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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:56:28
Re: what do we do now? » yankeegirl
Posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 20:47:30
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/245313.html
Dear Yankeegirl and everyone else
I think right now most of us are taking a break. Licking our wounds so to speak. Dr. Bob as a psychologist or is it psychiatrist must understand that we are on meds or should be on meds because we have depression. Depression to me isn't just seratonin or whatever chemical imbalances we may have, its also because of trauma, real or imagined, abuse, mistrust, etc.
Obviously most of us on here have created a bond - and I have never been a situation where newcomers are more welcome than with this group of people. Doesn't matter how long we been posting - anyone new or old with questions or needs to get something off their chest gets heard and we do care because we are in the same position, we need help.
I hope everyone in the Effexor posting doesn't think we disappeared, I think we are thinking things through, and we are hurt - whether we had a right to feel hurt, whether we knew the rules or understood them when we signed up for Babble or not, some of us feel hurt. It's probably an old hurt - from an old scolding somewhere, or feeling of let down or our own self-doubts but a lot of us are fragile right now, he** we are now or will be or have been on depression medication!
Yankee - please feel free to write me at CherC68@aol.com - or anyone if they want to talk.
I for one am not leaving, I'm just very tired right now - and a bit drained and don't actually have the stamina right now. Please don't think we disappeared --tomorrow is a new day and hopefully better one for our psyche and our self-esteem.
P.S. Still haven't taken any Xanax
Love,
Cher--
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 20:57:07
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/245313.html
> Hi Ladies, (I think you are all ladies recently)
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> Sigh. There haven't been many posts this afternoon. What are we all thinking? I actually had a SECOND post not show up. Am I doing something wrong? I know I am on the Effexor thread, I get the message that says "your message was posted", I refresh, even log off and log on, and 2 messages did not show up. They were long ones too! Do I have to copy to word as a backup from now on? I'm entering now to see if this posts. YankeegirlOk, that worked so I'll try again. BTW (by the way) you CAN copy before you submit, and paste it to a word document. I'm going to do that for all my long ones from now on!
Anyway, we have had major reactions to Dr. Bob's 'redirect' yesterday. As I tried to say earlier today, after getting all upset, and the wonderful Dinah clarifying things so much, I am starting to see their point. People who pick up the Effexor thread are at the starting point and they still want to know about side effects, dose levels, etc., but we are way past that point, and maybe reading our deeper thoughts (oooo - "Deep Thoughts" by the Effexor Club...) are not what is appropriate for them.
Part of my 'avoidant personality' is being scared to go to new places, but I'd like us all to share our thoughts about going together to the psycho social babble. I say 'us'. I am a new poster and you all don't know me very well yet, but I have read probably 1,000 posts in the last month, and I feel very comfortable here and would like to continue on with you guys.
Mercedes and Susy - you were so funny with the "where are my friends" and "I'm otta here". Thanks for the giggles.
Ninya, oh my gosh, you are so intelligent and verbally proficient. We are so forever grateful for sending us amazing support in the midst of our panic and rejection by being able to put our feelings into words. Thank you, thank you.
Cher, I think you were the person here who took Dr. Bob's redirect comment the hardest. It made me wish I could hug you and pat your hair. You blamed yourself, but I also was urging people to talk about the WHYS of needing the medication, and I blamed myself at first, too. But you know what? This was NOBODY'S fault. I think this was just an unintended consequence of what Bob wanted to create; he envisioned one thing and it unexpectedly turned into something else. It evolved into something he didn't want to be precisely here, but we evolved it ourselves into something that we need.
After absorbing Dinah's comments, wouldn't it be ok if we decided as a group to go there together? Maybe there would be other people who have already gone through this who could enlighten us? You guys are the experienced ones who always help the newbies with their questions from 'Day 1 on Effexor', etc. Maybe it's time to move to a site where other people can help you (us) to make our OWN progress?????
