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Posted by Greg on December 4, 2001, at 9:38:27
Hadn't heard much from you lately and was wondering how you are doing? Are you surviving the pounding snow and ice? Did you get a new monitor yet? :) Drop me a line or two when you can...
Greg
Posted by Willow on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:22
In reply to Lady Willow?, posted by Greg on December 4, 2001, at 9:38:27
You are so kind to remember me. The only thing blowing up north here is my waist line and lots of rain. Did you ever find a map of Ontario?
Found this neat link called Mapquest. If you type in Callander for the City and ON for the state it'll give you a map of my corner of the world. It's really good. I typed in my street address and it was neat to see everything.
We've had some record highs set for this time of year. Today I went out with just a t-neck and blazer. We've had about 10cm of snow in one day, it lasted about a week then the winds blew up from the west and brought more rain. I prefer the snow this time of year otherwise it's too dark in the evening. The sun starts to rise around 8 is gone by 5.
Hubby got me a new monitor, guess he got tired of my company. Then the sleep doc convinced me to give mirapex another trial, added iron and other vits to replenlish my depleted reserves, and then I added some cigarettes and my stomach took a total revolt. GP sent me for an ultrasound and wrote the big C on the requisition. Boy was I grateful for the logic of my cyber friends!
I think I've been fired from my job. I'm trying to get up the nerve to go in and ask, but I don't think my ego could handle it. The job gave me such good "karma" like I was of use. I think I should have been upfront about my so called disabiltiy but I didn't think it would affect my work since it was casual. Oh, at times like this it would be nice to have hindsight.
I'm reading the "Hobbit" with my daughter and finding myself not being as sympathetic with the little critter the second time round. Looking at him from an adults perspective he comes across very uppity.
I hope the past few months your trials have been minor. Am I correct that you are somewhere in the mysterious state of California? If so do you get seasonal changes? Are you surviving the parental angsts?
The holiday parties are beginning up here. I'm looking forward to going out "all decked up" this weekend for dinner, the first time in many years. I shall be eating prime rib and yorkshire pudding.
Oh the sandman is calling me!
Are you sorry you asked ...
Whistling Willow
(all grown up)
Posted by akc on December 5, 2001, at 7:48:42
In reply to Valiant Knight » Greg, posted by Willow on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:22
What exactly is yorkshire pudding?
Posted by Greg on December 5, 2001, at 18:16:17
In reply to Valiant Knight » Greg, posted by Willow on December 4, 2001, at 22:12:22
I'll answer betwixt your posts so my memory doesn't fail me...
> You are so kind to remember me. The only thing blowing up north here is my waist line (LMAO!!!) and lots of rain. Did you ever find a map of Ontario?
Yes I did, but I think my problem was I was looking for a little tiny Willow waving her arms. Perhaps you were indoors?
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> Found this neat link called Mapquest. If you type in Callander for the City and ON for the state it'll give you a map of my corner of the world. It's really good. I typed in my street address and it was neat to see everything.I did check Mapquest and I remember that I couldn't find your city. Maybe they've done an update, I'll check again and let you know.
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> We've had some record highs set for this time of year. Today I went out with just a t-neck and blazer. We've had about 10cm of snow in one day, it lasted about a week then the winds blew up from the west and brought more rain. I prefer the snow this time of year otherwise it's too dark in the evening. The sun starts to rise around 8 is gone by 5.I have this feeling that your record highs are still very, very cold. I lived in Utah for three years and the first year I thought the snow was cool...until I got a job working in it. I learned to hate it very quickly. I'm a warm weather mammal. I'm the one you see walking around in shorts and a tank top in the winter. The hotter, the better.
