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Posted by girlygirl on October 18, 2003, at 16:11:47
Hi everyone - I am having a posting frenzy today! But would be really interested to hear from anyone about this. Cos I think I have it. I am in the UK and it's not really accepted here. I'm not the hyperactive type. But from doing web research there is a lot of stuff that rings bells with me. I have always had real problems with procrastination, concentration (sometimes too much so I get obsessed and addicted to things and sometimes I just can't focus my mind and can't sit still at all), blurting things out without thinking and embarassing myself, needing stimulants like speed or (at the least) coffee to feel awake, a lot of the time just not feeling properly "here" at all. Does that sound like ADD or is it just the usual depression stuff?
Would really appreciate and input
GG xx
Posted by cybercafe on October 18, 2003, at 19:14:33
In reply to So tell me about adult ADD, posted by girlygirl on October 18, 2003, at 16:11:47
> Hi everyone - I am having a posting frenzy today! But would be really interested to hear from anyone about this. Cos I think I have it. I am in the UK and it's not really accepted here. I'm not the hyperactive type. But from doing web research there is a lot of stuff that rings bells with me. I have always had real problems with procrastination, concentration (sometimes too much so I get obsessed and addicted to things and sometimes I just can't focus my mind and can't sit still at all), blurting things out without thinking and embarassing myself, needing stimulants like speed or (at the least) coffee to feel awake, a lot of the time just not feeling properly "here" at all. Does that sound like ADD or is it just the usual depression stuff?
>
> Would really appreciate and inputsince you havn't mentioned being depressed i'd *guess* it's more ADD.... or maybe you're just an extrovert? ..... for me it was so bad i couldn't hold down a job, and it still took me 8 years to get diagnosed .......
i guess the question is ...... "how does it interfere with your life?" .. to distinguish whether or not it is something that needs to be treated
Posted by girlygirl on October 19, 2003, at 9:54:20
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD, posted by cybercafe on October 18, 2003, at 19:14:33
I was diagnosed with depression six years ago (aged 18 - but think I probably had it long before that) and have struggled with it ever since. I have been on Prozac (4 years), Cipramil/Celexa, Efexor, Lofepramine, Diothepin and others. I have self-medicated with amphetamines and opiates, which worked extremely well actually, for a while anyway. I have done 12-step rehab, various different forms of therapy etc etc.
One thing I am NOT is an extrovert!During the worst period of my depression I went about three years with practically no face-to-face human contact, could hardly even leave my room. Was at university at the time and my work suffered, but I managed to scrape through because I was able to do my degree without speaking to people.
But I do wonder whether it's more a case of ADD that's developed depression on top of it because of years of not being able to cope normally. I have always struggled with a lot of things that other people seem to find easy(er). I have no control over my impulses, and never have, even as a child.
I am in tens of thousands of pounds of debt, will never be able to get credit again till I'm 40, probably, and still struggle even after putting loads of stuff in place in an attempt to protect me from myself. I don't seem able to connect my actions to the fact that if I spend all my money now I won't have any later. I starve at the end of every month! I am late for work every single day despite getting repeatedly yelled at because I can't connect getting up earlier to getting to work earlier. I just seem to live in constant chaos caused by the fact that I have no control over myself, and believe me I HAVE TRIED. ialso used to self harm a lot and have read articles about how self harm may be a way of dealing with ADD as the pain causes biochemical changes that "wake up" the parts of the brain that are "asleep" in ADD people. In my teens, I accepted what I was being told by psychiatrists, i.e. that it was a terrible thing I was doing because I hated myself, or something, but now I'm starting to think it was more something that REALLY HELPED ME COPE.
God, I've really gone off on one now. Sorry, am having quite a bad day, bursting into tears a lot so am letting off steam...
