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Posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
OK, so we get the United Charity Campaign books every year, that let's us contribute a portion of our paycheck to a charity of our choice.
So pick for me:
1. UNICEF
2. Partnership for Animal Welfare (my current one, and one which I volunteer for on occasion, but they are getting all politically weird and there seems to be a lot of infighting)
3. University of Baltimore School of Law (LOL!)
4. Chesapeake Bay Foundation
5. Maryland Public Broadcasting
6. Maryland Food BankYour vote counts! I'll do whatever you guys say I should.....
BTW, it's not like it's a lot of $$ or anything.
Thanks!
Susan
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2003, at 15:05:31
In reply to Mindless Question , posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
> OK, so we get the United Charity Campaign books every year, that let's us contribute a portion of our paycheck to a charity of our choice.
>
> So pick for me:
>
> 1. UNICEF
> 2. Partnership for Animal Welfare (my current one, and one which I volunteer for on occasion, but they are getting all politically weird and there seems to be a lot of infighting)
> 3. University of Baltimore School of Law (LOL!)
> 4. Chesapeake Bay Foundation
> 5. Maryland Public Broadcasting
> 6. Maryland Food Bank
>
> Your vote counts! I'll do whatever you guys say I should.....
>
> BTW, it's not like it's a lot of $$ or anything.
>
> Thanks!
>
> SusanFood bank. Hands down. I've been there (food bank). Done that. Got the t-shirt.
Starving ain't pretty. It becomes an all-encompassing focus of existence. Forget anything else. No person should ever go hungry in a land of such plenty. But it happens every day. Even to people like me.
Lar
Posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 15:09:25
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2003, at 15:05:31
That makes me sad, Lar. :-(
Susan
Posted by Penny on November 21, 2003, at 15:15:35
In reply to Mindless Question , posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
I'll second the foodbank vote. It's unacceptable that there are people in our country, one of the wealthiest in the world, who don't have enough to eat.
P
Posted by lil' jimi on November 21, 2003, at 15:39:23
In reply to Re: Mindless Question » Susan J, posted by Penny on November 21, 2003, at 15:15:35
i third it ... ...
... ... ha!but Food Bank all the way ...
they serve the neediest ...~ jim
Posted by Poet on November 21, 2003, at 15:40:33
In reply to Mindless Question , posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
Hi Susan,
This is a tough one for me. My vote depends on the finances of the organization: if it's struggling my vote goes to it.
Feeding the poor is important, but if there's another charity that needs financial help I would want to help it.
I have heard of the Chesapeake Bay Foundation (even though I'm half way across the country from it.)
Before everyone gasps and says she'd rather save marine life than hungry families-what a horrible person. Here is my reasoning. I work for a non-profit program that provides free medical care and education for teen mothers and their children.Even though people love to help kids in need, many draw the line at "girls who shouldn't be having babies or sex anyway." We are struggling to survive and so personally I would help the charity that most needs the money to keep on going.
If Chesapeake is rolling in funds, then I change my vote to the Food Bank.
Poet
Posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 16:06:47
In reply to Re: Mindless Question » Susan J, posted by Poet on November 21, 2003, at 15:40:33
I dunno the answer to this one. I check to see how much of my donation goes to actually helping people/their mission. I don't like too much overhead costs, although I know some are necessary.
The Chesapeake Bay is in bad shape. It does need help.
Actually, I really care about all the charities I've listed (could choose from 100s), so I guess I am really leaving it up to this scientific poll. :-) I have a hard time choosing among them, and can't really afford to give to all of them....
Thanks for everyone's input so far. :-)
Susan
Posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 16:36:45
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2003, at 15:05:31
Well, I'm inclined to agree with Lar that food may win, but IMO it's a tight runner up with the animal folks--cos we can say we're hungry, but animals can't speak.
Somebody attributed a quote to Abe Lincoln that 'you can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.' I don't know who said it, but I am a devout believer.
Can you contribute to both?
Shar
Posted by karen_kay on November 21, 2003, at 16:42:51
In reply to Re: Mindless Question » Susan J, posted by Poet on November 21, 2003, at 15:40:33
What about donating some canned goods you have at home to your local food bank or donating time or both? And then donating some cash to Chesapeake Bay. Is this a possibility? If not, then I go with the food bank.
Karen
Posted by Jai on November 21, 2003, at 16:48:10
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2003, at 15:05:31
> Food bank. Hands down. I've been there (food bank). Done that. Got the t-shirt.
>
> Starving ain't pretty. It becomes an all-encompassing focus of existence. Forget anything else. No person should ever go hungry in a land of such plenty. But it happens every day. Even to people like me.
>
> Lar
When I was in school and working 3 jobs I too had very little money and was hungry. I remember being so sad about being hungry...no organization around at that time. I'm kind of old. So I got real thin and nervous living on coffee (it was cheep). I think it's a crime to have people hungry in our country...So I agree with you about this problem. Jai
Posted by jay on November 21, 2003, at 18:56:46
In reply to Re: mindful answer-Susan, posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 16:36:45
> Well, I'm inclined to agree with Lar that food may win, but IMO it's a tight runner up with the animal folks--cos we can say we're hungry, but animals can't speak.