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> Hubby got me a new monitor, guess he got tired of my company. Then the sleep doc convinced me to give mirapex another trial, added iron and other vits to replenlish my depleted reserves, and then I added some cigarettes and my stomach took a total revolt. GP sent me for an ultrasound and wrote the big C on the requisition. Boy was I grateful for the logic of my cyber friends!Yay! A new monitor! I'm sure your hubby wasn't getting tired of you. It did sound like you were experiencing a bad acid trip everytime you fired up the old one though...Mirapex, no experience with that, you'll have to tell me about it. I keep telling myself to start taking multi-vits, but I never seem to get around to it. Story of my life. I managed to get myself down to 15 of the ultra light cigs a day, but I don't have the willpower to get any lower... :( The big C? Please explain...
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> I think I've been fired from my job. I'm trying to get up the nerve to go in and ask, but I don't think my ego could handle it. The job gave me such good "karma" like I was of use. I think I should have been upfront about my so called disabiltiy but I didn't think it would affect my work since it was casual. Oh, at times like this it would be nice to have hindsight.Hmmm, you *think* you've been fired. Only one sure way to find out, right. No need in dealing with the anxiety over it if you don't have to. It's hard to know if it's the right thing to do to disclose depressive illness to an employer Willow. You might look back now and think it would have been the right thing, but who knows. By law, at least here in the states you don't have to. I got very lucky at my last job. I chose to disclose it to my boss. it turned out that her husband had been a depression sufferer for 30 years and she was very understanding of my situation. She gave me time off when I needed it, allowed me to work from home when I couldn't handle coming in, and gave me modified work when the work load was too much for me. And she always made sure I got a full paycheck so I didn't suffer financially. I was VERY lucky. I hope whatever happens with this, it works out for the best for you.
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> I'm reading the "Hobbit" with my daughter and finding myself not being as sympathetic with the little critter the second time round. Looking at him from an adults perspective he comes across very uppity.OK, I'm embarrassed. I'm 46 years old and I've never read the Hobbit... Do you recommend it?
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> I hope the past few months your trials have been minor. Am I correct that you are somewhere in the mysterious state of California? If so do you get seasonal changes? Are you surviving the parental angsts?My trials have been...trying. I lost a job of many years, and I took it quite hard. Harder than I thought. It really has changed me. My self-esteem has taken a severe beating and I've been really down on myself. But my family and friends have rallied around me and are helping me to hold it together for now. I'm doing some contract work which I dearly hate, but it is paying the bills. I plan to fire up my own business as a sideline after the first of the year and look for a full-time job as well. Hopefully the market will be in recovery by then and there will be more jobs. It's pretty barren right now.
It's been raining almost constantly for the last two weeks here and the rain makes me so...depressed. I need sunshine dammit!
My kids are...well...kids. They test my patience on a daily basis, but that's what an 11 and a 14 year old are supposed to do right? They really are great kids and I'm very grateful to have them in my life.
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> The holiday parties are beginning up here. I'm looking forward to going out "all decked up" this weekend for dinner, the first time in many years. I shall be eating prime rib and yorkshire pudding.I had backed out of going to my wife's company Christmas party cause I really wasn't in the spirit, but I got to feeling REALLY guilty and decided to go. We are having all the kids over for Xmas dinner (including my oldest daughter and her husband) which should be fun. Just a traditional feast, turkey and stuffing, potatoes, cranberry sauce, etc. Yours sounds great, I love prime rib!!!!! I'm with akc, what is yorkshire pudding? I hope you have a blast!
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> Oh the sandman is calling me!I hope you slept well.
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> Are you sorry you asked ...Are you sorry I answered?
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> Whistling Willow
> (all grown up)Greg
(getting older by the minute)
Posted by tina on December 5, 2001, at 19:20:27
In reply to Re: Fair Lady, posted by Greg on December 5, 2001, at 18:16:17
You take flour, milk, eggs and salt, beat them up, delicately. Pour it into the pan that you just roasted a really good piece of meat in and stir it with the juices. Bake in a 325 degree oven 20-25 minutes until golden brown. (you can also use a muffin pan for individual YP's but the above method tastes way better)
Traditional english pud! always serve with gravy or meat juices poured over top. Best thing with roast beef........
