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Posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 9:31:39
This has been discussed on Adm. and there are other sources of information available.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 10:47:10
In reply to Knowledge is Power, posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 9:31:39
Theres really not much you can actually do about a troll that is really wanting to continue trolling.. I've had a b**tard of a troll attacking me for a few years now.. and there is no way to stop them.
It sucks
Nikki
Posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 11:12:10
In reply to Re: Knowledge is Power » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 10:47:10
I'm sorry for your problems. I wish something could be done.
I found the information interesting.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 12:10:36
In reply to NikkiT2, posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 11:12:10
It was an interesting read.. I've actually posted it where my troll stalks me mainly (he's luckily never found me at this site!)!!
It's just very annoying, that at the end of the day, there is absolutly nothing that can be done to prevent a troll getitng back on to a site. Obviusly I'm not going to go into technicalities, cos I don't want to be giving people ideas!!
Its darn unfair!!!
Nikki xx
Posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 12:29:53
In reply to Re: NikkiT2 » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 12:10:36
It's difficult for me to understand the joy this activity evidently brings the abuser. I think it should be a mental health diagnosis, as I think the roots for such activity lie there. I'm glad you have found a bit of success (and peace) with this site. I wish I could say the same. Sigh.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 12:52:11
In reply to Re: NikkiT2, posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 12:29:53
Are you having problems with someone on this site??
I'm not feeling as safe here as I have done.. I no longer feel I know who most people are. I've been here 4 years now, and though I do have to admit to a name change (NikkiT to NikkiT2!! *lol*) the number of them going on really freaks me out. So I am pretty much keeping myself to the pb2000 board cos I know who everyone is there..
If you're receiving abusive email from here, forward it, including all the headers, to Dr Bob, as he can try and compare it to posters details.
There are ways to increase your safety, and you can easily get rid of those trolls that aren't very techinically savvy.
Nikki
Posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 13:19:13
In reply to Re: NikkiT2 » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 12:52:11
I had a problem in the past. I am very carful. I, too, admit to a change of name, long before the big stuff with that started. It was for safety reasons and not for any malicious intent. I have not been comfortable taking that action, but it has allowed me to have the ability to gain the benefits of this site as it is intended. I feel fairly safe here, there are some activities I find quite disturbing. However, I am at the point, I can ask questions, make comments, respond or ignore. I do sometimes miss my days of freedom and openness of the past, but I'm not sure that was really a good idea, looking back. I use the site off and on and there are some good people here and then, there are some---- well, anyway, I appreciate your asking.
Posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:32:51
In reply to Re: Knowledge is Power » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 15, 2003, at 10:47:10
> Theres really not much you can actually do about a troll that is really wanting to continue trolling.. I've had a b**tard of a troll attacking me for a few years now.. and there is no way to stop them.
>
> It sucks
>
> Nikkido you believe that completely ignoring them, I mean %100 doesnt help? Ive fortunately never been in your position but have seen it on other boards
Posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:37:14
In reply to Re: NikkiT2, posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 13:19:13
that's why I freak when I see newbies arrive that think they have to reveal themselves & their real names etc. So many people dont realise the relentless trouble that some sickos enjoy causing others online.
I think DrBob should include some advice on the joining page about keeping safe online, especially here where people are revealing extremely personal information about their mental health
Posted by KellyD on October 15, 2003, at 20:58:11
In reply to Re: NikkiT2 » KellyD, posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:37:14
on the not revealing too much, it's very easy to fall into a comfort zone when one feels they are in the company of what is "thought" to be like souls. Word to the wise to always step lightly---- and be wary of alot of what you read.
Too bad that's the case.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 16, 2003, at 1:19:26
In reply to Re: Knowledge is Power » NikkiT2, posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:32:51
Its been going on 6 years.. tried the ignoring thing, tried everything!! *l* I ignore him these days.. but that means I can no longer even post on a chat site I ahve been using for 7 years *sighs* If I so much as post, it all starts again (which is happening at the moment)..
