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Posted by Rach on September 8, 2001, at 11:00:52
don't ever come another day
Posted by susan C on September 8, 2001, at 12:17:05
In reply to pain pain go away, posted by Rach on September 8, 2001, at 11:00:52
Posted by Willow on September 8, 2001, at 15:26:17
In reply to if you wish upon a star... (nm), posted by susan C on September 8, 2001, at 12:17:05
Posted by kid_A on September 8, 2001, at 18:04:31
In reply to faith will take you far ... (nm), posted by Willow on September 8, 2001, at 15:26:17
Posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 18:05:59
In reply to pain pain go away, posted by Rach on September 8, 2001, at 11:00:52
I was just reading a few pages from The Noonday Demon. This guy can write. Talked about depression worldwide, his own depression, the costs involved and how few people get adequate help. His words are so powerful.
I just wanted to know, as we all 'should' but don't, you are not alone, Rach. Your post captured my day: no matter how well I know that others are suffering, when I'm in the dumps, it seems like there's not even a world outside.
It's non-stop, self-directed intense disappointment with all of the mistakes I've made
and I ABSOLUTELY believe that nothing in my world will really turn out well. Painful thinking. I try to distract myself but energy flows out of my body until I'm frozen in my bed. Scared to open my eyes, scared to close em.
Our lives as depressives and bipolars are some of the most painful there is. Not are we only suffering intense sadness, apathy, confusion, numbness, and self-hatred, we know that a very large percentage of the world will never know the meaning of these chronic killer diseases. This is tough on us folks.
My point? We have got to be tougher and fight like there is not an option to give in or to give up.
Never Surrender
Posted by Kristi on September 8, 2001, at 20:37:59
In reply to Re: pain pain go away, posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 18:05:59
> I was just reading a few pages from The Noonday Demon. This guy can write. Talked about depression worldwide, his own depression, the costs involved and how few people get adequate help. His words are so powerful.
> I just wanted to know, as we all 'should' but don't, you are not alone, Rach. Your post captured my day: no matter how well I know that others are suffering, when I'm in the dumps, it seems like there's not even a world outside.
> It's non-stop, self-directed intense disappointment with all of the mistakes I've made
> and I ABSOLUTELY believe that nothing in my world will really turn out well. Painful thinking. I try to distract myself but energy flows out of my body until I'm frozen in my bed. Scared to open my eyes, scared to close em.
> Our lives as depressives and bipolars are some of the most painful there is. Not are we only suffering intense sadness, apathy, confusion, numbness, and self-hatred, we know that a very large percentage of the world will never know the meaning of these chronic killer diseases. This is tough on us folks.
> My point? We have got to be tougher and fight like there is not an option to give in or to give up.
> Never Surrender
Posted by Wendy B. on September 8, 2001, at 22:31:46
In reply to Re: pain pain go away, posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 18:05:59
Phil,
Sorry you are bumming today... I have been too, and I try try try to be a good mother, but when my daughter says she needs me to sew on 15 buttons for a sleeping bag she just sewed for her baby-doll, it takes just about everything I can do to not say "What!!! You want me to sew on 15 buttons on that little schmatte (yiddish for rag)!! Are you out of your mind??" But I don't scream at her, I stay in control, and guiltily suggest maybe we can bring it down to 7 buttons...
Then later we watched South Park, where the alien visitors put an anal probe up Eric's ass to monitor him from space, and we laugh till we cry... So it ain't so bad...
Why are we all feeling low today? Is it the weather? It was 80 degrees here again today and muggy, and I could not get off the couch, I felt physically and emotionally awful, depressed, lonely... Or as you say Phil: apathy, confusion, numbness, self-hatred. Yeah, I'd say that just about describes it to a T...Just something to add to the mix... Phil, who wroe the Noonday Demon?
Yours,Wendy
> I was just reading a few pages from The Noonday Demon. This guy can write. Talked about depression worldwide, his own depression, the costs involved and how few people get adequate help. His words are so powerful.
> I just wanted to know, as we all 'should' but don't, you are not alone, Rach. Your post captured my day: no matter how well I know that others are suffering, when I'm in the dumps, it seems like there's not even a world outside.
> It's non-stop, self-directed intense disappointment with all of the mistakes I've made
> and I ABSOLUTELY believe that nothing in my world will really turn out well. Painful thinking. I try to distract myself but energy flows out of my body until I'm frozen in my bed. Scared to open my eyes, scared to close em.
> Our lives as depressives and bipolars are some of the most painful there is. Not are we only suffering intense sadness, apathy, confusion, numbness, and self-hatred, we know that a very large percentage of the world will never know the meaning of these chronic killer diseases. This is tough on us folks.
