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Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2002, at 11:40:14
[Posted by ItsHowdyDudyTime on December 13, 2002, at 21:15:37
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> > I get SSD for bipolar and panic disorders- actually my shrink told me the anxiety spectrum has the greatest number of people on SSD than any other psychiatric disorder. That being said, I went through Alsup? I think?, a group of attornies who specialize in SSD. My children collect 1/2 of my payment because they are under 18. If you have worked and paid into social security then your payment would be based on your earnings if you are over 18- it varies considerably. I worked for over 12 years and have proven quite treatment resistant, I am grateful that I have this money to care for myself and family until I am able to work and don't feel guilty in the least. best of luck and any other questions please feel free to ask, judy
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> Judy, Im not so sure I agree with your Pdoc's opinion. I have read the opposite, that schizophrenia makes up the larges subgroup of SS disability recipients. I personally would be more inclined to believe this, as schizophrenia is the most severe and disabling mental illness and causes the most cognitive disruption. Severe cognitive deterioration as in schizophrenia makes even the most menial employment very difficult, unless properly medicated. And even when properly medicated sometimes employment is difficult in schizophrenia. Each case is different, but in general its a severe disease with severe consequences.
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> A s far as getting SS disability for social anxiety disorder, Id be rather skeptical of that. Social Anxiety disorder isnt even an Axis one psychiatric disorder, its an Axis 2 disorder (personality disorder). Im not belittling the problem its causing you, but comparing social anxiety disorder to say, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia is like comparing apples to oranges. Id be very skeptical anyone would get any government benefits for an Axis 2 personality disorder like social anxiety disorder.
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Posted by judy1 on December 14, 2002, at 23:10:58
In reply to Re: Disability social anxiety « ItsHowdyDudyTime, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2002, at 11:40:14
I agree with you that schizophrenia is probably the most debilitating disorder, even more so than bipolar (simply because there are usually remissions). I think he was referring to pure numbers, is it 5-6% of the population that has panic/anxiety versus 1 or 2% with schizophrenia? Please correct me if I'm wrong. For someone like me who suffers from both bipolar and panic, quite honestly during my really agoraphobic periods I am more debilitated then when manic or depressed. I realize SA is an axis 2, just wanted to emphasize that personality disorders (and as a former patient with borderline who still has many of the traits) can be pretty damn bad and warrent SSD. Take care, judy
Posted by judy1 on December 14, 2002, at 23:18:35
In reply to Re: Disability social anxiety « ItsHowdyDudyTime, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2002, at 11:40:14
Posted by oracle on December 15, 2002, at 1:54:16
In reply to Re: Disability social anxiety « ItsHowdyDudyTime » Dr. Bob, posted by judy1 on December 14, 2002, at 23:10:58
Disibility is awarded and based on the degree of
dysfunction whatever condition causes a person
in essencial life functions.
As it should be. While in schizophrenia it is very likely most will will have significant
dysfunction, amoung the other disorders it really
varies, person to person.To me, asking "will they give disability for x condition" is asking the wrong question.
Here in the states, last time I checked, the max was ~ $667/month, medicare, plus some other benifits. Not a whole lot, esp. if you will be on disability for life.
Posted by judy1 on December 15, 2002, at 13:10:34
In reply to Re: Disability social anxiety « ItsHowdyDudyTime, posted by oracle on December 15, 2002, at 1:54:16
Hi Oracle,
Because I had a fairly high-paying job for a dozen years, my SSD is closer to $1800 with my children receiving half- I think the maximum is in the $2000s depending on what your earnings were and future potential earnings will be. Of course this varies considerably, the SSA puts out a yearly update on what your earnings would be if you went on SS (usually through retirement), but that is what you would get through disability. There are other programs such as Medicaid for those who don't qualify for SSD and have low family income. I agree 100% that a specific condition should not determine whether you get SSD, but rather your degree of disability. There are several well publicized physicians practicing with schizophrenia along with high functioning people with bipolar disorder (I was for many years), but there are people with anxiety disorder and/or depression who can't leave their bedroom (been there too). For those considering going this route- make sure your pdoc is supportive and has experience with the forms- it goes a lot quicker. Take care, Judy
Posted by oracle on December 15, 2002, at 23:39:16
In reply to Re: Disability social anxiety « ItsHowdyDudyTime » oracle, posted by judy1 on December 15, 2002, at 13:10:34
I was talking about individual benefit, so it would seem to have gone up to about $1,000.
Benifit is always based on earnings paid into SS,
first. If that does not qualify you, SSDI kicks in. SSDI is very important for those who have never worked.The good news is that the rules and law changed some time ago, and it is easier to get off SS disibility without fear of not being able to get back on. More back to work time is allowed and it is easier to get back on disibility if work did not work out. Many, under the old system, who wanted to try work again felt trapped. Going to work ment possible loss of future benifits if they again could not work.
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