Oh well!
Nikki x
Posted by Liligoth on October 16, 2003, at 1:33:57
In reply to Re: Knowledge is Power » Liligoth, posted by NikkiT2 on October 16, 2003, at 1:19:26
> Its been going on 6 years.. tried the ignoring thing, tried everything!! *l* I ignore him these days.. but that means I can no longer even post on a chat site I ahve been using for 7 years *sighs* If I so much as post, it all starts again (which is happening at the moment)..
>
> Oh well!
>
> Nikki x
Im sorry to hear that. It's good that you are keeping yourself safe.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2003, at 8:51:29
In reply to Re: NikkiT2 » KellyD, posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:37:14
> I think DrBob should include some advice on the joining page about keeping safe online
There's already a link there (and on every posting page) to the privacy section of the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#anonymous
Is there something you think I should add to that?
Bob
Posted by stjames on October 16, 2003, at 10:53:18
In reply to Re: NikkiT2 » KellyD, posted by Liligoth on October 15, 2003, at 20:37:14
I think DrBob should include some advice on the joining page about keeping safe online, especially here where people are revealing extremely personal information about their mental health
I think you should read the FAQ before you make statements like this ! (hint...it's in there)
Clearly, some just have to make mistakes and get burned before the ***wake up*** and realize this is a ****public**** web site. Hello !! What did you think this was ??
Posted by Liligoth on October 17, 2003, at 6:27:06
In reply to Re: keeping safe online, posted by Dr. Bob on October 16, 2003, at 8:51:29
> > I think DrBob should include some advice on the joining page about keeping safe online
>
> There's already a link there (and on every posting page) to the privacy section of the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#anonymous
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> Is there something you think I should add to that?
>
> Boboh yes I had seen the faq, I suppose Im worrying more about safety issues at a much more personal level between people online. Newbies dont seem to know that msg boards & usenet attract can attract some people who make a sport out of stalking & harrassing others.
I dont know what could be added to the faq to cover this & I suppose that what is written there probably does take this issue into account.
Posted by KellyD on October 17, 2003, at 8:47:57
In reply to Re: keeping safe online, posted by Liligoth on October 17, 2003, at 6:27:06
I did have to get "burned" to learn a lesson. While covered in FAQ, I think a number of difficulties can arise when personal Emails start between posters, this can be a good thing, but opens for disasters, too. When those addresses are available by registering or are included in a post, one must remember, if you write personally, a "stranger" has your address, too. Personal information is more likely if one feels they are writing one on one. Abuse can be reported, Email accounts that aren't primary can be used (and closed), and blocking can be done, but damage can be done prior to those actions. Fortunately, most of us only have to get burned once.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 17, 2003, at 9:30:31
In reply to Personal Emails, posted by KellyD on October 17, 2003, at 8:47:57
Quite simple answer to that is to not post your email address in any of the messages here!! I've only posted it two or three times, and am only in email contact with one person from this board (I'm in contact with other poeple here too, but I got to know them better at a yahoo group). I've never recieved an abusive email from here, as people simply don't know my email address!!
You could probably find a really old one of mine if you hunted round enough though!! *L*Nikki
Posted by KellyD on October 17, 2003, at 9:38:56
In reply to Re: Personal Emails » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 17, 2003, at 9:30:31
"Quite simple answer to that is to not post your email address in any of the messages here!!"
or respond without eyes wide open!!!
Posted by stjames on October 17, 2003, at 11:01:28
In reply to Re: Personal Emails » KellyD, posted by NikkiT2 on October 17, 2003, at 9:30:31
Personally I think the option to post with your e-mail address is a bad one and should not be offered. If people want to post their address
it needs to be an active choice and not accidental.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 19, 2003, at 13:20:16
In reply to Re: Personal Emails, posted by stjames on October 17, 2003, at 11:01:28
> Personally I think the option to post with your e-mail address is a bad one and should not be offered. If people want to post their address it needs to be an active choice and not accidental.
It does need to be an active choice, the default is not to include it...
Bob
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