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Posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 14:45:06
In reply to drones and non drones, posted by Phil15 on February 2, 2001, at 20:58:20
> When i say drones, i mean people who are very "normal" and really dont stop to think about >things.
More power to them if that is the case, much better than obsessing. Interesting attempt at justifying depression and trying to make it seem a'superior'state. It is NOT. It is dysfunctional, unlike being what you describe as a drone. I'd rather be that and happy than depressed and discontented, which unfortunately is more where I am at...and yourself as well by the sounds of things... Better to focus on becoming more functional than justifying dysfunction ie. seek solutions rather than problems.
Posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 19:15:43
In reply to drones and non drones, posted by Phil15 on February 2, 2001, at 20:58:20
It is obvious by the fact that you analyzed my drone/non drone theory as being a way to justify depression as superior, that you think to much yourself... What I was really trying to say was that depressive people tend to think a lot more than people that aren’t depressed. For example many writers are/were very depressive people. The fact that we think so much should not be a bad thing though, yet people who don’t think a lot “drones” find different/strange ideas repulsive to their very core existance. An example of this is persecution that took place many times in the past because of different outlooks than the norm. Not all thinkers are depressed though, because they find an outlet for which to apply their thoughts. I think that people need to realize if they are thinkers, that it is almost futile to try to continue to be really “with it socially” and that it will just make you hurt the more you try to be a part of something that just cannot be achieved.
Drones, are people who tend to just go with the flow, and have more “fun” socially. There is nothing wrong with them, except for the fact that they do not like to see a persons true colors, and will put on an act to hide their own. This makes us feel like we have to do the same, and can be very annoying, and futhermore it makes us keep our thoughts into ourselves more. Which in turn makes us kind of an unrepressented minority, we need to see that there are many people with strange idea and that we should argue for the right to express what we think without being stomped on.
I found that since you really believed that I was justifying my depression as being superior, it is pretty undignified to take away something someone finds comfort in and makes them feel good about themselves. Say I had really achieved a superior feeling because of a mere theory like this, and what if I were suicidal too. That would have been serious breakdown buddy, so you better watch your remarks a little more before you dispense them. Even if they were true, but that would just make it worse…
Posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 19:28:23
In reply to dj: could be true but that would pretty low if..., posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 19:15:43
>Say I had really achieved a superior feeling because of a mere theory like this, and what if I were suicidal too. That would have been serious breakdown buddy, so you better watch your remarks a little more before you dispense them. Even if >they were true, but that would just make it >worse…
The test of your theory Phill5 is not what I or you think about it but whether it works. Personally, though it's kinda interesting and there are some grains of truth in it, IMHO, however I believe you are painting with a pretty broad brush which ignores more than it contributes and I do believe it is an attempt to put down those who are functioning well, by justifying attitudes and behaviour that do not fit the norm and are hence dysfunctional in the society in which we live.
And though that may provide some solace for you, I personally don't believe it's a healthy outlook, which will serve you, me or anyone else other than in remaining in a resist, resent, revenge mode. If my very minor questioning of your core argument is upsetting to you I'm sorry that you choose to interpret it that way. If you were suicidal and my comments were interpreted in such a way to further any such obsessing, that would be unfortunate.
Posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 19:54:40
In reply to Re: dj: could be true but that would pretty low if... » phil15, posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 19:28:23
It did not upset me at all, what i said was if that was someones justification to make them happy, then that would make them loose their happyness just because you need to go proving to yourself that you are normal and our society so harmonious.
It really is not, I have noticed over the years that good people suffer at the expense of mean, thoughtless people. It is very hard to even stand up for another person that is being persecuted for some stupid reason. I goto an all boys catholic school and i see nice kids getting made fun of and or taken advantage of because of these mindless abonimations. I can understand justified and provoked anger towards another human being, but finding miniscule flaws in innocent people i just don't understand. I cannot hurt someone else because afterward i know that i will put myself into the position of the other person, and won't like it at all. It is a lack of thinking that creates evil, or long provoked thought out revenge towards evil. Neither are good.
Posted by allisonm on February 3, 2001, at 20:44:15
In reply to drones and non drones, posted by Phil15 on February 2, 2001, at 20:58:20
Phil,
I think I agree with some of what you're saying. I don't think depression is created and manifested by drones, and I'm not sure that I subscribe to your writing re religions and astral planes, but I do think too much and I have spent a fair amount of time thinking about people you call drones.
To me, they go through each day and their entire lives, really, just doing what everyone else does without thinking about it or questioning it. In fact, they are usually so interested in being like everyone else that they make a point of not questioning. I drive by new housing tracts full of them on my way to work. They live in these boxes, which are like every other box on the street, all in differing shades of beige vinyl siding because that's what everyone else has. They have 2.5 kids and 2 late-model cars (one might be a minivan) in their two-car garages. The bushes around their houses are the kind you find at the home improvement superstore that everyone else buys. They are content with their lives (from what I can tell). I work with people like this. Some are my friends. They do things because that's what you do. They don't really think whether they personally want to do it; it's just what you do.
For the most part, they're nice folk but they don't think a lot and they aren't too imaginative. At work, if I bring up what they might consider a "weird" topic, they just kind of stand there -- with deer in the headlights kind of stares and half smiles on their faces, not really knowing how to respond.
