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Posted by Wendy B. on August 7, 2001, at 19:38:30
Hi guys,
I'm not so good at moving from one Board to the other, but this seemed pretty clearly to be Social, not just plain vanilla Babble.
Original post from PaxVox was:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010804/msgs/73975.html
"FYI,
For those in the USA. If your meds cause you job-related problems, and you have
been stigmatized (or harassed) by your employer because of any "mental" condition,
you may want to look up the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act). Effective in
1992, and clarified by EEOC in 1997, people with "psychiatric disabilites" are covered
by the same regulations pertaining to job-discrimination as physical disabilities. E.G.,
they cannot treat you differently (in a negative sense) as long as you can do your job."
I'm currently involved in an ADA suit against my former employer who did not provide me with "reasonable accommodation" for my illness.
Due to the case being in litigation right now, I can't answer particulars about my lawsuit, but I may be able to help on other kinds of questions. Please let me know. I also can refer people to a super lawyer, for anybody on the east coast.All the best,
Wendy
Posted by Drexxie on August 7, 2001, at 19:46:46
I'm curious as to where one might find information regarding government/state benefits for those who are disabled per the ADA. For example, classroom accommodations for university students, possible grants/loans, housing, alternative registration process, et al.
I'm constantly being told that there are myriad resources provided on a state/federal level for those with disabilities. Nevertheless, I've never been able to find any information pertaining to such.
Of course, there are the 'attorney commercials' on the tube, claiming to help those who've "been unfairly denied their Social Security Disability benefits"...
My question, I suppose, is... What all types of programs are available? (if such animal even exists)I've seen numerous high school grads lost in a "what options are available," governmental maze, as they search for where to find disability resources. Additionally, there are those whom are disabled, unemployed for years (due to a psych disability), and lacking any assistance whatsoever (other than that which their family is able to spare).
I'm constantly being asked such questions, and regardless of how I search, can't seem to find any applicable information to pass along. Consequently, my response is always, "Jeez... I'm sorry, but I really don't know."
I even posed these same questions to a local Social Security Office. After a discouraging day spent tripping through endless piles of the proverbial, "red tape," I left that office more confused than when I walked into it. I still have no answers for those who ask.
Thus, I pose these questions to the board. If there are no answers to this 'puzzle,' I, at least, will know that I've done all I know to do in this regard. If there are answers, please advise... As, I'm finding out the 'hard way,' that when there are those who truly need help, and questions lack answers, 'ignorance is definitely NOT bliss.'
My apologies for, once again, rambling, (smile)
-Drexxie
Posted by susan C on August 7, 2001, at 19:53:25
In reply to Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! , posted by Drexxie on August 7, 2001, at 19:46:46
> I'm curious as to where one might find information regarding government/state benefits for those who are disabled per the ADA. For example, classroom accommodations for university students, possible grants/loans, housing, alternative registration process, et al.
>
> I'm constantly being told that there are myriad resources provided on a state/federal level for those with disabilities. Nevertheless, I've never been able to find any information pertaining to such.
>
> Of course, there are the 'attorney commercials' on the tube, claiming to help those who've "been unfairly denied their Social Security Disability benefits"...
> My question, I suppose, is... What all types of programs are available? (if such animal even exists)
>
> I've seen numerous high school grads lost in a "what options are available," governmental maze, as they search for where to find disability resources. Additionally, there are those whom are disabled, unemployed for years (due to a psych disability), and lacking any assistance whatsoever (other than that which their family is able to spare).
>
> I'm constantly being asked such questions, and regardless of how I search, can't seem to find any applicable information to pass along. Consequently, my response is always, "Jeez... I'm sorry, but I really don't know."
>
> I even posed these same questions to a local Social Security Office. After a discouraging day spent tripping through endless piles of the proverbial, "red tape," I left that office more confused than when I walked into it. I still have no answers for those who ask.
>
> Thus, I pose these questions to the board. If there are no answers to this 'puzzle,' I, at least, will know that I've done all I know to do in this regard. If there are answers, please advise... As, I'm finding out the 'hard way,' that when there are those who truly need help, and questions lack answers, 'ignorance is definitely NOT bliss.'