Posted by akc on December 5, 2001, at 19:36:16
In reply to Re: Fair Lady, posted by Greg on December 5, 2001, at 18:16:17
Greg,
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings Trilogy -- read it at least 4 times -- guess I think it is worth it!
akc
Posted by Willow on December 5, 2001, at 22:57:47
In reply to Hobbits . . . » Greg, posted by akc on December 5, 2001, at 19:36:16
> Hobbit and Lord of the Rings Trilogy -- read it at least 4 times -- guess I think it is worth it!
AKC
Did you find yourself feeling sorry for Bilbo the first time and then later having less patience with him? We're still pretty much at the beginning, but I don't find him to be a very good host. My daughter thinks the dwarves are too much, but I've explained my thinking that you shouldn't be making demands of guests. Well I guess there's more to it then that.
Greg
If you do get around to reading it, let me know what you think after the first chapter. As I explained to my child it is a classic. What's a classic she asked? My answer was a piece of art (song, book, whatever,) that generations enjoy. It certainly isn't a dime novel.
Willow
ps i know there is a rain dance, but is there such a thing as a sun dance?
Posted by Willow on December 5, 2001, at 23:05:18
In reply to Re: Fair Lady--Yorkshire Pud, posted by tina on December 5, 2001, at 19:20:27
Thank you Tina for answering! I wrote a long reply on my memories of rice pudding and different ways of making it, and then decided to get the English version directions to Akc, Looked it up in the cookbook, and I was so flabergasted when I realized it wasn't wat I thought it was I just deleted the whole thing.
Once things started getting a little serious with hubby I told him I wasn't a good cook and other secrets. My cooking hasn't improved much over the years.
Hope everyone has a good holiday season and please let it snow!
Whispering Willow
ps tina don't go skating on the rideau until we get a good freeze
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 6, 2001, at 7:54:16
In reply to Re: Fair Lady--Yorkshire Pud, posted by tina on December 5, 2001, at 19:20:27
You have to heat the oil in the pan till it is smoking (in the oven) before adding the batter mixture. I also add a table spoon of Suet to them to make them extra extra yummy!!!
Nikki xx
> You take flour, milk, eggs and salt, beat them up, delicately. Pour it into the pan that you just roasted a really good piece of meat in and stir it with the juices. Bake in a 325 degree oven 20-25 minutes until golden brown. (you can also use a muffin pan for individual YP's but the above method tastes way better)
> Traditional english pud! always serve with gravy or meat juices poured over top. Best thing with roast beef........
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 6, 2001, at 7:55:40
In reply to Hobbits . . . » Greg, posted by akc on December 5, 2001, at 19:36:16
My dad first read me the hobbit when I was 5 or 6, and ever since I have *so* wanted furry feet :o)
A friend of mine plays a hobbit int he new movie and I will forever be jealous!!!
N xx
> Greg,
>
> Hobbit and Lord of the Rings Trilogy -- read it at least 4 times -- guess I think it is worth it!
>
> akc
Posted by akc on December 6, 2001, at 8:40:22
In reply to Re: Hobbits . . . » akc, posted by Willow on December 5, 2001, at 22:57:47
> Did you find yourself feeling sorry for Bilbo the first time and then later having less patience with him?
Hmmm ... I would have to say no. I find him to be, well, a hobbit. Hobbits are not good hosts unexpectedly! But they can throw wonderful parties if given the time to plan. I guess I can relate -- I don't handle the unexpected too well myself either.
Maybe that is one reason why I love the Hobbit so well -- that is a stretch, but who cares?
akc
Posted by Cam W. on December 6, 2001, at 10:22:25
In reply to Re: Hobbits . . . » akc, posted by Willow on December 5, 2001, at 22:57:47
Willow - Like AKC, I am a multiple reader of the Hobbit, the Trilogy, Tom Bombadil's (sp?) poetry, a couple others (too lazy to go look at the books in the basement) and even have a book on the languages (to tell you the truth, I could never get past the first chapter of that one....it was way to geeky, in a Trekish sort of way < sorry Nikki >).