GG x
> > Hi everyone - I am having a posting frenzy today! But would be really interested to hear from anyone about this. Cos I think I have it. I am in the UK and it's not really accepted here. I'm not the hyperactive type. But from doing web research there is a lot of stuff that rings bells with me. I have always had real problems with procrastination, concentration (sometimes too much so I get obsessed and addicted to things and sometimes I just can't focus my mind and can't sit still at all), blurting things out without thinking and embarassing myself, needing stimulants like speed or (at the least) coffee to feel awake, a lot of the time just not feeling properly "here" at all. Does that sound like ADD or is it just the usual depression stuff?
> >
> > Would really appreciate and input
>
> since you havn't mentioned being depressed i'd *guess* it's more ADD.... or maybe you're just an extrovert? ..... for me it was so bad i couldn't hold down a job, and it still took me 8 years to get diagnosed .......
> i guess the question is ...... "how does it interfere with your life?" .. to distinguish whether or not it is something that needs to be treated
Posted by cybercafe on October 19, 2003, at 13:07:21
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!) » cybercafe, posted by girlygirl on October 19, 2003, at 9:54:20
> I was diagnosed with depression six years ago (aged 18 - but think I probably had it long before that) and have struggled with it ever since. I have been on Prozac (4 years), Cipramil/Celexa, Efexor, Lofepramine, Diothepin and others. I have
assuming these meds worked for you -- you weren't depressed -- could you concentrate okay?
> One thing I am NOT is an extrovert!During the worst period of my depression I went about three years with practically no face-to-face human contact, could hardly even leave my room. Was atbecause you were depressed, anxious, or just happy to be alone and do your own thing?
i have been alone for extended periods of time due to depression and anxiety but i'm still an extrovert
> But I do wonder whether it's more a case of ADD that's developed depression on top of it because of years of not being able to cope normally. I have always struggled with a lot of things that other people seem to find easy(er). I have no control over my impulses, and never have, even as a child.
oh yeah for sure.... in my case ... i worked my butt off and then found i couldn't handle a job and all my dreams suddenly were crushed.... that was very depressing....i totally think ADD can cause depression
>every month! I am late for work every single day despite getting repeatedly yelled at because I can't connect getting up earlier to getting to work earlier. I just seem to live in constant chaos caused by the fact that I have no control over myself, and believe me I HAVE TRIED. ialso used to
yeah me too.... i hate that ...... i don't even know why i'm always late.... i think it's the HYPERFOCUS thing... you finally findsomething that stimulates you and you're DESPERATE to finally see those pleasure centers of your brain work for once!!>self harm a lot and have read articles about how self harm may be a way of dealing with ADD as the pain causes biochemical changes that "wake up" the parts of the brain that are "asleep" in ADD people.
i know someone with ADD who is into self injury but i don't know if it's related ?
>In my teens, I accepted what I was being told by psychiatrists, i.e. that it was a terrible thing I was doing because I hated myself, or something, but now I'm starting to think it was more something that REALLY HELPED ME COPE.
i guess it's a terrible thing and really helpful in some ways too....
> God, I've really gone off on one now. Sorry, am having quite a bad day, bursting into tears a lot so am letting off steam...sorry to hear that........ i hope you get well soon... my heart goes out to all patients of the NHS :(
>
Posted by girlygirl on October 19, 2003, at 15:46:04
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!), posted by cybercafe on October 19, 2003, at 13:07:21
>
> assuming these meds worked for you -- you weren't depressed -- could you concentrate okay?
>
The only one that really worked was lofepramine - the rest (the SSRIs) just seemed to make me totally numb and lethargic. I lost interest in everything, cut off from my friends and ended up totally alone... and didn't really care that much. I was on Prozac during the really bad stage of my depression but when I went to my GP to ask for a change of meds or some other kind of help she instead gave me a lecture about trains and sent me away. Concentration-wise, my problems with it were the same as they always have been - with something that interests me I can sit for hours with it and not even hear things going on around me, but with most things it takes me forever to get started and usually it's only the panic of a looming deadline that focuses my mind.> because you were depressed, anxious, or just happy to be alone and do your own thing?
