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Posted by ST on March 12, 2002, at 5:27:55
In reply to Lo tells you why he must leave Psycho-Babble, posted by Lou Pilder on March 11, 2002, at 19:18:52
Lou,
No one is ridiculing you or slamming the door shut. You've changed your way in telling your story of the Crown of Life so that it is easier for us to absorb. (Before, you were accusatory of anyone with different views and a bit preachy, if you don't mind me saying...) I think many people want to hear more. Please go on.
ST
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 12, 2002, at 6:02:42
In reply to Re: Lo tells you why he must leave Psycho-Babble » Lou Pilder, posted by ST on March 12, 2002, at 5:27:55
Friends;
No none has done any of those things on this thread for it was agreed that I would condense and others would not interrupt. The problems happenend on other threads.
But I must have freedom in order to write what happened at the 6th and 7th Gate on the Road to the Crown of Life. I do not even have the freedom to be me on this board. I am just like you and suffer the same afflictions as you. I have OCD. I have depression. I hear things. I have unusuall excitement.I have memory lapse. I have been to the psych ward. I have been to the Vally of the Shadow of Death. AndI have seen the comming of the Glory of the Lord. I want all of you to see that comming. But I must be free to tell you without the fear of being what I am.
You have been the pillars of this board. You have held up many that are fallen. And I believe that you are sincerer in wanting me to continue with the Road that leads to the Crown of Life.
Now you have seen that the pillars in my life are Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. They peer out on all of my posts. They have not died for they live in our hearts. They recieved the Crown of Life. They overcame. I want all of you to overcome.
Now if I am to return to tis board then I must have the following:
a)That Dr. Bob immmediatly suspend the "pressue" rule in his civility rules untill they are revised to accomodate the afflictions that we all have.
b) That Dr. Bob forgive all those that are under a block and allow them to return to fellowship with the others on this board immediatly.
I would like to finish the Road, for it is the 6th and 7th Gate that lead you to the Truth that will set you free.
Lou
Posted by trouble on March 12, 2002, at 7:06:19
In reply to Lou answers his friends » ST, posted by Lou Pilder on March 12, 2002, at 6:02:42
> Friends;
> if I am to return to tis board then I must have the following:
> a)That Dr. Bob immmediatly suspend the "pressue" rule in his civility rules untill they are revised to accomodate the afflictions that we all have.
> b) That Dr. Bob forgive all those that are under a block and allow them to return to fellowship with the others on this board immediatly.
Well Lou, it certainly sounds like you are ablaze w/the activist fire of your heroes MLK and Old Hickory. As an old-school radical myself I can't help but chuckle in recognition of my own often far-reaching advocacy. I always mean well, as do you.If you only knew how dear you are, how sturdy AND fragile, both guarded AND exposed, and not quite so black OR white as I've seen in the archives.
I'd just really hate to see your continued participation depend solely on the wit or whimsy of a beaurocratic decision. You give Dr. Bob so much power, Lou.
Anyway, I'm glad to see you posting today, hope you stick aroundtrouble
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 12, 2002, at 7:18:25
In reply to Re: Lou answers his friends, posted by trouble on March 12, 2002, at 7:06:19
Trouble
It is not I that has been speaking here. It is those that live in me. Can you believe that someone can dwell in you?
When I left the City of Peace I heard the Rider say, "I will not leave you comfortless.I will come to you. Because I live, you shall also live. And you shall know that I am in my Father and you are in me and I am in you."
"and if any one love me, he shall be loved by my Father and we will come into him and make our abode with him."
Lou
Posted by ST on March 13, 2002, at 6:02:20
In reply to Lou answers his friends » ST, posted by Lou Pilder on March 12, 2002, at 6:02:42
Lou,
Dr. Bob will not suspend any kind of pressure rule, I'm sure. Besides, I don't really think you've been pressuring people lately. As for those who are blocked, they can still read about your experience and possibly gain from it. I think trouble brings up a good point: you give Dr. Bob too much power. He simply wants us all to be civil to each other. I think you can continue your story without fear of his intervention as long as you focus on simply sharing what you know. Share it and hope others will follow. Beyond that, there is nothing to do. And sharing what you've experienced is huge. I'm a big advocate of everyone speaking their mind here and I'd love you to continue to do so. I hope you don't leave.
Sarah> Friends;
> No none has done any of those things on this thread for it was agreed that I would condense and others would not interrupt. The problems happenend on other threads.
