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Posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 20:42:59
In reply to Thank you Dinah 1 » Dinah1, posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 20:34:02
Friends,
I do not know the person that is explaining to you the basics of our constitution. But all he is explaining to you is the first and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
I believe in freedom of speech and have no problems with anyone posting anything on this bord. I am not advocating blocking anyone for their speech. What am asking for, though, is to be allowed equal rights to speak. People tell of their experiance with their theripists, there pdocs, their mothers, their bowel movements, their sex lives,and their battles with themselves.
What I have been telling you is what I experianced. I did enter the City of Peace. I did have my life changed to a whole new creature. I did overcome.
Lou
Posted by ALII on May 22, 2002, at 20:55:54
In reply to Lou responds (more), posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 20:42:59
> Friends,
> I do not know the person that is explaining to you the basics of our constitution. But all he is explaining to you is the first and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
> I believe in freedom of speech and have no problems with anyone posting anything on this bord. I am not advocating blocking anyone for their speech. What am asking for, though, is to be allowed equal rights to speak. People tell of their experiance with their theripists, there pdocs, their mothers, their bowel movements, their sex lives,and their battles with themselves.
> What I have been telling you is what I experianced. I did enter the City of Peace. I did have my life changed to a whole new creature. I did overcome.
> LouLou,
I respect your right to post here as much as any poster of this forum.
You are very correct in your above statement>>>What am asking for, though, is to be allowed equal rights to speak. People tell of their experiance with their theripists, there pdocs, their mothers, their bowel movements, their sex lives,and their battles with themselves. <<<<
however each of those topics does not enter into every post. I am now posting to you to let you know that the constant sense I perceive in your tellings of your path is that you aren't interested truly in allowing others to find their own way.So far I am only hearing the city of peace from your lips. Please allow others their paths no matter how much it pains you.
Namaste,
Alii
Posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 20:58:23
In reply to I'm certain Lou abhors all injustice (nm) » kiddo, posted by Dinah1 on May 22, 2002, at 20:26:18
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 21:17:15
In reply to AlIi to Lou, posted by ALII on May 22, 2002, at 20:55:54
Alli,
The path to the City of Peace has 7 Gates. We all have the keys to those Gates. I am telling what I experianced and how I overcame depression and addiction. What I experianced actually happend to me. I have met others throughout the world that have had similar experiances. You see, most people are waiting for God to return to Earth. I have found out that God never left the Earth. He is here now. Standing next to you. You can be in Him and He can be in you,now! When I left the City of Peace, the Rider said to me, "Lo ,I am with you always, even to the end ..." You can all have God within you, now. You will be living in a different plane, a higher plane. You will no longer be shakled to your affliction. You will be free. But first you must know what you need to be free from, for your affliction is just the symptom of the slavery that we are in untill we are freed. You can be freed by knowing the truth. And that is what the Road to the Crown of Life is about. It is about being free from 3 things. I have been trying to tell those 3 things. But it can not be told in one sitting. Because it is a series of Gates that one goes through to get to the City of Peace. I have yet to explain the last 2 Gates. But those 3 things can be known now.
Lou
Posted by ALII on May 22, 2002, at 21:30:49
In reply to Lou to Alli » ALII, posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 21:17:15
> Alli,
> The path to the City of Peace has 7 Gates. We all have the keys to those Gates. I am telling what I experianced and how I overcame depression and addiction. What I experianced actually happend to me. I have met others throughout the world that have had similar experiances. You see, most people are waiting for God to return to Earth. I have found out that God never left the Earth. He is here now. Standing next to you. You can be in Him and He can be in you,now! When I left the City of Peace, the Rider said to me, "Lo ,I am with you always, even to the end ..." You can all have God within you, now. You will be living in a different plane, a higher plane. You will no longer be shakled to your affliction. You will be free. But first you must know what you need to be free from, for your affliction is just the symptom of the slavery that we are in untill we are freed. You can be freed by knowing the truth. And that is what the Road to the Crown of Life is about. It is about being free from 3 things. I have been trying to tell those 3 things. But it can not be told in one sitting. Because it is a series of Gates that one goes through to get to the City of Peace. I have yet to explain the last 2 Gates. But those 3 things can be known now.