> My point? We have got to be tougher and fight like there is not an option to give in or to give up.
> Never Surrender
Posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 23:00:22
In reply to Re: ... and take no prisoners » Phil, posted by Wendy B. on September 8, 2001, at 22:31:46
Wendy B.,
Thanks for the yiddish...schmatte.
Andrew Soloman is the author. Here's a link to his sight which has great articles he's written and you can download the first chapter, it's very good, if you have Adobe Acrobat.
Posted by Wendy B. on September 8, 2001, at 23:27:28
In reply to Re: ... and take no prisoners Wendy B., posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 23:00:22
Phil,
Ok, just looked at the web site - I saw this book at the Barnes and Noble a few weeks ago, just walked by a table and picked it up because the title sounded interesting, never heard of Andrew Solomon, and I stood there reading it for about 45 minutes... It was fascinating, I guess I'll wait for it to come out in paper...No problemo about the yiddish, got a lot more where that came from. But I'm only jewish by osmosis. My mother's family's Italian, but she grew up in a jewish neighborhood (he parents said that that was the 'good' part of town...). Here's to bi-culturalism, and thanks for writing back so quickly. It's Saturday night, and our sole pals are somewhere inside these computer monitors...
yer pal,
Wendy> Wendy B.,
>
> Thanks for the yiddish...schmatte.
> Andrew Soloman is the author. Here's a link to his sight which has great articles he's written and you can download the first chapter, it's very good, if you have Adobe Acrobat.
>
> http://www.noondaydemon.com/pat_resources.html
Posted by Phil on September 9, 2001, at 10:33:17
In reply to Re: Noonday Demon » Phil, posted by Wendy B. on September 8, 2001, at 23:27:28
Posted by Rach on September 9, 2001, at 10:46:14
In reply to Re: pain pain go away, posted by Phil on September 8, 2001, at 18:05:59
Wow Phil, thanks for this post. I'm shocked that this small post of mine could produce a wonderful response. I'm at the lowest point now that I think I have ever been in. Really feeling that I am in pain, instead of just being lethargic. But thank you & thanks for the others who responded for reminding me I'm not alone.
I'll check out that link you posted.
> I was just reading a few pages from The Noonday Demon. This guy can write. Talked about depression worldwide, his own depression, the costs involved and how few people get adequate help. His words are so powerful.
> I just wanted to know, as we all 'should' but don't, you are not alone, Rach. Your post captured my day: no matter how well I know that others are suffering, when I'm in the dumps, it seems like there's not even a world outside.
> It's non-stop, self-directed intense disappointment with all of the mistakes I've made
> and I ABSOLUTELY believe that nothing in my world will really turn out well. Painful thinking. I try to distract myself but energy flows out of my body until I'm frozen in my bed. Scared to open my eyes, scared to close em.
> Our lives as depressives and bipolars are some of the most painful there is. Not are we only suffering intense sadness, apathy, confusion, numbness, and self-hatred, we know that a very large percentage of the world will never know the meaning of these chronic killer diseases. This is tough on us folks.
> My point? We have got to be tougher and fight like there is not an option to give in or to give up.
> Never Surrender
Posted by Rach on September 9, 2001, at 10:49:41
In reply to Re: ... and take no prisoners » Phil, posted by Wendy B. on September 8, 2001, at 22:31:46
15 buttons for a doll sleeping bag? Thats enough to make the sanest person freak out. You must have an awesome strength inside you to be able to function as a mother. Congratulations. You have my respect; I know I could never do it.
Wishing you smooth happy days,
Rachael
> Phil,
> Sorry you are bumming today... I have been too, and I try try try to be a good mother, but when my daughter says she needs me to sew on 15 buttons for a sleeping bag she just sewed for her baby-doll, it takes just about everything I can do to not say "What!!! You want me to sew on 15 buttons on that little schmatte (yiddish for rag)!! Are you out of your mind??" But I don't scream at her, I stay in control, and guiltily suggest maybe we can bring it down to 7 buttons...
> Then later we watched South Park, where the alien visitors put an anal probe up Eric's ass to monitor him from space, and we laugh till we cry... So it ain't so bad...
> Why are we all feeling low today? Is it the weather? It was 80 degrees here again today and muggy, and I could not get off the couch, I felt physically and emotionally awful, depressed, lonely... Or as you say Phil: apathy, confusion, numbness, self-hatred. Yeah, I'd say that just about describes it to a T...
>
> Just something to add to the mix... Phil, who wroe the Noonday Demon?
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Wendy
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