> But I must have freedom in order to write what happened at the 6th and 7th Gate on the Road to the Crown of Life. I do not even have the freedom to be me on this board. I am just like you and suffer the same afflictions as you. I have OCD. I have depression. I hear things. I have unusuall excitement.I have memory lapse. I have been to the psych ward. I have been to the Vally of the Shadow of Death. AndI have seen the comming of the Glory of the Lord. I want all of you to see that comming. But I must be free to tell you without the fear of being what I am.
> You have been the pillars of this board. You have held up many that are fallen. And I believe that you are sincerer in wanting me to continue with the Road that leads to the Crown of Life.
> Now you have seen that the pillars in my life are Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. They peer out on all of my posts. They have not died for they live in our hearts. They recieved the Crown of Life. They overcame. I want all of you to overcome.
> Now if I am to return to tis board then I must have the following:
> a)That Dr. Bob immmediatly suspend the "pressue" rule in his civility rules untill they are revised to accomodate the afflictions that we all have.
> b) That Dr. Bob forgive all those that are under a block and allow them to return to fellowship with the others on this board immediatly.
> I would like to finish the Road, for it is the 6th and 7th Gate that lead you to the Truth that will set you free.
> Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 7:50:34
In reply to Re: Lou answers his friends, posted by ST on March 13, 2002, at 6:02:20
ST;
I would like to finish the Road. But there are forces working against me on this board that freeze my initiative to write. I am threatenened with a 4 week expulsion if I "presssure". Now , in a sense, any sentence could be construed to constitute "pressure". So I can not speak at all. It is called the "chilling effect" and is a violation of our right to freedom of speech. But we do not have our rights on this board. So I have tried to tell what I have experianced but with the spector of being banished for 4 weeks walking behind me, I have a fear that whatever I say will be deemed as "pressure". Now you admit that I am not pressuring anyone. And I am not. And you know that other people speak through me.
Now the thought is that we must give up our rights. Many have tried to ligitamise our giving up our rights. But I remember a great American that spoke about giving up their rights in 1775. He was speaking to the house before the Declaration if Independance and he said,
"What is it that gentleman wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH!"
This was spoken by Patric Henry in 1775.
Lou
Posted by beardedlady on March 13, 2002, at 9:14:14
In reply to Re: Lou answers his friends » ST, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 7:50:34
> I would like to finish the Road. But there are forces working against me on this board that freeze my initiative to write. I am threatenened with a 4 week expulsion if I "presssure". Now , in a sense, any sentence could be construed to constitute "pressure".\
C'mon, Lou. You know the difference between pressuring someone and telling a story. The two things have little to with one another in your case. Just tell your story.
Besides, who will you be punishing? It's a story you need to tell, so why punish yourself by not doing it out of the fear of getting punished for doing it?
beardy : )>
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 10:04:18
In reply to Re: Lou answers his friends, posted by beardedlady on March 13, 2002, at 9:14:14
Ladyfriend;
I can not referr to you as a beardedlady. I will call you ladyfriend.
When I was on the Road that leads to the Crown of Life I saw a light. That light led me out of my darkness. I want to tell you about that light, but I can not tell you if there is the threat to turn off the light. I must have the unobscured freedom to write about the light so that it will come through.
When I was in the City of Peace the Rider said to me,
"--light is come into the world,----"
I, Lou , saw that light of Glory. And I remember as a child when I read a Psalm that said,
" The Lord is my light and my salvation;
Whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the strengh of my life;
Of whom shall I be afraid?"
Lou
Posted by Lini on March 13, 2002, at 12:41:11
In reply to Lou answers ladyfriend » beardedlady, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 10:04:18
Lou - it does seem kinda silly that you need absolute freedom to tell others about absolute freedom, but I guess you need what you need.
It seems like everyone is having issues with this board, feeling like things are mind games or too heavily censored, that they aren't supported and that they have to leave.
Since I don't feel this way, I am wondering what people want to have happen that could make it better? Cause I for one would be willing to do it.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 13:02:34
In reply to Mass Exodus, posted by Lini on March 13, 2002, at 12:41:11
Lini;
It is good to hear from you again. Your question is a vey valid question andI wantto answer your question.
I can only speak for myself. But once I was slave and now I am free. Once I was manicled to lies. Once I was blinded by darkness. Once I hd no hope.
I want to tell you how was unshakled. I want to tell you how I was led out of my darkness and into a marvelous light. I want to tell you how I became free.
I believe that ther are people here that want to be free. I believe that they want to be led to a promised land. I believe that there are people reading this right now that are looking for the waters of gloom and despair to part and allow them to escape addiction and depression. I believe that here are pople here that will overcome and sing a new song. I believe that they will sing the old slavery song from the South which went, "Free at last, Free at last, God almighty! I am free at last."