>
>
> My apologies for, once again, rambling, (smile)
> -Drexxie
Posted by Willow on August 7, 2001, at 20:54:41
In reply to Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! , posted by Drexxie on August 7, 2001, at 19:46:46
Handling your sychiatric Disability in Work and School
http://www.bu.edu/cpr/jobschool/index.htmlWe may be the biggest roadblock for ourselves when needing help. The hardest part I found was talking about what I couldn't do. Who would want to admit to a stranger that they couldn't do something simple?
Hope this helps!
Willow
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2001, at 22:21:38
In reply to Americans with Disabilities Act, moved from Babble, posted by Wendy B. on August 7, 2001, at 19:38:30
> I'm not so good at moving from one Board to the other, but this seemed pretty clearly to be Social, not just plain vanilla Babble.
Thanks for doing that! :-)
Bob
Posted by paxvox on August 8, 2001, at 9:23:09
In reply to Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! , posted by Drexxie on August 7, 2001, at 19:46:46
> I'm curious as to where one might find information regarding government/state benefits for those who are disabled per the ADA. For example, classroom accommodations for university students, possible grants/loans, housing, alternative registration process, et al.
>
> I'm constantly being told that there are myriad resources provided on a state/federal level for those with disabilities. Nevertheless, I've never been able to find any information pertaining to such.
>
> Of course, there are the 'attorney commercials' on the tube, claiming to help those who've "been unfairly denied their Social Security Disability benefits"...
> My question, I suppose, is... What all types of programs are available? (if such animal even exists)
>
> I've seen numerous high school grads lost in a "what options are available," governmental maze, as they search for where to find disability resources. Additionally, there are those whom are disabled, unemployed for years (due to a psych disability), and lacking any assistance whatsoever (other than that which their family is able to spare).
>
> I'm constantly being asked such questions, and regardless of how I search, can't seem to find any applicable information to pass along. Consequently, my response is always, "Jeez... I'm sorry, but I really don't know."
>
> I even posed these same questions to a local Social Security Office. After a discouraging day spent tripping through endless piles of the proverbial, "red tape," I left that office more confused than when I walked into it. I still have no answers for those who ask.
>
> Thus, I pose these questions to the board. If there are no answers to this 'puzzle,' I, at least, will know that I've done all I know to do in this regard. If there are answers, please advise... As, I'm finding out the 'hard way,' that when there are those who truly need help, and questions lack answers, 'ignorance is definitely NOT bliss.'
>
>
> My apologies for, once again, rambling, (smile)
> -Drexxie
Go to a search engine like "google" and hit in ADA or the whole phrase. I found lots of info that way.
Posted by Wendy B. on August 8, 2001, at 11:00:51
In reply to Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! , posted by Drexxie on August 7, 2001, at 19:46:46
Drexxie,
What state do you live in? Each and every public school or university in the US is required to have an office that administers programs and services for the disabled, per the ADA.
Have you looked at the EEOC web site? (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission)
http://www.eeoc.gov/Also in the EEOC site, a docket of particular cases brought to trial (very interesting):
http://www.eeoc.gov/docs/ada-98.html#forced_leaveAnother, for accommodations, is the Boston University web site,
Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation:
http://www.bu.edu/cpr/reasaccom/I'll dig up some more. I think the suggestion for contacting your representatives is a very good one.
More later,
Wendy
> I'm curious as to where one might find information regarding government/state benefits for those who are disabled per the ADA. For example, classroom accommodations for university students, possible grants/loans, housing, alternative registration process, et al.
>
> I'm constantly being told that there are myriad resources provided on a state/federal level for those with disabilities. Nevertheless, I've never been able to find any information pertaining to such.
>
> Of course, there are the 'attorney commercials' on the tube, claiming to help those who've "been unfairly denied their Social Security Disability benefits"...
> My question, I suppose, is... What all types of programs are available? (if such animal even exists)
>
> I've seen numerous high school grads lost in a "what options are available," governmental maze, as they search for where to find disability resources. Additionally, there are those whom are disabled, unemployed for years (due to a psych disability), and lacking any assistance whatsoever (other than that which their family is able to spare).
>
> I'm constantly being asked such questions, and regardless of how I search, can't seem to find any applicable information to pass along. Consequently, my response is always, "Jeez... I'm sorry, but I really don't know."