Please share thoughts. Cher, did that deep breathing help? I sure hope you don't have that bad reaction tomorrow. But I know, all of our problems are that our bodies just do things we don't like or even understand. Calming thoughts winging their way to you.... Yankeegirl
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Re: Posts didn't disappear. » mercedes
Posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 21:55:07
In reply to Re: Posts didn't disappear. » Dinah, posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 21:46:28
I'm on Xanax but was on Effexor and am now looking for suggestions regarding starting something new.
Okay, so anyhow - I seen the apology from Dr. Bob, it was a one liner and its a bit hard to find the site again.
Please remember - when or if we make a move to Social-Babble - anytime it seems meds are mentioned or a question regarding meds is posted it gets redirected where???? YOU GUESSED IT --here!
Oh gheeeeeeesh - I would hate to lose all you - but I might learn more about web building and make a posting website instead of comments regarding my website it could be pscyho whatever you want to talk about site:
Yeah, but if I had the energy to do all that I should have the energy for a smile more than once a week.
Tomorrow will be a better day.....Tomorrow will be a better day.....I'm a gonna take a Xanax why because tomorrow will be a better day.
I'm nuts.
Love,
Cher--
Re: Yankee, Kim, Nyia, Willie, Merc, Cher, Susy et al » zinya
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 22:17:29
In reply to http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030723/msgs/245337.html
Zinya, I saw your post here earlier and was going to respond to you last cuz I had more to say to you than the others. But now I don't know where this message is going to end up.
But Gosh Zinya, when I read your kind words, I started to cry. You are so understanding and your words come across from your heart which truly touched mine. I thank you from the bottom, side's, back and front of my heart for responding to my post that got all screwed up. I don't know why all our posts are being redirected to two different places but I'm a little tired of them messing with our minds and dignity. We did nothing wrong, although I felt so earlier but with all the support coming in from all, especially you, I felt better. Now I don't know where I am again.
WHY FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKEn ?!
I don't understand, you are on effexor, I am on effexor, other's are on effexor, so why can't we stay here. I don't want to try to figure this out now. I almost had a fainting spell earlier but I breeeeeathed, yes I also learned that in therapy.
Well, luv you and till we meet again somewhere in this babble cyberspace.... I feel like the Columbia (space shuttle) it just got broken up into little peices and now we have to try to recover all the pieces. I think you are right that maybe we should just email. It's their loss that we won't be able to help other's or get help about taking effexor and learning about SE's. Hope you sleep more than 5 hrs tonight. I only slept 2 1/2 last night and I did take about 1 hr nap today. But I'm not sleepy right now. Oh, I mowed my lawn at 9:30 last night due to the weather being so HOT here. Again, thank you for those kind words of reasurrance.
(((hugs)))
Mercedes
********************************> hi all
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> I wrote a long post too earlier today - it was a response to mercedes but to anyone else as well - it also got moved.
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> I'm just writing to let you all know that mine as well as several others from various ones of us got moved in a lump sum over to the Psycho-Social Babble. They're all together under one post called "Redirect..." and it says it's from Dr. Bob but what it really is is all of our posts from here one after the other inside one big post.
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> So you can go there to see what we wrote here earlier today which is now no longer permitted on this site unless it's only about Effexor. Anything about the rest of our lives is getting moved to the other site. Look for us there and/or write to Cher's e-mail as she suggested in her post to Yankee and we could also all exchange e-mails too if we wind up preferring...
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> It's been a very unexpectedly disruptive day to the sense of security and groupness, so some of us have just kind of petered out for a while
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> love and hugs,
> zinya--
Re: Where am I ? » CherC68
Posted by mercedes on July 25, 2003, at 22:35:39
In reply to Re: Posts didn't disappear. » mercedes, posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 21:55:07
Oh, I'm on Effexor 300 mgs, also taking xanex for things like these.
ok ok, Cher you made me laugh. That's so helpful cause it upped my seratonin level.
ok ok ok, am I cleared to write?