Ibeliev that thereis a way for us all to be fre, but I must have the freedom to tell it.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 13:13:35
In reply to Mass Exodus, posted by Lini on March 13, 2002, at 12:41:11
Lini;
You asked what people want to have hapen. I want to tell you what I want to have happpen.
We live in 2002. But I live in 1776 and 1865 when the people that gave us our freedom died to give it to us. What I want to have happen on this board is to go back in time and remeber those that died for our freedom and show them that they did not die in vain. I believe that Abraham Lincoln is warching this board and that he is saying,"-- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Lou
Posted by Lini on March 13, 2002, at 13:21:18
In reply to What Lou wants to have happen » Lini, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 13:13:35
Well, Lou, since we can't go back in time (and as an African-American, I really don't want to)I would just like to know what people on this board are expecting of this board, recognizing that it is a MODERATED board used for research and support.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 13:44:01
In reply to Re: What Lou wants to have happen, posted by Lini on March 13, 2002, at 13:21:18
Lini;
You have mentioned that the creed o Psycho-Babble is "support". I want to tell the people here about the support that I have found. But I must have the freedoms that this country stands for, the creed of America, which ,I contend, will enable us to get that support. I believe,to answer your question, that by allowing freedom of speech on this board that the creed of Psycho-Babble will be furthered. So you say, "what should we have done?" . My answer is to go back in time and examine those that were before us and follow their quest for freedom. They died so that me and you can be free today. I would also not like to go back in time to live in those times. For I have felt the lash of descrimination also. My ancestors were enslaved. I am aking that we go back in time in our hearts to remember that those that died to give us freedom did not die in vain.
Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 13, 2002, at 18:14:08
In reply to Re: Lou answers his friends » ST, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 7:50:34
> I would like to finish the Road. But there are forces working against me on this board that freeze my initiative to write. I am threatenened with a 4 week expulsion if I "presssure". Now , in a sense, any sentence could be construed to constitute "pressure". So I can not speak at all. It is called the "chilling effect" and is a violation of our right to freedom of speech. But we do not have our rights on this board.
I'm glad you're thinking twice about what you post, but I'm sorry you're finding it chilling.
> Now the thought is that we must give up our rights. Many have tried to ligitamise our giving up our rights. But I remember a great American that spoke about giving up their rights in 1775. He was speaking to the house before the Declaration if Independance and he said,
> "What is it that gentleman wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH!"
> This was spoken by Patric Henry in 1775.Would he have said it was OK to slander others? Would he have said people shouldn't give up that "right"?
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 20:19:22
In reply to Re: freedom of speech, posted by Dr. Bob on March 13, 2002, at 18:14:08
Dr. Bob;
To answer your question, I would have to say that I do not know what he would say. But here is what he did say i 1775:
"No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentleman who have just addressed the house. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and thearefor, I hope it would not be thought disrespectful to those gentleman if, entertaining as I do of opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the house is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part. I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnatude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at the truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and an act of disloyalty toword the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 20:31:13
In reply to Re: freedom of speech, posted by Dr. Bob on March 13, 2002, at 18:14:08
Dr. Bob;
I have just given what Patric Henry did say in 1775. He said that there was no time for ceremony:
Dr. Bob, there is no time here for you to keep me from speaking freely. The situation here is also one of freedom or slavery. People here are slaves to addictive drugs. They need to be freed. People here are slaves to depression. They need to be freed.
I can not remain silent or I would be guilty of treason to my God. I must be allowed to tell the people that want to be free from their drugs how to overcome and break the shakles of addiction and depression. I can only do that if I have the freedom to say what I want to say without the fear of your blocking. Change your policy on freedom of speech right now. there is no time for cerimony. Let my people go.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 21:37:42
In reply to Lou answers Dr. Bob » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 20:31:13
Dr. Bob;
Patric Henry did say in 1775:
"--in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at the truth."
What could be more than the "magnitude" here? I see people who are desparate. I see people that have lost hope. I see people that are crying out for help. Their drugs have failed. Their theripists have failed. Their psychiatrists have failed. What is left for them to try?
You have failed me , Dr. Bob. Instead of allowing me to speak freely, you haver allowed others to slander, ridicule and debase me. You allowed a person to impersonate a lisenced professional and at the same time, you slandered me by labeling me a "pressurer". I am not a "pressurer" . Your attempt to label me as such was a transparent attempt to allow the person that was giving false credentials to escape his blocking. He is the one that should have been blocked and his behavior , to me, constitutes, "harming the integrety of the board". He apologised, and I forgave him and I forgive you for your obvious disregard for "equal protection."