> LouLou,
I respectfully decline the ending to your story.
Humbly bowing out and wishing you would extend same courtesy to others,
Alii
Posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 22:48:29
In reply to No thank you » Lou Pilder, posted by ALII on May 22, 2002, at 21:30:49
This has gotten out of hand!!!
I formally declare kid_a as my attorney in this case, should I need one, the lovely Ctl Alt n Delete as my stylist, and kiddo as my personal manager.
Should I be needed further, please consult the Mount Olympus Directory under "Goddess of 'Em All" and leave a message at the beep.
:)
- kk
Posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 22:50:59
In reply to Holy...crocus, Batman!!!, posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 22:48:29
Just what would that job entail, how much is the pay, and why aren't you in chat right now :-)
Kiddo
Posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 22:53:24
In reply to Personal Manager » krazy kat, posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 22:50:59
aren't you sleeping right now? ;)
Posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 22:56:36
In reply to o.k. i'll come, but hubby will be mad. why..., posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 22:53:24
yes, but don't tell kiddo, this is her evil twin >:-)
Posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 23:03:49
In reply to why...., posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 22:56:36
Krazy posts... ;)
Posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 23:05:45
In reply to oh, that's what i need after all these..., posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 23:03:49
Just fulfilling my goal in life, :-)
Posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 23:15:13
In reply to Krazy Posts..., posted by kiddo on May 22, 2002, at 23:05:45
kiddo, i am not going to make it. i am drifting away... very, very tired. i'm sorry. i'll make sure to be available sometime tomorrow...
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 22, 2002, at 23:42:17
In reply to Re: FYI » kid_A, posted by Ron Hill on May 22, 2002, at 15:33:44
> Due to the fact that the University of Chicago receives federal (US) grant monies, it is illegal to discriminate against public speech on this site solely due to the fact that the speech happens to be religious in nature...
Further posts about federal monies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2002, at 2:05:39
In reply to AlIi to Lou, posted by ALII on May 22, 2002, at 20:55:54
> I respect your right to post here as much as any poster of this forum...
Discussion about posting policies, or complaints about posts, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020510/msgs/5164.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by IsoM on May 23, 2002, at 2:18:23
In reply to Holy...crocus, Batman!!!, posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 22:48:29
KK, can I be your animal 'wrangler' like you see posted on the credits at the end of the movie? I promise to be very gentle 'wrangling' your kitty.
Posted by Zo on May 23, 2002, at 5:51:42
In reply to Re: Holy...crocus, Batman!!! » krazy kat, posted by IsoM on May 23, 2002, at 2:18:23
Posted by krazy kat on May 23, 2002, at 10:24:16
In reply to Re: Holy...crocus, Batman!!! » krazy kat, posted by IsoM on May 23, 2002, at 2:18:23
sounds purrfect!
Posted by krazy kat on May 23, 2002, at 10:24:49
In reply to Re: Oh, sure. The nights I don't come on. (nm), posted by Zo on May 23, 2002, at 5:51:42
i'd like your opinion on this sometime, zo.
Posted by kid47 on May 23, 2002, at 13:17:58
In reply to Lou responds (more), posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2002, at 20:42:59
Jeeez. If you don't like Lou's posts, don't read them for crying out loud. As long as the spirit & intent of a post is not malicious or defamatory (is that a word?) or blatantly hateful, then it should be allowed. Dr. Bob has soul discretion as to the appropriateness of a post & I am happy to leave it at that. Although I don't always agree with his decisions on such matters, I believe a ruling benevolent dictator is the only way a sight like this can function. With such diversity & wayward brain chemistry participating at this site, I think an air of acceptance & understanding has to be the rule. I think a "newbie" would be more put off by a perception of discord than any one posters writing. IMHO
kid 47 (I'm actually 49 now)
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 23, 2002, at 13:22:33
In reply to Much to do about nothing, posted by kid47 on May 23, 2002, at 13:17:58
Kid 47,
Thank you for your immense vison in this matter. For you can see beyond the surface and want to advance the cause of truth.
