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Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 21, 2005, at 23:26:59
In reply to hwo long can you go w/out sleep?, posted by smokeymadison on January 21, 2005, at 22:43:30
SM if one goes about...ABOUT 3 days with zero sleep they run the risk of psychosis....so youre ok you sleep often enough to not fear it..I hope you really wanted serious help on your question.
> just wondering. because:
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> Sat: none
> Mon: 3 hours
> Tues: 3 hours
> Wed: none
> Thurs: 5 hours
> tonight: ???
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> i am off of all my meds until tomorrow, and only then if the pregnancy test is not positive. i have severe anxiety (had a panic attack Thurs night). I heard a story about a radio annoucer who hallucinated and went psychotic when he didn't sleep for a week. i am wondering if it is a true story. he had permant terrible changes in his personality after that. maybe it is an urban myth, maybe not.
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> i have been in outpatient therapy for two days now and love it. but i am not thinking very clearly right now. it is hard to get the most out of it. i can't wait to get back to my meds if i am not pregnant. i take the test tomorrow. if i am i have to have an indepth discusion w/ the pdoc overseeing my outpatient therapy on Monday. because i have to be on something, i think. i really can't take this right now.
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> all my perfectionistic tendencies are coming back in full-blown form.
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> i have worked on my anger at my boyfriend the past two days and am not angry for the first time in a while. i am all about him right now. feeling in love, etc. i haven't felt this way for a while. it is very nice. but i should go lay down and try to sleep now. not sure if i am able. i certainly don't feel like it!
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> SM
Posted by alexandra_k on January 22, 2005, at 1:37:45
In reply to hwo long can you go w/out sleep?, posted by smokeymadison on January 21, 2005, at 22:43:30
Yeah, ok the radio guy was different because he really wanted to go to sleep but wouldn't let himself. Whereas you really want to get to sleep but are having trouble. You are getting a bit (not a lot to be sure) but a bit. What may be true as well is that you are spending more time *dozing* than you realise.
I remember how I felt in coming off Imovane / Zopiclone cold Turkey after being on 2 per night for around 7 years.
In the end I sort of gave up aiming for sleep and aimed for *relaxation* instead. I did progressive muscle relaxation and then focusing on my breathing mindfulness exercises just trying to focus on the slow breathing and let the racing thoughts just wash over me.
Not saying that this helped me get to sleep.
But it helped relax me through the process.
It really did take about a week before I got a proper nights sleep. A good 2 or 3 before I had regular sleep patterns again.You can do it.
You WILL NOT go nuts.
You are doing great.
Hang in there :-)
Posted by just plain jane on January 22, 2005, at 21:25:19
In reply to hwo long can you go w/out sleep?, posted by smokeymadison on January 21, 2005, at 22:43:30
Posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 8:32:29
In reply to on mescaline, 56 hours (nm) » smokeymadison, posted by just plain jane on January 22, 2005, at 21:25:19
Last time that I did 100+ hours, on full hypomanic throttle, was during Christmas break in 2003. Spent the whole time doing a gigantic oil painting of John Lennon. Sun went up. Sun went down. Sun went up. Sun went down. Couldn't have been more irrelevant to me. Finally stopped when I ran out of paint. Signed it, and finally fell asleep. Atticus
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 13:43:42
In reply to When really hypomanic, easily 100+ hours, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 8:32:29
I think I'm in love with you.
I'm trying to find the post you sent last night when you described the wind howling down First Avenue, I could see the cold hard streets and the wind showing itself right on the surface, blowing snow dust. You inside, safe and warm and listening, and watching, and being with your muse....
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 13:47:16
In reply to hwo long can you go w/out sleep?, posted by smokeymadison on January 21, 2005, at 22:43:30
Why lay down if you're not tired? Go until you're exhausted and you have to sleep, can you do that, I mean, get physical? Have a ton of sex, or something ...
Posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 13:58:22
In reply to Re: When really hypomanic, easily 100+ hours » Atticus, posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 13:43:42
Well, thanks, Susan. First Avenue in Manhattan is especially wide (one way, uptown), so usually I get a cacaphony of traffic sounds 24/7. Yesterday it was just this wind. Would've made a great shot for a movie, with the traffic lights all dancing like stoned chorus-line girls. You have to enjoy the snow here quick. Except in the Park, it doesn't stay white long. By tonight it will be mostly a pale charcoal color. By tomorrow, it will mostly be black, gray, and brownish-green slush, with hidden sink-hole-like puddles at some of the curbs that LOOK about three inches deep but are closer to ten -- as you discover when you step in them and the icy water swallows up your boots and then fills them. Always carry a spare set of socks in NYC in the winter if there's snow out and about. Ta. ;) Atticus
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 14:05:23
In reply to Re: When really hypomanic, easily 100+ hours » Susan47, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 13:58:22
Well, you really drowned that vision in a puddle of yuck.