Dr. Bob, when I was at the City of Peace, I asked the Rider with many Crowns how many times one should forgive another. Should I forgive them 7 times? He said, "70 times 7." If we are going to give support here, then we must all forgive and your blocking of people is , to me, a violation of the rights of the people on this board for they are disabled. They can not live up to the impossible standards that you have imposed on them. You want them to make bricks without straw.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 14, 2002, at 7:02:23
In reply to Lou answers ladyfriend » beardedlady, posted by Lou Pilder on March 13, 2002, at 10:04:18
Friends;
On the Road to the 6th Gate I somehow wandered off the Road and came to an immense battlefied. There were men dyeng on all sides of me. there were thousands of men laying dead on the ground.Some wore blue and some wore grey. I ducked down to avoid the bulllets. There was a man in grey next to me. He said," our position is lost, we must retreat. He got up on a white horse and told me to jump on. "What is your name?"he said. My name is Lou, I said. "My name is Lee" he said. We went into the woods and came to a rest. "Where are we?" I said. "Pennslyvania" he said. I asked him what was happening and he said, "People are dying for freedom. The North is dyeing for freedom and the South is dying for their freedom. This is insane ,isn't it Lou?" I asked him why he was fighting and he said, "I don't care about any of this. I am just a soldier and my home is in Virginia and if it was in New Hampshire I would be fighting for the North. But people must die to have freedom". I asked him to repeat that. He said, "Yes, Lou, people must die for others to have freedom. Someone must die so that you can be free." "Someone must die so that I can be free?, Lee" "That's right ,Lou. Someone must die so that you can be free.
He had the most beutifull pistol at his side. It had grips made of pearl and his uniform was impeccibly tailored. His stature could be used to model a sculpture. I asked him how I could get back to the Road and he told me to hold his gun in my hand for a minuete. While I was holding the gun, I asked him for his last name. He said," Lee is my last name. My name is Robert Lee, Robert E. Lee.
I,Lou experianced this. He said, "Someone must die so that you can be free." Someone did die so that we could all be free. Someone vollenteered to die for us so that we could be free. My friends, I may be forced to leave this board and if that happens,remember the history of the world. Look at all the wars and how people died so that others could be free. There is somone that died so that you can be free. If I am gone from this board I am telling you that I was found by someone that died so that I could be free. And if the torch of freedom falls from my hands, I want you to pick it up so that it shines to others. If I am forced to leave this board, find the one that died to make you free.
Lou
Posted by Krazy Kat on March 14, 2002, at 12:59:47
In reply to Lou continues in spite of his fear of being blocke, posted by Lou Pilder on March 14, 2002, at 7:02:23
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 15, 2002, at 10:34:33
In reply to Lou-I'll say one thing - you're persistent. :) (nm), posted by Krazy Kat on March 14, 2002, at 12:59:47
Friends,
After I left the general, I found myself in Yankee stadium. It was because that I was in the war between the "Rebs" and the "Yankees."
It was the 4th of July. Independence Day. It was 1939. There were 70,000 fans packed into the stadium and the Yankees were going to battle their opponant. And there was a man in front of a microphone on the field. There was a peanut and cracker-jack vendor standing next to me. I asked the vendor what was happening. The vendor said," He is one of the greatest players of all time and he was told that he had a disease that would take his life soon an he must retirer for he is disabled and can not play anymore." Then the player began to speak into the microphone to the immmense crowd.
" For the past two weeks you have been reading about a bad break that I got. Yet today, I consider myself to be the luckiest man on the face of the earth."
I was given a box of cracker jacks by the vendor and got the prize inside. It was a pearl.
I, Lou, experianced this. That man was told that he would die soon. But he considered himself to be the "luckiest man on the face of the earth."
Friends, I may be forced to leave this board soon. If so, examine yourself and see if you could considered yourself to be "the luckiest man on the face earth" if you were given a short time to live.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 17, 2002, at 7:51:32
In reply to Lou-I'll say one thing - you're persistent. :) (nm), posted by Krazy Kat on March 14, 2002, at 12:59:47
Friends;
On the Road to the 6th Gate Jerry asks the Rider, " Can we have more of that food (bread) that you gave us at the Garden?". The Rider stopped and said," You ate the bread and your bodies were filled. Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which I will give you. My Father gives you the true bread from heaven. For the Bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." Then Abby said, "Give us this bread always." Then the Rider said to us, " I am the bread of life. He who comes to me shall never hunger and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. All that the Father gives to Me will come to Me, and the ones who come to Me I will by no means cast out and he may have everlasting life and I will raise him up at the last day. I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I have given is my flesh which I gave for the life of the world. My flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats of My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me and I in him. He who eats this bread will live forever."