I get something new out of the Lord of the Rings each time I read it. I try to do so every 5 years. I think that there are parallels to the first and second World Wars, and that many of the characters are based on actual people. In a sense, I guess the books are a social commentary (ie. racial equality, but not really; ulterior motives; etc. - you know, real life).
Bilbo doesn't really tick me off that much; at least not as much as Gandalf. What's with this social climbing egoist. There are many times, in all the books, when he could have advanced the cause of the protagonists, and didn't. It's sort of like Glinda, in The Wizard of Oz. What if she had told Dorothy to click her heels together when she first put the shoes on her feet. It would have saved Dorothy a lot of grief, pain, and anxiety (and I would be able to stay awake for the whole movie).
Anyway, Gandalf does save the day, but only when it looks good for him. Man, I'd like to see Dumbledore put him in his place.
Aragorn, I like. A true free spirit, in an "On The Road" sort of way.
Another thing that bothers me about the Rings, is all the killing of Orks and Trolls. I know that ideals have changed since the books were written, but I am not one for killing anything (except that pinhead who cut me off in rush hour traffic - < just kidding >). War may be hell, but aren't there other ways to settle disagreements. I mean, if the Dark Lord did assume complete power, how much damage could he do before hurting himself. Any kind of dictator has to know how to appease the masses, or he/she won't have a pleasant life. He'd eventually get his, as those who were left found ways around the ring.
IMHO - Cam
Posted by Greg on December 6, 2001, at 11:18:19
In reply to Re: Hobbits . . . » Willow, posted by Cam W. on December 6, 2001, at 10:22:25
Gee Cam,
The next time you come for a visit, me, the wife and kids will all curl up nice and warm in bed and you can read the book to us.
But if you start telling us what kind of meds you think the characters should have been on...out you go! ;-P
G
> Willow - Like AKC, I am a multiple reader of the Hobbit, the Trilogy, Tom Bombadil's (sp?) poetry, a couple others (too lazy to go look at the books in the basement) and even have a book on the languages (to tell you the truth, I could never get past the first chapter of that one....it was way to geeky, in a Trekish sort of way < sorry Nikki >).
>
> I get something new out of the Lord of the Rings each time I read it. I try to do so every 5 years. I think that there are parallels to the first and second World Wars, and that many of the characters are based on actual people. In a sense, I guess the books are a social commentary (ie. racial equality, but not really; ulterior motives; etc. - you know, real life).
>
> Bilbo doesn't really tick me off that much; at least not as much as Gandalf. What's with this social climbing egoist. There are many times, in all the books, when he could have advanced the cause of the protagonists, and didn't. It's sort of like Glinda, in The Wizard of Oz. What if she had told Dorothy to click her heels together when she first put the shoes on her feet. It would have saved Dorothy a lot of grief, pain, and anxiety (and I would be able to stay awake for the whole movie).
>
> Anyway, Gandalf does save the day, but only when it looks good for him. Man, I'd like to see Dumbledore put him in his place.
>
> Aragorn, I like. A true free spirit, in an "On The Road" sort of way.
>
> Another thing that bothers me about the Rings, is all the killing of Orks and Trolls. I know that ideals have changed since the books were written, but I am not one for killing anything (except that pinhead who cut me off in rush hour traffic - < just kidding >). War may be hell, but aren't there other ways to settle disagreements. I mean, if the Dark Lord did assume complete power, how much damage could he do before hurting himself. Any kind of dictator has to know how to appease the masses, or he/she won't have a pleasant life. He'd eventually get his, as those who were left found ways around the ring.
