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Posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 5:28:26
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by KaraS on August 20, 2004, at 0:32:04
> > > > > > Makes me ill!
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> > > > > I thought you were, already.
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> > > > > > The Republicans will do anything to win that election.
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> > > > > What election? :-p
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> > > > my neighborhood is pretty heavy with folks knocking on doors, petition in hand....i have found an easy solution to avoiding the FBI while still adding a signature to petitions: i just sign Larry Hoover, and nobody seems to bother me again. i even have a nice doormat out front, it is emblazoned ``Welcome to the Hoover's.'' if you're in the neighborhood, do stop by.......all the best, chemist :)
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> > > Thanks. I think I'll try that too.
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> > > What a riot you are!!
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> > excellent, kara! interpol will be baffled...you are down under, if i recall....keep up the good work, and be well, chemist (aka Larry Hoover, Austin, TX)
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> Nope, this Larry Hoover family lives in L.A. I can still baffle the FBI though. Maybe when they show up I'll introduce myself as Mrs. Hoover and I'll offer them some green tea laced with luvox, xanax and dexedrine!
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> As Larry might say, "Live well and prosper."
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> Kara
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well, L.A. is closer to Oz than Austin, so perhaps if get in a pinch, you'll step in? regardless, let's Hooverize the states anyway, just for fun.....all the best, chemist
Posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 5:30:50
In reply to Re: FBI has begun interrogating activists » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 20, 2004, at 0:38:42
> > > > > Makes me ill!
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> > > > I thought you were, already.
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> > > Exactly. That's what made me ill to begin with!
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> > The FBI? Careful now, or I'll send old J. Edgar after you.
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> > > > > The Republicans will do anything to win that election.
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> > > > What election? :-p
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> > Canadians had their election already. What other election (of any importance) is there?
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> > > Hmmm. And I thought I was spending too much time on Pscyho-Babble!
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> > You are, but what's that got to do with the FBI?
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> > > BTW, what does :-p stand for?
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> > It's a smiley version, me sticking my tongue out at you.
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> > ;-p I'm winking and sticking my tongue out at you.
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> > Lar
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> I didn't know you are a Cannuck (sp?). There is no other election that I can think of that is of any importance by comparison. What could effect the world more than the Canadian elections?
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> :-p (who thinks these things up???)
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> Oh, maybe it's Star Trek symbols.
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> Live well and prosper,
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> K
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kara, you mention in a post on the Alternative board about not understanding one of larry's sentences: i think it's the language barrier...eh? all the best, chemist
Posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 5:33:23
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by KaraS on August 20, 2004, at 0:47:50
> > > > my neighborhood is pretty heavy with folks knocking on doors, petition in hand....i have found an easy solution to avoiding the FBI while still adding a signature to petitions: i just sign Larry Hoover, and nobody seems to bother me again.
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> > > That's because my father is Herbert, and then there's my uncle, J. Edgar. You don't mess with us Hoovers.
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> > > > i even have a nice doormat out front, it is emblazoned ``Welcome to the Hoover's.'' if you're in the neighborhood, do stop by.......all the best, chemist :)
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> > > I may just do that, one day.
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> > > Lar
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> > always a welcome to all the Hoovers, just make sure your uncle's skirt and heels are properly matched, and don't clash with kara's outfit...perhaps a pantsuit? what do i know about fashion, anyway......cheers, chemist
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> OMG, Chemist, I laughed for 5 minutes straight on that one. I had been trying to think of a way to work J. Edgar's proclivities into a good response but you sure beat me to it!
> -Kara
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you should see Edgar all gussied-up and under the spell of Luvox, which has been known do induce dancing in certain Hoovers with whom we are acquianted: the genetic apple does not fall far from the tree, one hopes, and what a sight at those family reunions if one were to spike the punch with Luvox, eh? all the best, chemist
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 20, 2004, at 6:30:48
In reply to Re: FBI has begun interrogating activists » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 20, 2004, at 0:38:42
> I didn't know you are a Cannuck (sp?). There is no other election that I can think of that is of any importance by comparison. What could effect the world more than the Canadian elections?
Well, the outcome of a Canadian election affects the exchange rate, and y'all wanna keep getting Canadian goods and raw materials at a discount, dont'cha?
My dad actually is named Herbert, and he is an American, and he is related to the President of that name. My mom and dad are divorced, and when she was in Las Vegas, she went out to Lake Mead. On spying the dam, she declared "They've misnamed it. It shouldn't be Hoover Dam, it should be Dam Hoover, and Lake Me."
> :-p (who thinks these things up???)
I dunno, but they're useful to suggest the tone of your comments.
> Oh, maybe it's Star Trek symbols.