>
> i have been alone for extended periods of time due to depression and anxiety but i'm still an extrovert
>
Hmm.. I enjoy being with groups of people if I am close friends with them all anyway, but groups of people I don't know very well I've never been comfortable in. I worry so much about what people think of me I can't relax. When I was really depressed I couldn't even face seeing people I knew well because it was too difficult and frightening. But I DO like attention from people I trust. I don't know...>
> oh yeah for sure.... in my case ... i worked my butt off and then found i couldn't handle a job and all my dreams suddenly were crushed.... that was very depressing....i totally think ADD can cause depression
>
why couldn't you handle the job?> sorry to hear that........ i hope you get well soon... my heart goes out to all patients of the NHS :(
>
Yeah, we need all the sympathy we can get! the NHS is great for emergencies but truly abysmal for mental health (among numerous other things). If you swallow a bottle of paracetamol no problem - but since I am holding down a job the doc just wants me out of his office. I'm waiting for the day I earn enough money to pay a psychiatrist (hah!) hey, but I know I'm lucky. At least I've started to pull myself out of it (touch wood).So what do you reckon then, ADD or not? Clearly no substitute for a consultation with a trained professional, but since I'm unlikely to get one of those... ;-)
In the US, do you have to pay for all your meds or do they come out of health insurance automatically? GG x
Posted by cybercafe on October 19, 2003, at 18:33:58
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!) » cybercafe, posted by girlygirl on October 19, 2003, at 15:46:04
> The only one that really worked was lofepramine - the rest (the SSRIs) just seemed to make me totally numb and lethargic. I lost interest in everything, cut off from my friends and ended up totally alone... and didn't really care that much. I was on Prozac during the really bad stage of my depression but when I went to my GP to ask for a change of meds or some other kind of help she instead gave me a lecture about trains and sent me
hmmm... i got the same reaction from celexa, SSRI apathy, and it didn't totally work for my depression so i think you can't judge if you have ADD or not unless your depression is pretty much gone
having said that ....
>away. Concentration-wise, my problems with it were the same as they always have been - with something that interests me I can sit for hours with it and not even hear things going on around me, but with most things it takes me forever to get started and usually it's only the panic of a looming deadline that focuses my mind.
that sounds like ADD to me! ....> Hmm.. I enjoy being with groups of people if I am close friends with them all anyway, but groups of people I don't know very well I've never been comfortable in. I worry so much about what people think of me I can't relax. When I was really depressed I couldn't even face seeing people I knew well because it was too difficult and frightening. But I DO like attention from people I trust. I don't know...
okay sounds like you are me then... more shy or depressed than actually introverted necessarily (not saying you aren't introverted, just that other things can make you appear that way)
> > oh yeah for sure.... in my case ... i worked my butt off and then found i couldn't handle a job and all my dreams suddenly were crushed.... that was very depressing....i totally think ADD can cause depression
> >
> why couldn't you handle the job?uh.... feeling of profound boredom after first 1 or 2 hours of work, sleepiness, depression would set in ..... would want to go and do anything else ..... felt trapped, overwhelming sensation that i was wasting my time and could be doing things much more fun or meaningful... VERY overwhelming....
like mine is an extreme case i think, but if i tried to concentrate i would eventually just fall asleep
>
> > sorry to hear that........ i hope you get well soon... my heart goes out to all patients of the NHS :(
> >
> Yeah, we need all the sympathy we can get! the NHS is great for emergencies but truly abysmal for mental health (among numerous other things). If you swallow a bottle of paracetamol no problem - but since I am holding down a job the doc just wants me out of his office. I'm waiting for the day I earn enough money to pay a psychiatrist (hah!) hey, but I know I'm lucky. At least I've started to pull myself out of it (touch wood).i think my doc charged 90 quid a visit (back in london) .... ummm... and i'm hoping when i go back to the UK disability would be easy to get (worst case, i.e. if i can't work) and disability + regular dole would be enough to pay for a doc once or twice a month ??? i think dole is 50 quid a week and disability is another 25 or 50 ??