>
>
>Well, animals have PETA....where is PETH? (People For The Ethical Treatment Of Humans) You get great people like Bono trying to get help for millions of people being killed mercilessly of AIDS, starvation, war, famine, in Africa, and then you get Paul McCartney(sp?) protesting Kentucky Fried Chicken! Sorry...but let's get *real* here!
Jay
Posted by jay on November 21, 2003, at 19:00:03
In reply to Mindless Question , posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
Posted by octopusprime on November 21, 2003, at 21:45:34
In reply to Re: mindful answer-Susan » shar, posted by jay on November 21, 2003, at 18:56:46
i'm going to tender my vote for public broadcasting.
as a canadian, i find it confusing and sad that there is no commercial-free public radio in the states. here, cbc radio is commercial-free and doesn't have to beg for pledges or give time to its sponsors. and it's operated at arm's length for the government, so it's always giving the government a good boot in the behind.
raise the level of public discourse! support your public broadcasters! keep democracy and free will alive!
yeah the other charities are good too but i want to vote for this before it's too late.
Posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 22:15:55
In reply to Re: mindful answer-Susan » shar, posted by jay on November 21, 2003, at 18:56:46
Iz true Lar. But where do you think PETA funds come from? When I was a Tx state employee, PETA was not even on the list. But, I could give to the local animal shelter.
To me, it's rarely either/or. If we survive at the expense of irresponsibly un-neutered or un-spayed dogs or cats (who die by the thousands daily and are the subjects of my OWN profession's horrific treatment and experimentation), where does that leave us? Or, what does that make us?
More rhetorical than anything else.........
Shar
> > Well, I'm inclined to agree with Lar that food may win, but IMO it's a tight runner up with the animal folks--cos we can say we're hungry, but animals can't speak.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Well, animals have PETA....where is PETH? (People For The Ethical Treatment Of Humans) You get great people like Bono trying to get help for millions of people being killed mercilessly of AIDS, starvation, war, famine, in Africa, and then you get Paul McCartney(sp?) protesting Kentucky Fried Chicken! Sorry...but let's get *real* here!
>
> Jay
Posted by Elle2021 on November 22, 2003, at 3:37:47
In reply to Mindless Question , posted by Susan J on November 21, 2003, at 14:35:03
Maryland Food Bank is my vote.
Elle
Posted by Elle2021 on November 22, 2003, at 3:39:54
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on November 21, 2003, at 15:05:31
Larry,
That makes me really sad to think that you might be hungry or starving. I wish there was some way I could help you. I hope you are okay and doing well. God bless you.
Elle
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2003, at 4:55:26
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Larry Hoover, posted by Elle2021 on November 22, 2003, at 3:39:54
> Larry,
> That makes me really sad to think that you might be hungry or starving. I wish there was some way I could help you. I hope you are okay and doing well. God bless you.
> ElleI'm sorry if my post was unclear....that happened. It isn't happening any longer.
Thanks for your concern.
Lar
Posted by Elle2021 on November 22, 2003, at 6:11:17
In reply to Re: mindful answer » Elle2021, posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2003, at 4:55:26
Your welcome Lar, I'm glad to hear your doing well. :)
Elle> I'm sorry if my post was unclear....that happened. It isn't happening any longer.
>
> Thanks for your concern.
>
> Lar
Posted by jay on November 22, 2003, at 9:54:10
In reply to Re: mindful answer-Susan » jay, posted by shar on November 21, 2003, at 22:15:55
Ya, I know what you mean, shar...and I am sorry if I came across in a hostile manner in my post. It's just this is an issue that came up with me lately, as a friend of mine is very actively involved in PETA. I am not against what they do, and believe me I love animals as much as humans (my dog is like my little child to me!).
Believe me...I think it is very inhumane with keeping beautiful sea cratures locked in small tubs for human 'entertainment'...and the way they slaughter dolphins because it is considered a 'delicacy'.
I agree with you...there is a dire ethical need for both issues. I guess my faith in humans has dwindled, because I feel it seems to take such a long time for us to stop hurting, killing, each other as well as animals.
Anyhow...thanks for the good post..
Jay
Posted by karen_kay on November 23, 2003, at 13:08:38
In reply to public broadcasting, posted by octopusprime on November 21, 2003, at 21:45:34
>> as a canadian, i find it confusing and sad that there is no commercial-free public radio in the states.
There is commercial free public radio in the states!! NPR national public radio... I didn't know about it until I started tcom classes at the university and was forced to take radio shifts. NPR is mostly played on your local college radio stations and has NO commercials, only underwriting, which means public service announcements. My fav program is Prarie Home Companion! And the music played on most public radio (depending on the town) is a whole lot better than commercial radio. That is a good choice for a charitable contribution!!
Karen
Posted by octopusprime on November 23, 2003, at 13:45:38
In reply to Re: public broadcasting, posted by karen_kay on November 23, 2003, at 13:08:38
> >> as a canadian, i find it confusing and sad that there is no commercial-free public radio in the states.
