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Posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 18:33:50
This is a Poll: Do you think pdoc appointments should be tape recorded and come in two parts, so you can go back in a couple days and ask all the questions/clarifications forgotten before your 'time is up'?
Posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:12:58
In reply to A Poll: Recording Pdoc Appointments, posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 18:33:50
> This is a Poll: Do you think pdoc appointments should be tape recorded and come in two parts, so you can go back in a couple days and ask all the questions/clarifications forgotten before your 'time is up'?
I've always refused to be recorded. Call it paranoia, but I really don't see the point in having a session recorded. - Shy Willow
Posted by Ted on August 9, 2001, at 21:33:49
In reply to Re: A Poll: Recording Pdoc Appointments, posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:12:58
I agree with Willow. I think it is too easy to lose control of confidential information if it recorded in audio. Just ask Richard Nixon.
Ted
> > This is a Poll: Do you think pdoc appointments should be tape recorded and come in two parts, so you can go back in a couple days and ask all the questions/clarifications forgotten before your 'time is up'?
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> I've always refused to be recorded. Call it paranoia, but I really don't see the point in having a session recorded. - Shy Willow
Posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 21:39:35
In reply to Re: A Poll: Recording Pdoc Appointments, posted by Ted on August 9, 2001, at 21:33:49
As a patients you don't agree to recording the conversation, for your own reference? I am naive...I think?
> I agree with Willow. I think it is too easy to lose control of confidential information if it recorded in audio. Just ask Richard Nixon.
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> Ted
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> > > This is a Poll: Do you think pdoc appointments should be tape recorded and come in two parts, so you can go back in a couple days and ask all the questions/clarifications forgotten before your 'time is up'?
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> > I've always refused to be recorded. Call it paranoia, but I really don't see the point in having a session recorded. - Shy Willow
Posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:44:07
In reply to willow and Ted?, posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 21:39:35
> As a patients you don't agree to recording the conversation, for your own reference? I am naive...I think?
Do you record your sessions? And if so, have you ever listened to the recordings?
Posted by Marie1 on August 10, 2001, at 8:09:01
In reply to A Poll: Recording Pdoc Appointments, posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 18:33:50
> This is a Poll: Do you think pdoc appointments should be tape recorded and come in two parts, so you can go back in a couple days and ask all the questions/clarifications forgotten before your 'time is up'?
God, no! I'd cringe if I thought anyone else could ever possibly hear some of my therapy sessions!Marie
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 10:16:37
In reply to Re: willow and Ted?, posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:44:07
> > As a patients you don't agree to recording the conversation, for your own reference? I am naive...I think?
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> Do you record your sessions? And if so, have you ever listened to the recordings?If I did, I probably would. I havent asked pdoc about it. As a number of times now, I have come away, feeling rushed, and having a lot of medical knowledge pushed my way. I ask for it, i appreciate it, but sometimes my concentration falters and I am done. If I had the tape, I would listen to it again, to get the ideas of the complexities of what we were talking about. My 30 min med checks are just that, and I hear about symptoms, or try to describe mine and get lost. I try to learn up on them here, to understand what is standard practice, and try to give my own understanding.
Posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 11:35:18
In reply to willow and Ted?, posted by susan C on August 9, 2001, at 21:39:35
Hell no! For me it is often so difficult for me to speak about some things that the last thing I want to do is listen to myself again.
Susan, I have a question for you: Would you videotape your wedding? Would you ever watch the videotape? OK, that's supposed to be happy memories. Would you videotape your divorce hearing? Would you ever watch the videotape? OK, that's sad/painful memories. The latter is usually why we are in therapy in the first place -- sad and painful memories -- and we don't want to be reminded of them.
Ted
> As a patients you don't agree to recording the conversation, for your own reference? I am naive...I think?
Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 12:46:33
In reply to Re: willow and Ted? » susan C, posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 11:35:18
I had never considered recording my Pdoc appointments. I agree with some of the postings, in that a lot of stuff can get chucked out there that I have trouble remembering it all too. However, my illness has been fairly static for about 2.5 years, so I mostly go to get my refills. For counseling, I recently started seeing a Christian counsellor to help me sort out some life issues. Whereas I generally have not responded well to psychotherapy, this guy's approach is more about personality profiles of you and your family. He is the nature/nurture type of clinician, and has no problem with the need for meds to help people. I take notes, which he sees, so that I can remember some of his suggestions. I see nothing wrong with notes, or tape recordings (as long as your Pdoc knows in advance he will be taped) if they serve the purpose of helping you remember the GOOD stuff that you would like to try. As far as it being a morbid reminder as a post said, I don't concur. Sometimes it can be very helpful to know where we have been so that we can realize where we are now, and what roads we may choose in the future.
Posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 12:58:59
In reply to Re: willow and Ted? » susan C, posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 11:35:18
Hi Tec,
My appts are 30 min med check up with pharmpdoc. I don't have a therapist and have so far, except for very beginnig, not found the need for talk therapy, nor has it been recommended. My train of thought on this 'poll' is perhaps generally applied to doctors, who tell you things regarding medications and how they work and the research on them, and expect you to remember and understand very technical things, that I for one, forget. And I am considered intelligent.
> Susan, I have a question for you: Would you videotape your wedding? Would you ever watch the videotape? OK, that's supposed to be happy memories. Would you videotape your divorce hearing? Would you ever watch the videotape? OK, that's sad/painful memories. The latter is usually why we are in therapy in the first place -- sad and painful memories -- and we don't want to be reminded of them. >
Yes, I think I agree on this one, I don't think I'd want a record of me sobbing and the doc sitting stone faced.
Wedding? I eloped.Tape the Divorce, probably, so I could be sure things were covered...
For a dr appt, I don't know, when I am like I am right now, spaced and confused, I don't remember what I just said, let a lone what some one else just said. I am paying for this advice and I think I would like to have a record of it.
BTW this is why I like this board, I can write read and edit.
>But, as I said, I think I would like a recording of what he says, explains about how different meds work and how different studies have explored different things and his insights as to why or what may be going on in my brain. Also to keep track of his advice, one pdoc kept focusing on the same thing and later I realized he wasn't reviewing my notes when he saw me...grrrr.
Maybe I am expecting too much of my pdoc. I am working each day to try and learn how the brain works, and what all the chemicals do. Perhaps what the particular chemicals are that are confused in my brain. Sometimes on the posts here there are people who are so articulate with medical research and chemistry issues I get literally dizzy trying to understand.
I think the understanding of my illness is a combination of things. One of those things is me understanding the terminology. I am not going to be a doctor, but I almost feel like I need to be to understand mine when he talks.
My dad was an MD. He told me of a research doc who made a major discovery. He couldn't reproduce the results. Finally, one day, he tried to retrace his steps exactly. The moment he slid the slide into his breast pocket to walk across the street for his usual coffee, he knew he had found the answer. He had incubated the culture in his pocket. He was then able to reproduce his results.
On one hand I feel defeated. On the other I refuse to give up. thanks for your candid replies.
-s
Posted by Ted on August 10, 2001, at 13:36:35
In reply to Med check only, posted by susan C on August 10, 2001, at 12:58:59
Susan,
OK, in this instance, I would agree that recording might be quite useful. I, personally, would still prefer to take my own notes or request info in writing from my pdoc.
I got through college with ever recording any lectures. But that was many years ago, and before meds, back when I actually had memory. :-(
Ted
> My appts are 30 min med check up with pharmpdoc.>...doctors, who tell you things regarding
>medications and how they work and the research
>on them, and expect you to remember
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