> So what do you reckon then, ADD or not? Clearly no substitute for a consultation with a trained professional, but since I'm unlikely to get one of those... ;-)sounds very possible ... if i were you i would get myself the OFFICIAL british psychiatric association diagnostic criteria for ADHD (if there is such a thing?), fill it out, and then show it to my doc .......
> In the US, do you have to pay for all your meds or do they come out of health insurance automatically? GG xdunno, i'm not a yank :)
Posted by girlygirl on October 20, 2003, at 14:43:41
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!), posted by cybercafe on October 19, 2003, at 18:33:58
Sorry, just assumed you were from the US since most people on this board are and you mentioned the NHS. Where you from then?
> uh.... feeling of profound boredom after first 1 or 2 hours of work, sleepiness, depression would set in ..... would want to go and do anything else ..... felt trapped, overwhelming sensation that i was wasting my time and could be doing things much more fun or meaningful... VERY overwhelming....
> like mine is an extreme case i think, but if i tried to concentrate i would eventually just fall asleep
>
>
god, how awful :-( I get really scared sometimes that I actually can't do any job except this one. I was thinking after my last post that being a news reporter is just perfect cos it imposes all this structure on me that I'm totally incapable of imposing on myself, while being highly stimulating. I worked as a secretary for a year tho and I know what you mean about falling asleep.. I used to go into the toilets and sleep for five or ten minute periods curled up on the cubicle floor! not comfortable At All. It's weird though, cos when my brain was "switched off" by the repetitive work I couldn't function in other ways either, couldn't talk to people to make it less boring, I'd just fall into a zombie state. God, i was miserable.> >
> i think my doc charged 90 quid a visit (back in london) .... ummm... and i'm hoping when i go back to the UK disability would be easy to get (worst case, i.e. if i can't work) and disability + regular dole would be enough to pay for a doc once or twice a month ??? i think dole is 50 quid a week and disability is another 25 or 50 ??
>
WOULD it be that easy to get disability for ADHD though? Not sure they even recognise it in Britain... but then, you should be able to get it for depression. i did for a year. i was living on #45 a week total though cos I hadn't paid any National Insurance at that point (I was 20). In central London. It was a nightmare. I couldn't leave Whitechapel!Anyway, thank you for your kind advice! It was interesting what you said about your problems with work, and definitely rang a bell. I hope things improve for you. Are you on meds for it?
GG xx
Posted by cybercafe on October 21, 2003, at 2:56:53
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!) » cybercafe, posted by girlygirl on October 20, 2003, at 14:43:41
> Sorry, just assumed you were from the US since most people on this board are and you mentioned the NHS. Where you from then?
hah, that's okay, we canadians don't mind being mistaken for americans as much as people think ... i just couldn't miss the opportunity to use the term "yank" :)
> god, how awful :-( I get really scared sometimes that I actually can't do any job except this one.
maybe you can't (highly unlikely... there's part time or university studies?)...... but then there's always medication...so you have lots of options
>I was thinking after my last post that being a news reporter is just perfect cos it imposes all this structure on me that I'm totally incapable of imposing on myself, while being highly stimulating. I worked as a secretary for a year tho and I know what you mean about falling asleep.. I used to go into the toilets and sleep for five or ten minute periods curled up on the cubicle floor! not comfortable At All. It's weird though, cos when my
yeah that is a horrible experience... when i started taking ritalin i couldn't believe how easy it was .... i mean these sane people just have things so easy you wouldn't believe!
sleep helped a lot though when i was undiagnosed
>brain was "switched off" by the repetitive work I couldn't function in other ways either, couldn't talk to people to make it less boring, I'd just fall into a zombie state. God, i was miserable.