>
> There is commercial free public radio in the states!! NPR national public radio...Karen, I've listened to NPR before. (I can listen over the internet, and in places I can listen when I'm near the border)
It seems to me 5 minutes of every hour on NPR is begging for money, taking pledge breaks, and acknowledging sponsors.
You don't hear that on CBC radio in Canada - you get 60 minutes of every hour of programming, and no annoying non-commercials that sound like commercials to the Canadian ear.
I haven't listened to NPR enough to see if there's sizable local content, but I also think NPR does not cover regional happenings as well as CBC radio does in Canada. I know that in my province, at least 6 hours of content every weekday is locally produced in my province (and even then, there are several different regional variations within the province), and dedicated to local events. I think this kind of public service is invaluable - the radio covers the mayor, local council, and provincial government much better than the local rags (er, newspapers).
Please give NPR money! It's sad that NPR begs :(
Posted by karen_kay on November 23, 2003, at 14:00:57
In reply to Re: public broadcasting » karen_kay, posted by octopusprime on November 23, 2003, at 13:45:38
> Karen, I've listened to NPR before. (I can listen over the internet, and in places I can listen when I'm near the border)
>
> It seems to me 5 minutes of every hour on NPR is begging for money, taking pledge breaks, and acknowledging sponsors.<<This is very true... sad, but true.
> You don't hear that on CBC radio in Canada - you get 60 minutes of every hour of programming, and no annoying non-commercials that sound like commercials to the Canadian ear.<<I have not listened to CBC. Maybe I should.
> I haven't listened to NPR enough to see if there's sizable local content, but I also think NPR does not cover regional happenings as well as CBC radio does in Canada. I know that in my province, at least 6 hours of content every weekday is locally produced in my province (and even then, there are several different regional variations within the province), and dedicated to local events. I think this kind of public service is invaluable - the radio covers the mayor, local council, and provincial government much better than the local rags (er, newspapers).
>>>I know that our radio stations at the university had a large content devoted to regional news coverage. The students, as well as hired staff, were responsible for gathering, editing and reporting the local news. We even covered the local elections. I learned a lot, even though I'm not interested in radio. AP took care of national news. I thought that we did a wonderful job of reporting fair and accurate (as well as unbiased, THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!) coverage. But, unfortunetly funds do run short. And without commercial cash chipping in, you do have to promote underwritings. I know that our station only ran about 4 an hour. It just depends on the station you listen to. The government isn't doing its part to help out right now either. (I don't think many people are going to like this BUT...) I think the government has a different agenda to uphold right now, and it is not education or public broadcasting at this point. So, to continue NPR and affiliates must beg... :(
> Please give NPR money! It's sad that NPR begs :(
Posted by octopusprime on November 23, 2003, at 14:23:02
In reply to Re: public broadcasting, posted by karen_kay on November 23, 2003, at 14:00:57
> <<I have not listened to CBC. Maybe I should.
CBC radio has three stations:
You can listen to CBC Radio one (mostly talk programming) here:
http://www.cbc.ca/audio.htmlpick a location and go. In about 40 minutes all locations will broadcast cross-country checkup, but usually the programming varies by location.
on that page, if you select "CBC Radio 3" from the "Radio" menu, you'll hear more recent music programming. i think radio 3 broadcasts during more limited hours during the day.
> >>>I know that our radio stations at the university had a large content devoted to regional news coverage. The students, as well as hired staff, were responsible for gathering, editing and reporting the local news. We even covered the local elections. I learned a lot, even though I'm not interested in radio. AP took care of national news. I thought that we did a wonderful job of reporting fair and accurate (as well as unbiased, THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!) coverage. But, unfortunetly funds do run short.coolness. congrats on doing the good work for keeping people informed.
i guess university radio does fill a niche in that market - you get the local call-in shows, descriptions of local art and cultural events, and interviews with local artists that you get on CBC radio.
but of course university radio doesn't usually get a nice powerful transmitter to go to the corners of the earth :(
anyway enjoy the radio feeds.
Posted by karen_kay on November 23, 2003, at 14:54:30
In reply to Re: public broadcasting, posted by octopusprime on November 23, 2003, at 14:23:02
> http://www.cbc.ca/audio.html
<<Thanks for the link. I will go. I think I prefer talk to current music any day.
> coolness. congrats on doing the good work for keeping people informed.<< Thanks... I might have just passed it by, if it were not for the requirement. But, I did learn a lot.
> but of course university radio doesn't usually get a nice powerful transmitter to go to the corners of the earth :(<<We had 4 different stations. The "fun" ones barely made it across campus! I lived off campus and couldn't even tape my own radio show. But the station which wasn't just for practice can be heard throughout most of Southern Indiana. The music is Awful (with a capital A!!) but the content of news coverage is remarkable, considering they are understaffed. And I've heard other great public radio stations throughout Indiana as well. Especially in Bloomington. WFHB, if you ever get a chance. I'll find out if they are on the web. They play a wide variety of music, from punk to local bands, jazz and country.
> anyway enjoy the radio feeds.
<<I will!!!
Thanks!
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