He then said,"Learn of me, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light." "When you abide in me and I in you , you will have a new heart and a new spirit, old things will pass away, all things will be new, you will be BORN AGAIN."
I, Lou experianced this. I heard and remember every word. I was changed into a new creature and began a metamorphosis of my mind and spirit that gave me the power to overcome.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 18, 2002, at 12:45:33
In reply to Lou-I'll say one thing - you're persistent. :) (nm), posted by Krazy Kat on March 14, 2002, at 12:59:47
Friends;
As we walked we came to the exprssway. Abby said,"Let's take the bus to the center." "Wait, we must go through that narrow Gate. The Rider on the horse is motioning us toward it."I said. "Lou, the only horse in this city is a bronze statue of some Civil War General in the park. That gate is a turnstile to go to the buses. You are seeing things. You better go to psychiatrist and get some pills." "No, Jerry, I saw him on the horse and he gave us the fruit in the garden,in back of that castle that we stayed in. Don't you remember?" I said. "Lou, we are stayin in a dumpy, old hotel and it is not a castle. The fruit was the fruit and salad buffet that we had the first day." "But we saw the angels." I said. "Lou, the only people besides us that are staying here is convention of disabled people. You are hallucinating, Lou. Go to the psych ward." "But we saw the giant winepress, I said. "Lou, we went on a tour of a winery." "No. you guys, I saw all of this. The Rider said that we would be set free if we followed him, "I said. "Lou, we are here to show our patriotism durring this election."Abby said. "I'm taking about a different kind of freedom, I said."
Then I looked across the street and saw a sign for a resturant. The sign said, "Jame's Oyster House."
I said to them, "I know what course that you will take, but as for me, I want freedom from this death." " am going through that narrow gate.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 19, 2002, at 10:42:49
In reply to The end of the Road?, posted by Lou Pilder on March 18, 2002, at 12:45:33
Friends;
I went to the turnstile and tried to go through the narrow gate but it was locked. I was disapponted and wanted to leave this town.I was alone. It was not my kind of town.
I went to the park and sat down on a bench by the statue of the man on the horse. The horse and it's Rider came alive.(friends, this actually happenend to me, and I know that you do not believe it). The Rider said, "Lou. if you want to get through that narrow gate you must have kept all of God's commmandments from your youth." I said, "Then I can never open that Gate for I have broken them all. If that is the case, then who can go through that Gate?"
The Rider said,"With men it is impossible, but with God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE."
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 20, 2002, at 11:21:01
In reply to The narrow Gate, posted by Lou Pilder on March 19, 2002, at 10:42:49
Friends,
The Rider and the horse turned back into bronze. There was no one there except a group of wineos. I asked them if they saw the horse and Rider come alive. One of them said, "He comes alive all the time. I try to tell those that come here and they just give me change and tell me to buy another bottle of wine. No one believes us.
I asked them to tell me what He says to them. Just then, the horse and Rider came alive gain. And He was changed into the One with many Crowns, and he spoke saying,
"Repent, for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand."
I experianced this. It was expressed to me as an urgent call. It was said in a maner that this had to be done now. There was no time left. Now was the time.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 21, 2002, at 10:10:21
In reply to At the park, posted by Lou Pilder on March 20, 2002, at 11:21:01
Friends;
As I sat in the park, I heard a voice from heaven say to us:
"Ho! Evryone who thirsts,
Come to the waters;
And you who have no money,
Come buy and eat.
Yes, come buy without money and without price.
Let your soul delight itself in abundance.
Incline your ear and come to Me.
Hear and your soul shall live;
Seek the Lord while he may be found,
Call upon Him while He is near.
Let the wicked forsake his way,
And the unrightious man his thoughts;
Let him return to the Lord,
And He will have mercy on him;
For He will abundantly pardon.
"For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,"says the Lord.
For as the rain comes down from heaven and does not return there, and waters the earth and brings forth bread,
So shall my word be;
It shall not be returned to Me void,
For those that drink this water will go out in joy,
And be led out with peace,
And all of the trees of the field will clap their hands.
I,Lou, heard this. This actually happenend to me. "Call upon Him while He is near." "And He will have mercy on him." His WORD will give joy and peace.
Lou
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