yep...... i am so thankful i finally have a diagnosis... as soon as this AD takes effect i hope to move back to london and make a ton of money
> WOULD it be that easy to get disability for ADHD though? Not sure they even recognise it in Britain... but then, you should be able to get it for depression. i did for a year. i was living on
yeah they said disability in the UK depends on your ability to work and if you can't work b/c of depression then you are entitledto disability....... plus i have a whole host of disorders, bipolar + anxiety + adhd ...and i could even argue that i havn't been fully diagnosed yet, start blabbing about cortisol and my need to see an endocronologist or sleep apnea and my need to have a sleep study done :)
after all the time i've spent on the boards, i'm sure i could BLOW AWAY any interviewer .... usually my first approach is "these meds make me sleep 16 hours a day... -exaggerate horrible side effects- but i don't expect you to believe me.... so if you'd like to try them i could bring them along next visit :) :)">#45 a week total though cos I hadn't paid any National Insurance at that point (I was 20). In central London. It was a nightmare. I couldn't leave Whitechapel!
wow that sounds good.... i used to live in hendon, hoxton and then finsbury park .... i think shopping at iceland? or safeways? i could probably get by on 2 or 3 quid a day worth of food
> Anyway, thank you for your kind advice! It was interesting what you said about your problems with work, and definitely rang a bell. I hope things improve for you. Are you on meds for it?yep i'm on ritalin... but i'm not currently working until i find a suitable AD .... which should happen in about 2 hours (going back on parnate) :)
PLEASE tell me the IT market in london is good :)
Posted by puravida on October 25, 2003, at 0:27:26
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!), posted by cybercafe on October 21, 2003, at 2:56:53
Hi Cybercafe and GG,
I haven't been to Dr. Bob's site in awhile - but had posted late last spring about ADD. I am pretty sure it is what has caused most of my angst/depression the past seven years. It all started when I began my sales career - I ws craving freedom, and like I wanted, I got that low structure, and then I beat myself to death with indecision.
I used to be very social (as a child, very insecure, clingy - as a young single woman - very social, seeking approval).
Now I'm in a very structured job - regular hours, usually one very intellectual thing to concentrate on at a time, few interruptions, and sometimes, mundane tasks (like editing/formatting lots of text)as well.
I have been doing much better on Wellbutrin, and with a job where I can be focused. I find, though, that its my personal life that gets me now - I still have to make decisions there.
Which is why I write now - typically (maybe)I have used my friends and my social life to distract me from my real goals. Maybe in a way they were like an addiction to food or alcohol - I was liked, needed, busy.
So now I am trying to get my finances and home in order, and my physical health back. I find that it seems I can only (barely) juggle the three - work, my health & exercise, and my home/finances. When I try to fit in my hobbies and social life I feel overwhelmed, resentful, pressured, and even a bit hopeless.
So - my question- since I am used to the definition of depression being "lack of enjoyment of social activities and hobbies" - how do I know if I am A) slipping into, or setting myself up to, slip into depression or B) just keeping my level of energy and stimuation focused on what seems right to me.
Can either of you identify?
Now that I think of it, I have so many feelings about other people in my life - everything from wanting absolutely no responsibility or accountability towards them, to wanting to contact each and every one and tell them how much I enjoy them, or at the very least, set something to rest. But, the contacting part sems to always remain on my list, and nags at me, and then I feel guilty.
I'd love to hear back from you if this sounds familiar. I hope that my doc (who does beleive in adult AD) can put me on the new Wellbutrin - I have a problem taking meds 2x a day...
PV
> > Sorry, just assumed you were from the US since most people on this board are and you mentioned the NHS. Where you from then?
>
> hah, that's okay, we canadians don't mind being mistaken for americans as much as people think ... i just couldn't miss the opportunity to use the term "yank" :)
>
> > god, how awful :-( I get really scared sometimes that I actually can't do any job except this one.
>
> maybe you can't (highly unlikely... there's part time or university studies?)...... but then there's always medication...so you have lots of options
>
> >I was thinking after my last post that being a news reporter is just perfect cos it imposes all this structure on me that I'm totally incapable of imposing on myself, while being highly stimulating. I worked as a secretary for a year tho and I know what you mean about falling asleep.. I used to go into the toilets and sleep for five or ten minute periods curled up on the cubicle floor! not comfortable At All. It's weird though, cos when my
>
> yeah that is a horrible experience... when i started taking ritalin i couldn't believe how easy it was .... i mean these sane people just have things so easy you wouldn't believe!