Thanks again,
Lou
Posted by Katt on May 23, 2002, at 14:47:24
In reply to Thank you Kid47 » kid47, posted by Lou Pilder on May 23, 2002, at 13:22:33
definitely needs mental help
Posted by kid_A on May 23, 2002, at 15:08:39
In reply to Thank you Kid47 » kid47, posted by Lou Pilder on May 23, 2002, at 13:22:33
Posted by Zo on May 24, 2002, at 3:21:15
In reply to Re: Oh, sure. The nights I don't come on. » Zo, posted by krazy kat on May 23, 2002, at 10:24:49
Posted by Racquel on May 30, 2002, at 3:47:18
In reply to Lou - I'm asking Dr. Bob to review two things..., posted by krazy kat on May 22, 2002, at 15:07:47
> 1. The increase in your posts re: the abuse/addiction, etc. of meds even when prescribed for valid uses such as the illnesses the people on this site suffer from.
>
> 2. Your continued "preaching". I cannot for the life of me see what is different re: your posts as they swerve into continuous religious territory and Sal's comments that got him banned, a couple of times I believe. In fact his were less intrusive - they tended to concern an organization, not a belief.
>
> I just wanted you to know I am doing this. Hopefully you will not come back with "It's my right", etc., etc. It's Dr. Bob's decision, obviously, but I don't Think it is your right here.
>
> I truly Believe you are becoming dangerous to the board, dangerous to people whose very lives may depend on the meds that they take. Dangerous to those who are feeling weak and depressed because of their mental illness, and who may seek solace SOLEY in religion, rather than approaching it from all angles, including a Dr.'s opinion.
>
> I would like it if we all, especially myself, would just ignore you, but that doesn't happen. You occasionally post witty and insightful, non-crown threads, and I'm GUESSING that folks hope it's a sign you're getting off your high white horse.
>
> Such is not the case.
>
> - kk
>
> p.s. I mean no disrespect at all to Christians, which is still what I would call Lou based on his "teachings". I would love to have a discussion about religion here, but have finally realized it's not the place, except in the broadest terms, i.e. terms of faith, meditation/prayer, spirituality, or non-spirituality. And even that is tricky.Hi Everyone,
I don't visit this site regularly, but I have posted things on the original Psycho-Babble board in the past and have been helped tremendously by several people. I was so impressed how genuinely helpful, concerned, and knowledgeable everyone was. I visited the Psycho-babble-Religion board for the first time tonight, and as I expected, I think that this site does more to harm people than help them. I am a very devout Christian; I also suffer from clinical depression. I thank God every day for saving my life through my wonderful psychiatrist. I've been on Wellbutrin for four years with tremendous success. I also occasionally take Xanax for anxiety (as you probably know, Wellbutrin can sometimes increase anxiety), and Ambien once in awhile for times when I have insomnia. I know for a fact that without this medication, I would be either in the pit of hell called depression or dead from suicide. So many people have a misconception about what Christians believe, and I just wanted you to know that NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING Lou said pertains to or represents Christianity in any way!! I was mortified by his posts (if you're reading this, Lou, I apologize for being so blunt). Depression, like cancer or diabetes, doesn't discriminate; it can strike anyone regardless of what religion they are. It is an ILLNESS that can be managed most of the time by a wonderful thing called medication. I guess I just wanted to dispell any misconceptions people may have about what Christians believe regarding this matter. As for this board, I don't think a message board devoted to the very broad term "Religion" is in synch with this web site, which is mental health. Yes, my faith affects every aspect of my life, including my mental health. However, as some of these posts indicate, it is a very sensitive subject that can be discussed in a better arena (Like a religious web site. There are thousands!) Anyway, thanks for "listening." Take care. Racquel
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 31, 2002, at 3:21:28
In reply to Re: Lou - I'm asking Dr. Bob to review two things..., posted by Racquel on May 30, 2002, at 3:47:18
> As for this board, I don't think a message board devoted to the very broad term "Religion" is in synch with this web site, which is mental health...
Opinions about the new board should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020510/msgs/5412.html
Thanks,
Bob
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