>
> I even posed these same questions to a local Social Security Office. After a discouraging day spent tripping through endless piles of the proverbial, "red tape," I left that office more confused than when I walked into it. I still have no answers for those who ask.
>
> Thus, I pose these questions to the board. If there are no answers to this 'puzzle,' I, at least, will know that I've done all I know to do in this regard. If there are answers, please advise... As, I'm finding out the 'hard way,' that when there are those who truly need help, and questions lack answers, 'ignorance is definitely NOT bliss.'
>
>
> My apologies for, once again, rambling, (smile)
> -Drexxie
Posted by ChrisK on August 10, 2001, at 5:38:42
In reply to Americans with Disabilities Act, moved from Babble, posted by Wendy B. on August 7, 2001, at 19:38:30
Wendy,
I currently get Social Security Disabilty payments due to my depression and repeated suicide attempts caused by it. Once you have proven a psychiatric disabilty it becomes easier to receive "reasonable accomodation" in a work place. Unfortunately for me it took a couple of years of unemployment to finally figure out that I was disabled because of my illness.
There is a lot of info on the SSA website. I think it's www.ssa.us.gov but I'm not positive. Just search for Social Security Administration on a common search engine.
I've been working at a level below what I am capable of for the last ten months and think I'm almost ready to move back up in the world but I will need those reasonable accomodations as far as time and ability to work at home before I can reach my previous position. It's not an easy task and I wish you the best.
Chris
Posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 12:26:35
In reply to Have you talked to Representative/Senator? (NP), posted by susan C on August 7, 2001, at 19:53:25
Susan... (smile)
Thanks for the response. In reply, I haven't. However, that is a very viable option, and one that warrants serious consideration!
Appreciatively,
-Drexxie
Posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 13:19:15
In reply to A link ..., posted by Willow on August 7, 2001, at 20:54:41
> Handling your sychiatric Disability in Work and School
> http://www.bu.edu/cpr/jobschool/index.html
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >Wow!
Thank you, Willow! (smile)
I've searched many a site and hadn't yet had the good fortune to find that one! When it comes to information, support and guidance that site, imho, is definitely one of the best!
> We may be the biggest roadblock for ourselves when needing help. The hardest part I found was talking about what I couldn't do. Who would want to admit to a stranger that they couldn't do something simple?
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >Again, you demonstrate an adroit ability to express in words, that which I've never been able to even admit openly to myself. You're so right, Willow.
I'm actually embarrassed to admit this, but I believe that my doing so, will help me in terms of being better able to "accept," me, for exactly the person I am (disability and all)
On ocassion, I, personally, have found my "disability" less taxing, than the times when I've admitted to another person (and myself!) the seemingly simple tasks at which I struggle.
I suppose, upon giving this some consideration, that I fear others will be as disappointed amd frustrated with me as I am with myself; that consequently, they will judge me as harshly and cruely as I so very often judge myself.
In some ways, I feel my learning to accept my disablity, is proving itself more challenging and, possibly even more difficult, than my learning to live with it.
Thank you for the insight!
-Drex
Posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 13:31:55
In reply to Re: Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! » Drexxie, posted by paxvox on August 8, 2001, at 9:23:09
> Go to a search engine like "google" and hit in ADA or the whole phrase. I found lots of info that way.
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
Many thanks, Paxvox! (smile)
I've not been too successful with my 'searches,' thus far. However, I've never tried "google" before, either! It seems evident to me, that considering the success you've had, I'll soon be finding p-l-e-n-t-y of great information to read!!
Appreciatively,
-Drexxie
Posted by medlib on August 10, 2001, at 16:04:26
In reply to Ah-.Perhaps I've been searching in the wrong place » paxvox, posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 13:31:55
Drexxie--
I'm a Goggle fan (it's now the most popular general search engine on the net), but here are a couple of other resources:
The official U.S. government search site
http://www.firstgov.govAbout.com A very good searchable subject index (searching on "ADA" got several good "hits", including "ADA and Depression"--commentary plus further relevant links.