>
> IMHO - Cam
Posted by susan C on December 6, 2001, at 11:52:46
In reply to Re: Hobbits . . . » Cam W., posted by Greg on December 6, 2001, at 11:18:19
I have had yorkshire pudding once with rare roast beast...oh, what a delight. The recipe sounds like Dutch Babies, a treat for any morning...and the Hobbit, I tried and tried to read it. It wasn't until I met an English Tolkien scolar on the Norwegian Ferry and he explained how Tolkien had used Norsk legend, that I went out and bought a paperback bound edition (of all of them, you can imagine it was atleast 4 inches thick!!) and read it straight through while hitch hiking training and ferrying through Norway in 1971.
Now I cry when i see the 'action figures' in tv ads for burger joints.
And, I am not sure I will be able to see the movie.
mouse covering her eyes with her paws
Posted by Willow on December 6, 2001, at 23:36:34
In reply to Re: Fair Lady, posted by Greg on December 5, 2001, at 18:16:17
> > You are so kind to remember me. The only thing blowing up north here is my waist line (LMAO!!!)
I take it back. You're not suppose to laugh at me. Do that again and I'll be in a corner pouting!
When you did a search for Callander did you spell it correctly? Callander is only a town, North Bay is the closest city. Next time check on a rainy day, because like you noted on sunny days I'm hiding under a tree for shade or sleeping.
I found this article on the web about "necro-phliacs" or something like that. (Realy weird stuff.) It did get me to wondering if my spouse is one since I spend so much time in bed comatose.
>I'm a warm weather mammal. I'm the one you see walking around in shorts and a tank top in the winter. The hotter, the better.
Up hear you would be called an exhibionist or charged with indecent exposure. I think your friend may be able to find you a picture of our previous PM in his famous red one piece long johns. For myself the long johns go on in August, once it's too cold to swim. My new pup ate the pom-pom off my toque so now I have no way of knowing which way the wind is blowing from unless I spit into it. If the temp goes above 10+c it makes the headlines.
Have you ever gone tobagganing or built a snow house? Snow is a great insulator. The secret is to know how to have fun with it. A good snowball fight will help to make one learn to love the stuff. The further north you go the more obsessed people get with the outdoors in winter. I have pictures of my male relatives with just towels sitting on ice blocks cut out of the lake to make a swimming hole. You would fit right in, I doubt there's any place hotter than a sauna my grandmother has stoked all day!
Now what would a great Knight know about acid trips? Yeah, I get a flashback just thinking about that monitor.
The mirapex helps with the twiching, though it does a number on my mood. On the regular board some are talking about it working as an anti-depressant, but for me it is just a plain downer. The doctors have been pumping me with the wrong vitamin for the past five years, turns out my iron is low. I'm having a hard time understanding how they never checked that when my main symptom has been fatigue. (I managed to get myself down to 15 of the ultra light cigs a day, but I don't have the willpower to get any lower... :( The big C? Please explain...) The doctor had sent me for an ultrasound of my abdomen because I'm so bloated. He wrote ovarian cancer on the requisition form. Had me seriously thinking about quitting!
Looks like the job is fine just me being paranoid. It is a casual position and apparently things are just slow there. In my situation I don't know what type of "illness" I would say I'm afflicted with. "Oh by the way I'm a little off keel because I have a chronic case of ... "
I'm sorry about the job. I recall you mentioning it. I'm embarrassed to say that I do get confused between the two "gregs" on the board. Since I'm on disability I keep telling myself to learn to make a life beyond work. Easier said that done! So I do understand what you mean by it being a kick to your self-esteem.
> It's been raining almost constantly for the last two weeks here and the rain makes me so...depressed. I need sunshine dammit!
I think since September we've had two days of sun. The lake drops a bit, but today it was higher than ever. It is a little exciting to watch the waves coming up so high, but the levels rise ever spring and if they rise from this point I hate to imagine the damage it would do. I've always wondered why someone would build in an area they knew would flood?
>They really are great kids and I'm very grateful to have them in my life.
Yeah, but some days I really need to be reminded.
Thanks
A Wondering Willow
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