>
> sleep helped a lot though when i was undiagnosed
>
> >brain was "switched off" by the repetitive work I couldn't function in other ways either, couldn't talk to people to make it less boring, I'd just fall into a zombie state. God, i was miserable.
>
> yep...... i am so thankful i finally have a diagnosis... as soon as this AD takes effect i hope to move back to london and make a ton of money
>
> > WOULD it be that easy to get disability for ADHD though? Not sure they even recognise it in Britain... but then, you should be able to get it for depression. i did for a year. i was living on
>
> yeah they said disability in the UK depends on your ability to work and if you can't work b/c of depression then you are entitledto disability....... plus i have a whole host of disorders, bipolar + anxiety + adhd ...and i could even argue that i havn't been fully diagnosed yet, start blabbing about cortisol and my need to see an endocronologist or sleep apnea and my need to have a sleep study done :)
> after all the time i've spent on the boards, i'm sure i could BLOW AWAY any interviewer .... usually my first approach is "these meds make me sleep 16 hours a day... -exaggerate horrible side effects- but i don't expect you to believe me.... so if you'd like to try them i could bring them along next visit :) :)"
>
> >#45 a week total though cos I hadn't paid any National Insurance at that point (I was 20). In central London. It was a nightmare. I couldn't leave Whitechapel!
>
> wow that sounds good.... i used to live in hendon, hoxton and then finsbury park .... i think shopping at iceland? or safeways? i could probably get by on 2 or 3 quid a day worth of food
>
>
> > Anyway, thank you for your kind advice! It was interesting what you said about your problems with work, and definitely rang a bell. I hope things improve for you. Are you on meds for it?
>
> yep i'm on ritalin... but i'm not currently working until i find a suitable AD .... which should happen in about 2 hours (going back on parnate) :)
>
> PLEASE tell me the IT market in london is good :)
Posted by cybercafe on November 1, 2003, at 19:50:52
In reply to Re: So tell me about adult ADD (LONG!), posted by puravida on October 25, 2003, at 0:27:26
sorry took so long to reply
> Hi Cybercafe and GG,
>
> I haven't been to Dr. Bob's site in awhile - but had posted late last spring about ADD. I am pretty sure it is what has caused most of my angst/depression the past seven years. It all started when I began my sales career - I ws craving freedom, and like I wanted, I got that low structure, and then I beat myself to death with indecision.yeah... i was always desperate for more freedom in my jobs........ ummmmmmmm..... have you tried any diagnostic sites for ADHD? or looked at the DSM?
> I used to be very social (as a child, very insecure, clingy - as a young single woman - very social, seeking approval).i was very much the same
> Now I'm in a very structured job - regular hours, usually one very intellectual thing to concentrate on at a time, few interruptions, and sometimes, mundane tasks (like editing/formatting lots of text)as well.
>
> I have been doing much better on Wellbutrin, and with a job where I can be focused. I find, though, that its my personal life that gets me now - I still have to make decisions there.ok you're doing better than me :)
i can get bored easily when socialising, but then i tend to do more stimulating things OR direct covnersations more (which is actually quite weird, because i'm a more shy person but... BOREDOm tends to overwhelm my shyness)
> Which is why I write now - typically (maybe)I have used my friends and my social life to distract me from my real goals. Maybe in a way they were like an addiction to food or alcohol - I was liked, needed, busy.
>
> So now I am trying to get my finances and home in order, and my physical health back. I find that it seems I can only (barely) juggle the three - work, my health & exercise, and my home/finances. When I try to fit in my hobbies and social life I feel overwhelmed, resentful, pressured, and even a bit hopeless.