I agree this has been a real whirlwind day. Just to add to those tornados you've been through. I'm with you about licking our wounds but do I still have to lick tomorrow?Oh one other thing, my best freind's husband had prostate cancer and it IS Treatable with radiation. He's cleared of any cancer now, just has to get checked every now and then. He is about 58 yrs old. I realize that not knowing is the most stressful time. I too, had a tumor near my ovary (about 8 centimeter's) and went through hell waiting for the blood tests to see if I had cancer cells runing through my body. Geeeesh! what more can we have in common. T.G. it was benign.
Wuups, one more thing.......I forgot already. That's cuz I'm stressed today.
Luv you and want to keep in touch.
Mercedes--
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:19:52
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » yankeegirl, posted by NThompson on July 25, 2003, at 22:08:50
> Good Evening Yankeegirl,
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> Sometimes I have problems with that. I have to go all the way out of the website and then go back in. When I do that I see the posts I have sent. I hope your day is going well.
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> Hope that works,
> NyiaHi Nyia! Wow, your name must be why I called Zinya 'Ninya". Hee hee.
Have you caught up with the other posts about our being asked to go to a different site, and that my 2 'missing' posts were redirected to psycho-social and psycho-administration?
Do you have any suggestions of where we can all be at ONE site? Yankeegirl
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Re: Posts didn't disappear. » CherC68
Posted by zinya on July 25, 2003, at 22:36:03
In reply to Re: Posts didn't disappear. » mercedes, posted by CherC68 on July 25, 2003, at 21:55:07
Just to say i'm smiling with you at your laugh at yourself -- as I psych up to take my 4th Effexor 150 mg tonight !! -- :) and appreciating your post... and i'm nuts too ... and this is feeling nuts ... Indeed tomorrow may be a better day -- well, it WILL be a better day - but it may be here ... or it may be "off campus'...
love,
zinya--
Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » mercedes
Posted by Daphnis on July 26, 2003, at 6:37:11
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » Dinah, posted by mercedes on July 26, 2003, at 2:44:21
Hey everyone. I was gone due to ER with my 18 year old daughter whose temp was 104.2. This morning it's only 103.2!
I appears that this very thread itself is just now under the title of Psycho-social babble, or am I crazy (Ha Ha). I don't feel safe here anymore and have written cher's e-mail. Maybe we can regroup with group e-mails, a directive on this site to anyone interested (like cher's directive) and then when the chaos subsides, and we are ready to be a source of help again, we can step back in here? Just an idea. Obviously I am out of the loop at the moment. No idea if I post this where it will fly to...Daph
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Re: Effexor Club to zinya
Posted by Daphnis on July 26, 2003, at 8:59:10
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now? » mercedes, posted by Daphnis on July 26, 2003, at 6:37:11
zinya, your message under "Redirects" social or administration or wherever it was is so great. So the way I feel. And let me just legitimize my entry here ( :) ) and add that I took like less than a sixth of a tab of Effexor yesterday, for the first time in weeks! I know, it's truly nuts. but hey, I'm working on it and I'm here, right? (That's a joke too.) I wrote cher, but worry that as she won't recognize my real name and e-mail, she will delete my message! Daph
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Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by Susy on July 26, 2003, at 11:03:02
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:19:52
Ok, wherever we go, just please have patience and let's stay together, I mean, I am still laughing about Yankeegirl messing up even with the names.
Jajaja, Ninya, because of Zinya and Nyia, that is very funny isn't?
Just please, don't be mad anymore, we will remain together and find time to talk about a looooot of more things we still want to share.
By the way, finally, tired of waiting for all of you at the Psycho-Social I drink my coffee myself, alone, thinking about all of you my dearest cyber friends.
Have a wonderful one!!!!Suy
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Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by Susy on July 26, 2003, at 11:04:26
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by yankeegirl on July 25, 2003, at 22:19:52
Ok, wherever we go, just please have patience and let's stay together, I mean, I am still laughing about Yankeegirl messing up even with the names.
