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Posted by ShelliR on December 4, 2002, at 0:15:44
Hey Gabs,
This is something you said on the administration board:
< I don't think (if it was a concern anyway)
< Knowing him I could ever feel someone was < 'two faced" if he was welcomed back as
< warmly as IAre you are saying that you would be fine if the same people who are supporting you, also support Scott when he comes back?
It's a little unclear. I only bring it up because I am somewhat uneasy that he is not here also, to test out his support. And although he created that situation for himself, it is still awkward.
I don't need to know what happened between you and Scott. But at this point I'm assuming that Scott's post was NOT a total and complete lie. I am reading that into *your* post: that somewhere your truth and his truth *do* overlap, and it is not as clear as Gabby is "innocent" of all Scott's accusations and Scott is "guilty" of making up all lies, that in no way are related to anything that happened between the two of you.
I don't know if you feel comfortable confirming or denying my assumptions. I think if my assumptions *are* true, then it would be easier to also offer Scott support when he returns to the board. Support maybe for being hurt, because that is often where the seeds for such anger and exaggeration begin.
I realize that this post is not very clear, but I am trying to prepare for Scott's return without reopening the entire wound.
On the other hand, if this reopens it too much for you, I'll totally understand a pass as a response.
Shelli
Posted by gabbix2 on December 4, 2002, at 14:26:15
In reply to Guilt vs Innocence - Gabbix, posted by ShelliR on December 4, 2002, at 0:15:44
ShelliR, I really appreciate your asking.
Of course its up to everyone how they react regardless, but if it mattered to anyone What I meant was, that If anyone supported me, and then supported Mr. Scott I wouldn't in any way, think hey... but you were on MY side.
Cause this is Psycho babble, and its for support, we all manifest our ilnesses in different ways its not about 'personal side taking'
When I was wacky after my effexor withdrawl, I was never threatening or insulting but certainly not grounded in reality, Mr. Scott was incredibly understanding and forgiving.
I'd asked dr. Bob to edit the threads, which he has and I asked him to remove what I knew to be absolutly false. The rest are things that may have happened but not with any malicious intention. I know that from the bottom of my heart, but I also know that I can't prove intentions.
Posted by gabbix2 on December 5, 2002, at 0:19:35
In reply to Re: Guilt vs Innocence - Gabbix, posted by gabbix2 on December 4, 2002, at 14:26:15
Actually I re-read the edited posts, and much of the blantantly untrue info, which is most of it, is still there. Dr. Bob gave him his reasons for this, which from a research viewpoint I think is reasonable.
What I'd meant by saying
"by knowing him, I would want him to be welcomed as I was' didn't mean to infer that there was a lot of truth in what he'd said just that I know so much of the good too.
And i.m o. this recent "stuff' was way out of character
Posted by ShelliR on December 5, 2002, at 12:47:17
In reply to Addendum, posted by gabbix2 on December 5, 2002, at 0:19:35
Thanks, Gabby.
I'm glad you added that because when I went back and looked at the post, there wasn't very much taken out. So I did infer that what was said was mostly truth.
I would have thought that feelings would have come before "research" issues since this is a board for support. But whatever, I'm glad you cleared that up.
Shelli
Posted by gabbix2 on December 5, 2002, at 15:36:51
In reply to Re: Addendum » gabbix2, posted by ShelliR on December 5, 2002, at 12:47:17
Yeah, I'm really glad I re-read those too!
Yikes.I'm pretty sure you didn't want to get into a whole discussion about the 'research' issue.
But I have to say, though I'm still having a rough time with the personal stuff. In this case *I think* I kind of understand idea behind leaving those things up. Though perhaps its only because the outcome was positive for me.At first I was mortified by what had been said, and angry too. After all the admin posts though,
It didn't seem so important, because I didn't realize before how much support there was for me as a person, until things were really put to the test. Maybe I'm thick that way, but I didn't.
I knew if I was suicidal there would be support, but never in this kind of situation.And the variety of support too, the humor, never did I think I could laugh about being called ugly! Nor did I think someone would notice or bother to find out that I don't use expressions like Pansy-Ass, or that I would likely know how to spell better than Alpha Male.
I could go on and on. It taught me a lot.I'm not sure though if I would feel the same had the research results had added more pain :0
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