>
> So - my question- since I am used to the definition of depression being "lack of enjoyment of social activities and hobbies" - how do I know if I am A) slipping into, or setting myself up to, slip into depression or B) just keeping my level of energy and stimuation focused on what seems right to me.i guess you ask yourself if your need for stimulation clearly disrupts your life, puts you at a disadvantage where other people have none ...
can you figure this out?
i definately had the inability to enjoy things without being in a depression .... if there was not sufficient stimulation...
i guess you would really have to go into a lot of detail with someone re: where you see yourself having trouble (and how you feel) and how the average joe handles the situation
i definately spent a lot of time asking people what their feelings/thoughts/attitudes were on X and noticed a big difference to mine
but definately check out the official diagnostic criteria
good luck :)
>
> Can either of you identify?
>
> Now that I think of it, I have so many feelings about other people in my life - everything from wanting absolutely no responsibility or accountability towards them, to wanting to contact each and every one and tell them how much I enjoy them, or at the very least, set something to rest. But, the contacting part sems to always remain on my list, and nags at me, and then I feel guilty.
>
> I'd love to hear back from you if this sounds familiar. I hope that my doc (who does beleive in adult AD) can put me on the new Wellbutrin - I have a problem taking meds 2x a day...
>
> PV
>
>
> > > Sorry, just assumed you were from the US since most people on this board are and you mentioned the NHS. Where you from then?
> >
> > hah, that's okay, we canadians don't mind being mistaken for americans as much as people think ... i just couldn't miss the opportunity to use the term "yank" :)
> >
> > > god, how awful :-( I get really scared sometimes that I actually can't do any job except this one.
> >
> > maybe you can't (highly unlikely... there's part time or university studies?)...... but then there's always medication...so you have lots of options
> >
> > >I was thinking after my last post that being a news reporter is just perfect cos it imposes all this structure on me that I'm totally incapable of imposing on myself, while being highly stimulating. I worked as a secretary for a year tho and I know what you mean about falling asleep.. I used to go into the toilets and sleep for five or ten minute periods curled up on the cubicle floor! not comfortable At All. It's weird though, cos when my
> >
> > yeah that is a horrible experience... when i started taking ritalin i couldn't believe how easy it was .... i mean these sane people just have things so easy you wouldn't believe!
> >
> > sleep helped a lot though when i was undiagnosed
> >
> > >brain was "switched off" by the repetitive work I couldn't function in other ways either, couldn't talk to people to make it less boring, I'd just fall into a zombie state. God, i was miserable.
> >
> > yep...... i am so thankful i finally have a diagnosis... as soon as this AD takes effect i hope to move back to london and make a ton of money
> >
> > > WOULD it be that easy to get disability for ADHD though? Not sure they even recognise it in Britain... but then, you should be able to get it for depression. i did for a year. i was living on
> >
> > yeah they said disability in the UK depends on your ability to work and if you can't work b/c of depression then you are entitledto disability....... plus i have a whole host of disorders, bipolar + anxiety + adhd ...and i could even argue that i havn't been fully diagnosed yet, start blabbing about cortisol and my need to see an endocronologist or sleep apnea and my need to have a sleep study done :)
> > after all the time i've spent on the boards, i'm sure i could BLOW AWAY any interviewer .... usually my first approach is "these meds make me sleep 16 hours a day... -exaggerate horrible side effects- but i don't expect you to believe me.... so if you'd like to try them i could bring them along next visit :) :)"
> >
> > >#45 a week total though cos I hadn't paid any National Insurance at that point (I was 20). In central London. It was a nightmare. I couldn't leave Whitechapel!
> >
> > wow that sounds good.... i used to live in hendon, hoxton and then finsbury park .... i think shopping at iceland? or safeways? i could probably get by on 2 or 3 quid a day worth of food
> >
> >
> > > Anyway, thank you for your kind advice! It was interesting what you said about your problems with work, and definitely rang a bell. I hope things improve for you. Are you on meds for it?
> >
> > yep i'm on ritalin... but i'm not currently working until i find a suitable AD .... which should happen in about 2 hours (going back on parnate) :)
> >
> > PLEASE tell me the IT market in london is good :)
>
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