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> Live well and prosper,
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> KSorry to break the levity, but a serious aside was useful.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 20, 2004, at 6:32:08
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » Larry Hoover, posted by chemist on August 19, 2004, at 22:27:37
> always a welcome to all the Hoovers, just make sure your uncle's skirt and heels are properly matched, and don't clash with kara's outfit...perhaps a pantsuit? what do i know about fashion, anyway......cheers, chemist
LOL. Darn you, chemist! I went to bed, and you used my set up before I could get at it. VBG
Lar
Posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 9:01:44
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by Larry Hoover on August 20, 2004, at 6:32:08
> > always a welcome to all the Hoovers, just make sure your uncle's skirt and heels are properly matched, and don't clash with kara's outfit...perhaps a pantsuit? what do i know about fashion, anyway......cheers, chemist
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> LOL. Darn you, chemist! I went to bed, and you used my set up before I could get at it. VBG
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> Lar
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well, i'm pretty much out of new material, anyway....a two-week block, you know.....and very interesting in re: your relationship to a former president....learn something new every day, scientific or not, it would seem....all the best, chemist
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 20, 2004, at 11:57:10
In reply to Re: FBI has begun interrogating activists » Jai Narayan, posted by KaraS on August 19, 2004, at 16:44:59
> The Republicans will do anything to win that election.
Sorry to interrupt, but with this election approaching, I'd just like to ask everyone again, please be sensitive to the feelings of others and don't exaggerate or overgeneralize. Thanks!
Bob
Posted by Atticus on August 20, 2004, at 13:17:54
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Dr. Bob on August 20, 2004, at 11:57:10
Sorry to interrupt your interruption, Dr. Bob, but I think you've stepped over the line on this call. I don't think the use of such minor hyperbole constitutes being uncivil. In deference to your concern about language, I have self-censored all of my poems on the writing page from day one. But here, I honestly think you're laying down a standard that is so ludicrous that it has a stifling effect on robust political debate. It's not as if the post said, "All Republicans are fascist assh***s." I think a common-sense standard ought to be applied, and one person's opinion that the Republican Party (or Democratic Party, for that matter) appears to be behaving with excessive ruthlessness in order to win cannot, to my way of thinking, be construed as uncivil in any way, shape, or form. I think you might need to step back and think twice about this one. Atticus
Posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 16:54:42
In reply to my (easy) solution..., posted by chemist on August 19, 2004, at 20:13:22
to paraphrase Arlo:
And if 3, just 3 people a day call themselves Hoovers they may call it a movement....
And can you imagine 50 - I mean 50 people a day calling themselves Hoovers........
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 17:26:52
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 16:54:42
how did this post start out serious and get so silly?
It seems like two different threads.....I know you people having fun take this post and I will....
Posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 20:17:08
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 16:54:42
howdy mel! i am loathe to get embroiled in another situation that could lead to a block, as i am rather susceptible to PBCs/blocks, and do enjoy the back-and-forth...for the record, i'm going to apologize to Republicans and relatives of the Hoover family for anything i might have penned that is deemed uncivil by them or by dr. bob. further, fans of the late J. Edgar Hoover have my sincere apologies for any transgressions deemed offensive and/or uncivil in re: remarks concerning cross-dressing. yours, chemist
> to paraphrase Arlo:
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> And if 3, just 3 people a day call themselves Hoovers they may call it a movement....
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> And can you imagine 50 - I mean 50 people a day calling themselves Hoovers........
Posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 23:58:13
In reply to alas.... » AuntieMel, posted by chemist on August 20, 2004, at 20:17:08
That I was the one that mentioned cross dressing.
Besides, that is historical 'fact' so by it's very nature it has to be less offensive than having a closet cross dresser prying into *my* personal life.
Posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:00:35
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution..., posted by Jai Narayan on August 20, 2004, at 17:26:52
It is BECAUSE it is so serious that there is the need to poke fun. In my opinion, for whatever that's worth.
Posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:09:44
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » chemist, posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 16:54:42
Which one of you is down the road from me in Austin. This got so twisted I lost track....
Posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 0:57:37
In reply to Re: Wait, but I thought » chemist, posted by AuntieMel on August 20, 2004, at 23:58:13
um, okay.....i am somewhat lost here....my comments were in re: my post about J. Edgar Hoover......it's late, and i just spent way too much time on the meds board........until tomorrow, chemist
> That I was the one that mentioned cross dressing.
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> Besides, that is historical 'fact' so by it's very nature it has to be less offensive than having a closet cross dresser prying into *my* personal life.
Posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 0:59:47
In reply to I give up, please tell me, posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:09:44
> Which one of you is down the road from me in Austin. This got so twisted I lost track....
hello there, chemist here, in Austin, enjoying the T-storms as i write this. and you? all the best, chemist
Posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 1:33:03
In reply to Re: I give up, please tell me » AuntieMel, posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 0:59:47
I sure hope they make it down Chewston way. I love thunderstorms.
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 8:09:52
In reply to Re: my (easy) solution... » Jai Narayan, posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:00:35
> It is BECAUSE it is so serious that there is the need to poke fun. In my opinion, for whatever that's worth.
**Thank you for being honest AuntieMel.
I appreicate it because I have been really confused emotionally by this thread.
Okay, so what message does that give me?If I want to be serious and get some support I will get someone poking fun at me?
How would that work for you?
You may not know this but this making light of my serious concerns put a chill in my desire/need to post anything serious to this board.
This need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me?