You just made me very glad I'm not there.
We had a Pineapple Express roar through here early last week, and it was beautiful - a ton of warm air and heavy rains, it cleared the streets beautifully.
There's nothing worse in winter than that horrid grey cr*p hanging about forever. And the salt and the sand making everything putrid.
Posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 14:32:58
In reply to Ew. » Atticus, posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 14:05:23
Well, as I said, the half-life of the beauty of snow in NYC is very short. You learn to get your *ss out of your flat to take it all in as the snow comes down (provided the wind chill isn't too murderous). It can be quite romantic, the city at its most eerie and beautiful. Besides, in my neighborhood, there's a pub about every 10 feet. They even outnumber the Starbucks. You can always pop in for a nice shot of Bushmill's or some other fine Irish whiskey to brace you for the next stretch. I think, having lived here my whole live, I likely see beauty where out-of-towners may not. ;) Atticus
Posted by smokeymadison on January 23, 2005, at 15:57:04
In reply to When really hypomanic, easily 100+ hours, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 8:32:29
i found out yesterday that i was not pregnant. i promptly went out to a bar and got very dunk on two drinks (hadn't drank in a long time). i was so disappointed. then i rode the bus home and was like crap, now i can't take my Restoril to get to sleep! i got suicidual and thought of downing all the Klonopin and Restoril I have. so i called my psychiatrist and had him paged. he was so nice. he said that it was all right to take the Restoril, that even though I felt really drunk that my blood alcohol levels couldn't be that high. it still took me 4 hours after i took it to get to sleep, but at least i didn't go through w/ my plan. i actually slept ten hours! after this past week, that was so nice. i feel great today, actually. i went out and applied to work at 4 places. i am considering quiting the outpatient therapy and just getting back to work. i mean, the outpatient therapy is great, but it would require drivng two hours a day and i don't have car insurance right now. what good is therapy if i am going to get evicted in a month if i don't get back to work? on the other hand, i haven't worked since Oct. and we haven't been evicted yet so maybe two more weeks won't get us evicted. i don't know what to do. i need the therapy, yes, but i want to get back to work pronto. i can't tell if this good mood is going to last or not right now.
SM
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:10:39
In reply to Re: Ew. » Susan47, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 14:32:58
I see the beauty, and I hope and pray that some day I'll experience for myself.
My town is wayyyyy too small. A pub every few feet sounds ab fab, forgive the poor grammar, very tacky I know, but that's me ... I can be spotted a mile away on our streets. I'm the one who looks like an out-of-towner ... I'd be afraid to describe myself to anyone, it's something to see to be believed.
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:12:39
In reply to Re: Ew. » Atticus, posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:10:39
Omigod I just realized I described myself, and then I wondered after I posted, why did I do that? and I realized you're describing yourself every step of the way in every post, and there's lots I don't know but what I've chosen to remember is that you live in Manhattan (oh god what if I've misremembered??) and I'm jealous as all sh*t.
Posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:26:24
In reply to not pregnant=suicidal, depressed at first, posted by smokeymadison on January 23, 2005, at 15:57:04
It sounds to me like you're greatly relieved not to be pregnant, and I'm happy for you that you're not. You already knew that this wasn't a great time in your life to be starting on that path .. but having said that, remember that first pregnancy tests can also be false negatives, so if you don't get your period within a couple of weeks you may wish to take another test. Don't panic though, most likely you really aren't. I mean, the chances of it really happening when you were on the pill are so RARE! Your doctor told you the same thing didn't she?
Anyhoo what I'm only wanting to say is to keep positive, you're there right now, keep it close to your heart. Remember as many good thoughts and their feelings as you can, and keep them close, and remember your life is a reflection of your thoughts, it's true, it's really true, and the secret is keep the good thoughts, learn how to do that....I'm so happy for you.
Posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 20:07:48
In reply to Re: Ew. » Atticus, posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:10:39
I kind of know what you mean about standing out. Whenever I hop the train to the Jersey 'burbs to visit the sibs and/or my mom for a holiday like Christmas, I come lumbering in wearing my battered motorcycle jacket, Harley boots, jeans and a punk t-shirt, with my hair spiked up as usual. I look like a little bit of the Village transported to the land of McMansions. Everyone else in my family is into the Thurston Howell III prep look, and asks what I wear to work. Truth is, unless I'm going to be out and about in public working a media event for the university, pretty much the same thing. They're all lawyers, and can't fathom this. But I always deflect it with humor if possible, commenting on how at least one of us found a career where he/she didn't have to dress so funny. Ta. ;) Atticus
Posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 20:13:17
In reply to Psst, Atty, posted by Susan47 on January 23, 2005, at 18:12:39
Born and lived in Manhattan my whole life, luv. The rest of my clan has deserted for the Jersey burb-lands or upstate NY or Charlotte, NC. And there's one cousin in Minnesota. My brother and I are last of the line to still be living in the city where our extended family used to live mostly on the same street in Staten Island. Use to be nice having them there. I've always liked the idea of having so much family nearby -- at least in a city the size of NY, so you can lose 'em if they start working your last nerve. ;) Atticus
Posted by saw on January 24, 2005, at 1:52:30
In reply to Re: Ew. » Susan47, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 20:07:48
I watched a friend play and sing at local pub that we frequent. He takes to the "harder" stuff like ACDC, Nirvana probably Linkin Park and Korn aswell. And he is good. He is tall guy with broad shoulders and has long black hair worn loose. Beard and mustache too. For some reason, he reminded me of you. Perhaps it was the way he expressed himself through his music and the way you express yourself through your writing. But as I watched him play that night (was the night of my birthday), I thought of you.
Sabrina
Posted by Atticus on January 24, 2005, at 10:03:01
In reply to Re: Ew. » Atticus, posted by saw on January 24, 2005, at 1:52:30
Well, thanks, Sabrina. I hope you had a great birthday bash. You certainly had it coming after your recent struggle. I'm so glad you were still around to see it. Ta. ;) Atticus
Posted by Susan47 on January 24, 2005, at 13:30:02
In reply to Re: Ew. » Susan47, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 20:07:48
You have a motorcyle jacket, Atticus, but do you ride?
Posted by Angel Girl on January 25, 2005, at 18:03:56
In reply to When really hypomanic, easily 100+ hours, posted by Atticus on January 23, 2005, at 8:32:29
> Last time that I did 100+ hours, on full hypomanic throttle, was during Christmas break in 2003. Spent the whole time doing a gigantic oil painting of John Lennon. Sun went up. Sun went down. Sun went up. Sun went down. Couldn't have been more irrelevant to me. Finally stopped when I ran out of paint. Signed it, and finally fell asleep. Atticus
WOW Atticus, another Beatle fan on here. I didn't know you painted. How cool!!! :)AG
Posted by Susan47 on January 25, 2005, at 22:02:43
In reply to Re: Ew., posted by Susan47 on January 24, 2005, at 13:30:02
t mean to, I'm sorry, I really mean do you ride a motorcycle? Because I think that's the sexiest thing. So I just am asking a serious question, not trying to make you feel inadequate.... sheesh, Susan47, give it a Break.
Posted by sunny10 on January 26, 2005, at 9:48:26
In reply to Atticus, did I offend you because if I did I didn', posted by Susan47 on January 25, 2005, at 22:02:43
Right with ya, there, Susan47- knew my SO was the one when I saw his V-Max.....
Once again, are you SURE we're not the same person???!!!??? Maybe we share a brain and when I'm up you're down and when you're up, I'm down... not enough neurotransmitters in our shared brain, perhaps???
Yes, dears, you all know I'm kidding, but Susan47 does ALWAYS help me when I'm down, and I always try to help her when she's down... and we're so darn similar sometimes!!!
XOXOXOXOX, Suse!
Sunny10
Posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 10:22:25
In reply to Atticus, did I offend you because if I did I didn', posted by Susan47 on January 25, 2005, at 22:02:43
Not a bit of it. I did have a used Kawasaki. (Terrible starter on the thing -- practically had to wrench my leg out of its socket kick-starting it to get the g*ddamn engine to turn over.) Alas, it was wrecked -- along with a good portion of my left knee (only a slight limp now) -- on 421-N in North Carolina when an assh*le trucker ran me off the road for the hell of it. (Luckily the non-assh*le truckers stopped to call in help). Anyway, I'm taking a short break from Babble after all of this. I need a lie down. Back in about 4 weeks. Atticus
Posted by Susan47 on January 26, 2005, at 12:00:35
In reply to Re: Atticus, did I offend you because if I did I didn', posted by sunny10 on January 26, 2005, at 9:48:26
Sunny,
A big fat mwah kiss to you!!
Posted by Susan47 on January 26, 2005, at 12:01:40
In reply to Re: Atticus, did I offend you because if I did I didn' » Susan47, posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 10:22:25
I hope you can answer my babblemail, please please please. I'm hurt if you don't and I can't help feeling hurt about that.
I think it's getting harder for me to blow it off when people hurt me, hm.
Posted by Atticus on January 26, 2005, at 15:14:58
In reply to HELLO, hello, before you leave » Atticus, posted by Susan47 on January 26, 2005, at 12:01:40
I'll answer Babblemails. It's the site itself that I want nothing to do with at the moment. Ta. Atticus
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