Jajaja, Ninya, because of Zinya and Nyia, that is very funny isn't?
Just please, don't be mad anymore, we will remain together and find time to talk about a looooot of more things we still want to share.
By the way, finally, tired of waiting for all of you at the Psycho-Social I drink my coffee myself, alone, thinking about all of you my dearest cyber friends.
Have a wonderful one!!!!Suy (jajjaja, just kidding) Susy
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Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?
Posted by Susy on July 26, 2003, at 11:09:29
In reply to Re: Effexor Club - what do we do now?, posted by Susy on July 26, 2003, at 11:03:02
Hey somebody took out the last part of my post.
It was something simple ok, but is not there.
Ok, I put at the end Have a wonderful One!
Suy.....just kidding...Susy
So see you guys in the Social??????
Posted by gabbix2 on July 27, 2003, at 12:38:03
In reply to Redirected: staying together (Effexor Club), posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:56:28
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 15:36:33
In reply to Redirected: staying together (Effexor Club), posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:56:28
> Part of my 'avoidant personality' is being scared to go to new places
That's an interesting point, I've tended to think of interacting online as more comfortable for people who are avoidant than interacting in person, but I guess there can be anxiety about going someplace new online, too... Thanks for mentioning that,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 15:38:29
In reply to Redirected: staying together (Effexor Club), posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 10:56:28
> when or if we make a move to Social-Babble - anytime it seems meds are mentioned or a question regarding meds is posted it gets redirected where???? YOU GUESSED IT --here!
It's not quite that rigid, see Noa's post above:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030719/msgs/245711.html
Bob
Posted by yankeegirl on July 28, 2003, at 1:31:52
In reply to Re: being scared to go to new places, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 15:36:33
> > Part of my 'avoidant personality' is being scared to go to new places
>
> That's an interesting point, I've tended to think of interacting online as more comfortable for people who are avoidant than interacting in person, but I guess there can be anxiety about going someplace new online, too... Thanks for mentioning that,
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> BobThe way I got to Psycho-Babble was to do a search on Effexor and I clicked on "Anyone having success...) and a HUGE page opened up all about Effexor. I never went anywhere else on your site. I just read Effexor posts for 3 weeks before registering. So I had no context that the Effexor questions were one of many different posts about different drugs at a place called P-B.
I would keep thinking "Who is this Dr. Bob guy?" :) ha ha
Not until we were redirected did I go to social-babble, and then it DID seem scary, cause I had been used to our little effexor neighborhood where I recognized the 'neighbors', and in social all of a sudden it was lots of different topics all at once by strangers. It didn't seem as safe.
Before this, I pretty much only did email, ebay and free cell on our computer! So please keep in mind that many of us who are starting to be treated for all these things, for us this psychiatric stuff is a whole new scary world and lots of us are coming here with no idea how these chat rooms or posting rooms, or whatever they are called, work! Yankeegirl
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 23:33:39
In reply to Re: being scared to go to new places, posted by yankeegirl on July 28, 2003, at 1:31:52
> The way I got to Psycho-Babble was to do a search on Effexor and I clicked on "Anyone having success...) and a HUGE page opened up all about Effexor. I never went anywhere else on your site. I just read Effexor posts for 3 weeks before registering. So I had no context that the Effexor questions were one of many different posts about different drugs at a place called P-B.
Thanks, it's interesting to hear what your experience was like. That Effexor thread is like a little mini-board all by itself...
> Not until we were redirected did I go to social-babble, and then it DID seem scary, cause I had been used to our little effexor neighborhood where I recognized the 'neighbors', and in social all of a sudden it was lots of different topics all at once by strangers. It didn't seem as safe.
Well, wasn't the Effexor thread all strangers at first, too? But posting on more or less the same topic, that's certainly true.
> please keep in mind that ... lots of us are coming here with no idea how these chat rooms or posting rooms, or whatever they are called, work!
Don't worry, I'm aware. :-) If you have any questions, just ask. Sorry again it was scary.
Bob
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