Ouch
Posted by gardenergirl on August 21, 2004, at 8:56:41
In reply to need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me, posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 8:09:52
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 21, 2004, at 9:40:36
In reply to need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me, posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 8:09:52
> > It is BECAUSE it is so serious that there is the need to poke fun. In my opinion, for whatever that's worth.
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> **Thank you for being honest AuntieMel.
> I appreicate it because I have been really confused emotionally by this thread.Before I begin my reply, let me say that I am renouncing my prohibition against your posting to me. I'm tentative about that, just so you know.
> Okay, so what message does that give me?
The only one I intended is that I was making fun of my name, and the implied link to the FBI. Other people picked that up, and off we go. The message is, "We are having fun, over here."
> If I want to be serious and get some support I will get someone poking fun at me?
Your sub-thread retained its seriousness. There were serious replies. In hindsight, it might make sense to create a new thread entirely, for playful asides? That can be done easily, by pasting it into the "Start a new thread" box.
> How would that work for you?
One other aspect that you might consider is speaking up early on. Just a thought. I didn't know you were offended or hurt, until now. I'm sorry.
> You may not know this but this making light of my serious concerns put a chill in my desire/need to post anything serious to this board.Hopefully, talking about it now makes that less chilling.
> This need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me?
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> OuchIn hindsight, would owning your trigger sooner have prevented some of your emotional reaction? Would it have restored some sense of control over your environment, by being proactive, rather than reactive?
Lar
Posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 9:59:45
In reply to Re:Storms? » chemist, posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 1:33:03
> I sure hope they make it down Chewston way. I love thunderstorms.
mel, any more water out houston way brings y'all closer to bastrop.....you're sinking, you know......:) best, chemist
Posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 10:40:58
In reply to need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me, posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 8:09:52
hello jai, chemist here....we are not acquainted, and let me take a bit of time here....
first off, my heartfelt apologies for any bad vibes sent your way due to my posts.
second, no harm was intended, rather i was wandering through and jumped in for some levity with parties (larry and kara) with whom i have gone back-and-forth with on that note elsewhere in PB-land. that's all, no harm intended, just having a bit of fun with larry and kara, although i understand your original (serious) post was ``hijacked'' in short time.
finally, dr. bob did actually take issue with - and quoted - KaraS's response in re: something politically-biased, which was in fact a response to *your* initial and inaugural post on this thread: i was not reprimanded (specifically) for having some yuks with Larry Hoover's surname, making a very clear reference to J. Edgar Hoover's proclivity for cross-dressing, nor were Larry, KaraS, or AuntieMel singled-out (or you, for that matter) for the ``Hoover name-game,'' or digressions concerning where i live, and so forth (although you did not take part in the antics).
dr. bob's PBC was directed at a response ilicited by you, after all: dr. bob did not mention any topic (Hoover's name, where i/mel live in texas, the defensible truth about J. Edgar Hoover's trasvestism, other digressions) other than that which *you* did instigate, namely the upcoming national elections in the u.s.
in that i am now informed in re: your feelings about such goofiness entering into a thread you started with the intention of (please correct me if i am mistaken) inspiring a political repartee, i will make it a point not to jump in and be party to moving things off-track.
again, you do have my apologies and promise that i will be sensitive to your disposition in the future. all the best, chemist
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 11:23:05
In reply to Re: need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me » Jai Narayan, posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 10:40:58
AuntiMel,
I know that my discomfort came pretty late in the thread but sometimes I don't always know why I am bugged by a comment.What could I have said to get your support instead my seriousness going over the top.
I don't want you blocked I would like my communication to improve.
How could I have gotten your support?
what could I have said?once again I appreciate that you were honest. because this issue is a trigger for me I would like to understand how my communciation contributes to this type of outcome?
Thank you Larry Hoover and Chemist and the hug from gardengirl.
I appreciate you comments.
Posted by chemist on August 21, 2004, at 11:38:49
In reply to Aunti Mel can you work with me on this?, posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 11:23:05
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 21, 2004, at 12:07:08
In reply to Re: need to poke fun is a **trigger** for me » Jai Narayan, posted by Larry Hoover on August 21, 2004, at 9:40:36
> Before I begin my reply, let me say that I am renouncing my prohibition against your posting to me. I'm tentative about that, just so you know.
>
**Thanks Larry, it's such a relief to say your name again. I understand the tentativeness of your prohibition. Accepted.> Your sub-thread retained its seriousness. There were serious replies. In hindsight, it might make sense to create a new thread entirely, for playful asides? That can be done easily, by pasting it into the "Start a new thread" box.
**I didn't know that. It sounds so easy.
> One other aspect that you might consider is speaking up early on. Just a thought. I didn't know you were offended or hurt, until now. I'm sorry.**I can see that now but I was too hurt to do anything at first. I was going to just stop posting....but that never works for me.
> Hopefully, talking about it now makes that less chilling.**yes I feel so much better now.
> In hindsight, would owning your trigger sooner have prevented some of your emotional reaction? Would it have restored some sense of control over your environment, by being proactive, rather than reactive?
***funny thing about not being on top of my feelings is I am not on top of my emotions.
But you are right and it took all of this to help me see what I could have done.thanks Larry
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