Well wishes---medlib
http://www.about.com
Posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 16:08:07
In reply to Re: Benefits for the disabled as enigmatic as Santa?! » Drexxie, posted by Wendy B. on August 8, 2001, at 11:00:51
Wow! Thanks, Wendy! (smile)
> What state do you live in? Each and every public school or university in the US is required to have an office that administers programs and services for the disabled, per the ADA.
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
I live in Texas (but, nope.. Sorry, no cowboy boots, horse, nor ten gallon hat! [laugh]).Jeez... I had no idea that public universities were also required to provide services per the ADA! That's wonderful!
> Have you looked at the EEOC web site? (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission)
> http://www.eeoc.gov/
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >No, I haven't, but I soon shall! (grin) For some reason I've always been under the impression they were available to those with employment issues. No doubt, they'll be able to provide some very helpful suggestions and guidance in regards to ADA concerns and questions, as well!
> Also in the EEOC site, a docket of particular cases brought to trial (very interesting):
> http://www.eeoc.gov/docs/ada-98.html#forced_leave
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
Oh, I bet this is interesting! I can't wait to see what ADA issues are being defined through our legal system.> Another, for accommodations, is the Boston University web site,
> Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation:
> http://www.bu.edu/cpr/reasaccom/
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
Available and proper accommodations are one of the many specific issues in which I am very curious! For students (and employees, alike), this is one area which provides significant benefits for those with disabilities. Of course, many, like myself, have had no idea such things were even realistically attainable.> I'll dig up some more. I think the suggestion for contacting your representatives is a very good one.
< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >I agree with you! I, too, think that contacting those representatives is a super idea!
Thank you, Wendy, for all the information you've provided and are looking into! (huge smile) Finding out how one is able to go about doing something has always been such a major road-block, for me. When attempting to do so, I, typically, find myself becoming more and more confused; consequently, I begin to feel frustrated, and overwhelmed to such a point that I basically, become paralyzed in my being able to continue. Things just seem to swirl around me, faster and faster - in some chaotic tornado - which leaves me clueless, as to just what exactly, it was I was trying to do to begin with!Yours, and all the information and support provided by this site is truly helping me stay outta that terrifying storms way!
Many, many thanks! (smile)
-Drexxie
>
> More later,
> Wendy
>
Posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:46:58
In reply to Ah-.Perhaps I've been searching in the wrong place » paxvox, posted by Drexxie on August 10, 2001, at 13:31:55
> > Go to a search engine like "google" and hit in ADA or the whole phrase. I found lots of info that way.
>
> < >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >
>
> Many thanks, Paxvox! (smile)
>
> I've not been too successful with my 'searches,' thus far. However, I've never tried "google" before, either! It seems evident to me, that considering the success you've had, I'll soon be finding p-l-e-n-t-y of great information to read!!
>
> Appreciatively,
> -Drexxie
Look under ADA or the whole phrase. EEOC also has guidlines for implementation of ADA for "reasonable accomodations". I was able to win an EEO case using their own rules that they (mangement) were not even aware of.
Posted by Wendy B. on August 11, 2001, at 7:42:50
In reply to Re: Ah-.Perhaps I've been searching in the wrong place » Drexxie, posted by paxvox on August 10, 2001, at 21:46:58
> Look under ADA or the whole phrase. EEOC also has guidlines for implementation of ADA for "reasonable accomodations". I was able to win an EEO case using their own rules that they (mangement) were not even aware of.
I'd love to hear the details of that case, if you don't mind and have time to write...Thanx,
Wendy
Posted by paxvox on August 11, 2001, at 20:23:06
In reply to Re: Ah-.Perhaps I've been searching » paxvox, posted by Wendy B. on August 11, 2001, at 7:42:50
> > Look under ADA or the whole phrase. EEOC also has guidlines for implementation of ADA for "reasonable accomodations". I was able to win an EEO case using their own rules that they (mangement) were not even aware of.
>
>
> I'd love to hear the details of that case, if you don't mind and have time to write...> I can give you some generalizaions, and how I was able to present an air-tight case, however the specifics I cannot discuss as far as the settlement (because that was PART of the settlement). Basically, a well-armed and determined person can easily blow by the government management types who have very limited understanding of the law, especially "reasonable accomodations". I would rather not post this info on this forum just yet. If you ask specific questions, I will give tangible responses.
PAX
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