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Posted by willow on April 23, 2001, at 21:12:56
about psychs or patients in therapy? Have they always been there and I'm just noticing now because I'm in therapy? I don't think so though, a couple years ago it was "lawyers" and I wasn't having any contact with them. And why doesn't my psych have a couch???
Just wondering,
Willow
Posted by sar on April 24, 2001, at 1:15:24
In reply to What's with all these movies ..., posted by willow on April 23, 2001, at 21:12:56
Woohoo! Progress...maybe the mentally ill are selling as well as abused children, cokehead yuppies, gangbangers, soldiers of war, strippers, the heroin chic crowd...am I leaving anyone out? (I'm counting these among the "voyeuristic indulgence" movie trends.)
I did rent *Girl, Interrupted* recently while feeling blue, and while I didn't understand the "critical acclaim," I found it easy on the eyes, tho probably very inaccurate...(can anyone comment on the portrayal of BPD in that movie?)
I'm with you on the couch, and don't I wish I could smoke in the psych office too! Winona got to haul around a whole carton, damn...
Posted by Marie1 on April 24, 2001, at 9:34:41
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ..., posted by sar on April 24, 2001, at 1:15:24
> Geez....I can really relate to your need to smoke during therapy!! I find it sort of antiproductive because when the issues get really hairy I start craving a smoke, and there goes the thread...It's kind of hard to re-direct your thoughts to horrors in the world when you need a "comfort" smoke. And as to the comfy couch thing, maybe they're afraid of burn holes in the upholstery! I'm all for smoking and the comfy couch making a comeback.
But seriously folks, do you think the couch went away because of patient/doctor sexual harrassment issues?
Posted by Miss Amy on April 24, 2001, at 10:13:36
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ..., posted by Marie1 on April 24, 2001, at 9:34:41
has anyone seen "The Three Faces Of Eve"? Nice old film about a chick with schizophrenia. The ending kind of made me laugh though. Is that all it takes to "become schizophrenic?" I guess stranger things have happened.........Please let me know--it's an old Joanne Woodward black and white film.
Posted by ShelliR on April 24, 2001, at 12:03:01
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ..., posted by Miss Amy on April 24, 2001, at 10:13:36
> has anyone seen "The Three Faces Of Eve"? Nice old film about a chick with schizophrenia. The ending kind of made me laugh though. Is that all it takes to "become schizophrenic?" I guess stranger things have happened.........Please let me know--it's an old Joanne Woodward black and white film.
The Three Faces of Eve is about someone with multiple personality disorder (now called DID--dissociative identity disorder)--not schizophrenia. Actually "Eve" is a real person, who had many more personalities than three. She has written several books, including, "I am Eve." Shelli
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 24, 2001, at 12:37:46
In reply to What's with all these movies ..., posted by willow on April 23, 2001, at 21:12:56
I had my first ever therapy session on saturday, and was most upset that they didn't have a nice leather couch to lie on!!! Gorgeous big arm chair though :o)
Oh, and I can smoke in my sessions!!!! One of the few advantages of being in the UK I guess, they're not yet as hung up on smoking asin the US!
Nikki
Posted by Miss Amy on April 24, 2001, at 12:46:23
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ... » Miss Amy, posted by ShelliR on April 24, 2001, at 12:03:01
Is MPD sometimes a side effect of schizophrenia? I think I was misinformed a bit or something. thanks for the heads up! : )
Posted by Greg A. on April 24, 2001, at 12:58:51
In reply to What's with all these movies ..., posted by willow on April 23, 2001, at 21:12:56
The first psych I ever went to did not have a couch. He did have a fish tank, though, that he used to stare into while I was talking. And often his responses were made to the fish as well.
The fish did not appear to have a couch either, so at least this was consistent.
After a half dozen visits or so he informed me (and the fish) that he was moving to another city and could find no signs of mental illness with me so he wouldn’t bother referring me to anyone else. I often wonder how the fish are doing . . .
Posted by Noa on April 24, 2001, at 13:05:37
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ... » willow, posted by NikkiT2 on April 24, 2001, at 12:37:46
Whoohoo! Nikki finally gets to see a private therapist! How was it (besides the smoking and comfy chair)?
Posted by shelliR on May 1, 2001, at 23:44:48
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ...*ShelliR, posted by Miss Amy on April 24, 2001, at 12:46:23
> Is MPD sometimes a side effect of schizophrenia? I think I was misinformed a bit or something. thanks for the heads up! : )
Actually MPD (now called DID-dissociative identity disorder) is not at all related to schizophrenia. Schizoprenia is a psychosis; DID is a personality disorder. When a child is badly abused in his/her first years of life, for survival purposes, the child may unconsciously create identities as a defense mechanism. For example say a child, Ann, is either badly physically or sexually abused by a parent, relative, etc. And say the abuse occurred at night. During the abuse she may split off into another personality--say Karen. So when Ann gets up to go to school the next day, she is not outwardly tramatized because she doesn't remember what has happened the night before. The memory is stored in the other identify--Karen. Then at some point when she is older, somehow, the identify of Karen may break through. Then Ann realizes she has an inner system of identities, that she knows nothing about. And each of these identities had a specific function in protecting her when she was a child.
When kids develop DID (MPD) it is usually in reaction to abuse that they cannot deal with. It is probably a good defense mechanism for the child, because it allows them to function in school, with friends, etc.
For the adult, the identities are still there because they are so secret. But there is no longer any need for them--because the adult can now protect herself. And that's why deep intensive therapy is needed. The person gets to know all the personalities and know what they have kept secret from her. The goal of therapy is generally (but not always) integration--which means that all the personalities have joined back into one personality.
Actually for some people, it is much more complicated than the scenario I describe above--but anyway, this is a sort of simple basic description that I hope doesn't confuse you.
Shelli
Posted by Craig on May 2, 2001, at 1:39:24
In reply to Re: What's with all these movies ...*ShelliR » Miss Amy, posted by shelliR on May 1, 2001, at 23:44:48
Just to set the record straight, Dissociative Identity Disorder is not a personality disorder. On Dr. Bob's Mental Health Links page is a link to DSM-IV Made Easy http://www.geocities.com/morrison94/ and you'll see the category it is in. In another category is the list of personality disorders.
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> Actually MPD (now called DID-dissociative identity disorder) is not at all related to schizophrenia. Schizoprenia is a psychosis; DID is a personality disorder.
Posted by shelliR on May 2, 2001, at 11:40:38
In reply to DID category in DSM-IV » shelliR, posted by Craig on May 2, 2001, at 1:39:24
> Just to set the record straight, Dissociative Identity Disorder is not a personality disorder. On Dr. Bob's Mental Health Links page is a link to DSM-IV Made Easy http://www.geocities.com/morrison94/ and you'll see the category it is in. In another category is the list of personality disorders.
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> > Actually MPD (now called DID-dissociative identity disorder) is not at all related to schizophrenia. Schizoprenia is a psychosis; DID is a personality disorder.Yes, I stand corrected; DID is a dissociative disorder and is not listed under personality disorders. Shelli
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