any of it.
I don't suppose I will.
But I wish I felt like it would make a difference that I don't.
Isch. I'm obviously in a bad mood. I think I'll go at least try to work. Or sleep. Something like that. I'm not fit company for man nor beast.
Posted by sunny10 on March 23, 2005, at 13:08:43
In reply to I just wonder what it would feel like to give up, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 12:35:40
Your last post sounded like you need a two week vacation from taking care of everybody else.
Maybe that's where the idea of "giving up" comes from.
Maybe that's not a bad idea- if you take it to be a warning to slow down from your subconscious.Does this "feel familiar"?
Posted by Bobby on March 23, 2005, at 13:34:02
In reply to I just wonder what it would feel like to give up, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 12:35:40
Hi Dinah,
A good sleep sounds good to me. Maybe you will see things differently after a nice rest. Sleep is a weapon. Hope you're feeling better soon friend.
Bobby
Posted by alexandra_k on March 23, 2005, at 14:11:57
In reply to I just wonder what it would feel like to give up, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 12:35:40
> To just quit trying. Trying doesn't seem to be helping all that much anyway. To just go to bed and say I can't do it. Any of it.
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> I don't suppose I will.
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> But I wish I felt like it would make a difference that I don't.
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> Isch. I'm obviously in a bad mood. I think I'll go at least try to work. Or sleep. Something like that. I'm not fit company for man nor beast.Wow. I thought I was the only one who felt like that... Sorry to see I'm not :-(
Take care of yourself.
Sounds like you need some care.
Hope you are feeling a bit better today.
(((Dinah)))
Posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 17:45:27
In reply to Re: I just wonder what it would feel like to give up » Dinah, posted by alexandra_k on March 23, 2005, at 14:11:57
I wish I could take care of myself. When I went into the office, I had a few phone calls asking where work was. I had to ask the secretary to return them with various estimates, because I was pretty sure I couldn't do it without crying.
The better news is that part of my unprofitable day was spent finding a diabetes monitor like the one I used to have. I hated the new one so much that I rarely tried, and when I did I just ended up crying in frustration. So as soon as I get some strips, I can start testing for the first time in months.
I've done more crying in the past week than I have in the past five years.
Some of those really violent and bizarre images are starting to come back. I called my therapist, but really what's the use. He can't (and didn't) help.
Posted by fallsfall on March 23, 2005, at 19:52:39
In reply to Re: (triggery), posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 17:45:27
I'm glad you got a new monitor. Hopefully that can help normalize your blood sugar. That was exactly the kind of thing I was talking about (like my walks and yoga). You took a step to gain some control over part of your situation. Hopefully that change will help to tip the scales in your favor.
That was a good proactive thing to do.
I'm hoping that it will help you feel a little better.
P.S. do you think this has anything to do with your anniversary???
Posted by Tamar on March 26, 2005, at 20:59:41
In reply to Re: (triggery), posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 17:45:27
Did you find the right kind of monitor? If you haven't tested your blood sugar for months you might find your insulin requirements have changed (or whatever method you use to control your diabetes). And some medications can alter blood sugar levels - might that be the case for you?
I know it's easy to neglect physical health when there are mental health issues to deal with. But the two go together, since diabetes complications tend to make people feel worse mentally. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you this!
Do look after yourself.
Tamar
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