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Posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 16:24:06
I didn't want to interrupt the beauty thread anymore than I already have..
Well I had my appointment, and I said to my new PDoc "I get the feeling that you think I've abused stimulants and that's why you won't prescribe them for me"
She said "Well you have" And I said "No I've never ever abused my medication where did you get that idea from?"..(this woman has seen me twice)
No answer.
I brought my file- thank goodness- from my previous PDoc. R. It showed 7 years of stimulant use with beneficial results..
Grasping at straws she tried to pick out a part from that file where it said I had
some Character(aspects to my depressionI asked what that had to do with my medication especially since an personality disorders had been taken out of my diagnosis after my 3rd interview with him.
Anyway.. the upshot was, she had simply decided I was an abuser. Perhaps she thought she'd heard it somewhere? Perhaps we're all abusers unless proven otherwise? Finally I laughed and said "Look at this baby skin, if I was drug abuser don't you think I'd have a few lines???
I got my medication. Not Provigil, but Dexedrine,
Dexedrine is just fine with me, I'd only asked for the Provigil originally because I thought I'd have a better chance of getting it, seeing she seemed so anti-stim from the get go, but Dexedrine has worked just as well for me in the past.Thanks for caring you guys.
Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2004, at 16:30:55
In reply to Thank you Dinah, Pegasus!, posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 16:24:06
I'm so happy I could cry.
I am soooo thrilled that you stood up for yourself, and were composed and rational!
And why do I get the docs who want to push more drugs on me than I want? Stimulants, benzodiazapines, even narcotics. They get positively irate that I won't take as many as they want to give me. They must make some sort of judgement that I can't *possibly* be an abuser. Or that I'm obviously in need of something serious.
And then there are so many doctors on the other end of the spectrum. It's baffling.
I'm so happy for you Gabbi. :)
With all my customary fondness,
Dinah
Posted by TexasChic on July 19, 2004, at 17:00:50
In reply to Thank you Dinah, Pegasus!, posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 16:24:06
I've had a doctor before that thought I was an abuser. Believe me, its a no win situation. I went through several different med changes when all I needed was some Xanax to supplement my Prozac. But no-o-o-o-o! Xanax is addictive. (Yes, I'm a little bitter).
I got a new doc and now take Xanax on an as needed basis, with no trouble at all. I hope yours turns out to be better than mine was. I hated that she made me feel ashamed for wanting a medicine I needed.
Posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 17:11:13
In reply to Re: Docs » gabbix2, posted by TexasChic on July 19, 2004, at 17:00:50
> I got a new doc and now take Xanax on an as needed basis, with no trouble at all. I hope yours turns out to be better than mine was. I hated that she made me feel ashamed for wanting a medicine I needed.
That's it isn't it! Being made to feel like a criminal because "HORRORS" you want to feel like you can get through the day.. and "GASP" maybe even enjoy something.. There aren't words.
It's apalling. Disgusting.I'm so fortunate I have a former P.Doc who knows how much influence he has, He's practically famous in Canada and he goes to bat for me, with my less educated Doctors.
But if it weren't for his validation I'd still be seen as something that crawled out from under a rock,simply for wanting to have as much of a normal life as I can.
My heart just aches for people who don't have someone like him, or people who are intimidated or can't articulate what they need. I'm so glad we have the internet where we can help empower each other.
Posted by pegasus on July 19, 2004, at 17:29:20
In reply to Thank you Dinah, Pegasus!, posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 16:24:06
And what a loser doc! At least she gave you the prescription in the end.
And good for you for standing up for yourself like that and being so clear. It sounds like it went really well. I hope it taught the doctor something about assumptions, too.
pegasus
Posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 17:37:53
In reply to I'm so *glad* for you! » gabbix2, posted by pegasus on July 19, 2004, at 17:29:20
Thank you, I think I may indeed have taught her something. One more little aside. (She is a loser)
I have zyprexa which I'm only supposed to take for EXTREME anxiety. Apparently last script she decided I was to take it every day, but didn't tell me. I would never take it every day anyway.
I told her today I didn't need the script for it as I had lots left, and told her why. She said well you were supposed to take it every day.
I explained the mistake, as I was under the impresion I was to take it in emergencies as I always have. She said "See you are MANIPULATING"
"No I said, If I were manipulating I wouldn't have told you, this was a MISTAKE"As I left I asked for my files back and she said "Oh I already gave them to you" I said "No I don't have them" "yes you do" "No I don't"
"Oh, sorry", she said I do have them.I said "Are you sure that you weren't
being manipulative?"
She had the good grace to laugh, loudly.Anyway, enough of me.
I tend to make up for lost time when I've been anti-social for a while.Thanks again for your good wishes.
Posted by AuntieMel on July 19, 2004, at 18:03:21
In reply to Re: Docs » gabbix2, posted by TexasChic on July 19, 2004, at 17:00:50
Mine won't give me anything, even though I have extreme anxiety. Fear of abuse.
Rock and a hard place - I was a serious alcohol abuser for a long time. Haven't touched it in over a year. But he says that makes me a "bad risk"
I've had presciptions for controlled substnces before (I break easily), but have never abused any of them. I usually end up with extra.
Go figure.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 19, 2004, at 18:30:05
In reply to Re: Docs » TexasChic, posted by AuntieMel on July 19, 2004, at 18:03:21
Gabbi,
I'm so happy for you and impressed at how you stuck to your guns. That had to take strength, patience, and calm. Great, great, great for you! And it sounds like you had to go more than a few rounds before it was over. Yea Gabbi!gg
Posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 19:05:46
In reply to Re: Docs, posted by gardenergirl on July 19, 2004, at 18:30:05
Thank you Thank you Gardner Girl!
I did have to go a few rounds, sometimes it helps me to think that if I shake up their assumptions about me, maybe they'll not be so quick to judge someone else.
Posted by tabitha on July 20, 2004, at 0:28:37
In reply to Thank you Dinah, Pegasus!, posted by gabbix2 on July 19, 2004, at 16:24:06
Way to go Gabs! Standing up to a doc, and being clever enough to bring in your charts-- way to work the system!
I hope the dexedrine works for you.
Posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:09:26
In reply to Re: Hooray!!!! » gabbix2, posted by Dinah on July 19, 2004, at 16:30:55
That is fantastic you were able to stand up to your p-doc and get what you really needed. What a reminder to us all that our p-docs are humans too and subject to prejudices and not always as objective as we expect them to be. Way to go!!!!
Posted by gabbix2 on July 20, 2004, at 12:10:57
In reply to Re: Hooray!!!!, posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 7:09:26
Thanks for being happy for me, it meant so much.
I have some nice friends in real life, but there just is no place, no place where I can yell "I GOT MY MEDICATION!" where people wouldn't seriously wonder about me :[
Now for the sobering aftermath... My apartment is a wreck --All that depression induced laundry.. dishes, vacuuming frige cleaning-- Guess what I'll be doing today?
Posted by partlycloudy on July 20, 2004, at 12:30:07
In reply to Thank you so much, everyone, posted by gabbix2 on July 20, 2004, at 12:10:57
Welcome to my life last Saturday - 7 loads of laundry and there are only two people living in this house. Don't do too much, now! Pace yourself :)
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