They are the type of people if I were to get into a discussion about depression (and I never would), wouldn't know what I was talking about. They could never conceive of anyone wanting to commit suicide. It just doesn't register. They are too busy living their lives like they are supposed to. They don't notice things like sunsets, or the waxing moon, the first frost on the grass -- frost just makes them shudder and complain that winter is coming. They don't see the beauty in it. They don't watch birds much. They don't notice when they migrate. They're too fixed on getting a better raise at work, getting a better job, retiring in Florida. They don't pay too much attention nor have much opinion about what's going on elswhere in the world because it doesn't affect them.
I hope I haven't offended anyone, but these are some of my observations that I've thought a lot about for a long time. How can people live their lives like this? Is it really living? What is living? What am I living?
Just some thoughts.
Posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 21:06:36
In reply to Re: drones and non drones » Phil15, posted by allisonm on February 3, 2001, at 20:44:15
Yeah, you better described them then i did. They are out there, and in a way it would be cool to be one, in fact whenever i drink, my friends say i become a "drone", and people actually listen to what i have to say(i think its cause im not saying something weird, but still). Not that i encourage drinking but..it can be fun, in small amounts at the right time... Anyway, my friends and i see drones in our every day lives and just love to drive them crazy by telling them our theories. My old best friend was a drone, but then he became "too cool for me" and then started making fun of me. He was a really fun kid to hang around when i was into my "social mode" and he knew where all the parties were and stuff. But he definatly wasn't the type for my "intellectual modes" and got pissed off with me when i brought stuff up.
Posted by allisonm on February 3, 2001, at 21:32:47
In reply to Re: drones and non drones, posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 21:06:36
Ok, then I know what you're talking about. It isn't that they're stupid at all. Many are very smart. I know some not-too-smart people who are not drones -- as eccentric as they come. It's just a way different mindset. It's a conscious (or ingrained) decision not to think. It's as though they got put on autopilot or something. And I do know some drones who are or have been depressed. But with the drones that I know, the depression usually stems from some crisis -- pending divorce, husband lost his job, and so forth. It seems less biological. But I admit that my observations are of a small number of people. And I should stress that not everyone who lives in a beige house is a drone. Again, it's this mindset...
Posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 22:12:07
In reply to Re: drones and non drones, posted by allisonm on February 3, 2001, at 21:32:47
yeah, they are so steady in their life and unwavering. Their are all types of drones, drones tend to get more accomplished to what they are meant to be for... Like say you have a nerdy drone, he will be very smart, and you can have a religious drone (some priests) that will be so into religion and like never loose interest in it.
Before some friends and i classified drones, we observed that we seemed to have "modes". Like right now i am in "intellectual and religion mode", yet tomorow i might be in "depressed mode" and then next friday ill be in "social party mode". When i am in my "social party mode" i will think im a weirdo in this mode. Drones stay in one mode all the time it seems, and non drones cant make up their mind or for my matter cant even acuratly predict what mode i'll be in really.
And the weird thing is, is that i am not schitzofrenic, not bipolar, or any other thing that would hint multiple personality syndrome. My psychiatrist thought that i was bipolar at first but later found out that i just "think alot".Alot of my friends are the same and i know that dont have any psycological problems other than minor depression.
Do u notice this too?
Posted by Todd on February 3, 2001, at 22:14:22
In reply to Re: drones and non drones » Phil15, posted by allisonm on February 3, 2001, at 20:44:15
I agree with so much of what you say, Allison. And I get your drift too, Phil. I just wonder, along with DJ, if you are being a bit "superior" here. Most likely you're not consciously, but subconsciously that feeling that you have so far in your life "worked out" this much can make you come off as feeling superior. It's so very easy to project that, we've all done it. It feels GREAT. You spoke about you and your friend driving the drones crazy - what about gently enlightening them? You're creating negative energy. If what makes you feel great alienates you from others, then not only is it not so great after all, but you start to turn off people that could really benefit from your point of view. Your wisdom becomes useless, because you have turned yourself into an island. Which is half the cause of depression, as far as I am concerned. We're all interconnected, and really cannot exist inside and outside of society at the same time. We all affect each other's lives constantly. Infinitely.
Going back to the drone theory, I really think that drones are the weaker people. People with depression are much stronger, I believe. Which is not to say that people who suffer depression are the only stronger ones. We are all the same deep down inside, all wonderfully beautiful and whole in our imperfections. Problem is, drones are terrified of their imperfections. Have any idea why? It would make them Horribly Depressed! Drones can't handle that kind of introspection, because the fear of finding something horrible would literally crush them. So instead of acknowledging their imperfections, they live their lives in a state of denial, trying to make themselves look good and projecting their own insecurities onto everyone else. Nothing they do is passionate or exciting because they have cut themselves off from their own core. They seem happy to us and look happy to us, but they really aren't. It's a shallow and fear-based happiness.
Depressed people, on the other hand, are more than willing to acknowledge their own imperfections. Problem with us is that we also accept the ones projected onto us by the drones! That's what continues the negative feedback loop. We believe the drones, and we don't believe in ourselves. We are so much stronger for having the guts to go inside ourselves and to feel our pain deeply. We think and feel so much more deeply than the drones, and are very in touch with our core. But we keep believing that the core is rotten, because we accept the reality perpetuated by the drones. We keep trying to love ourselves and be ourselves in all of our imperfections, but that scares the hell out of the drones. It reminds them of their own dark side that they are too terrified to confront. They insist that everything is great and wonderful, and we keep believing it. We accept that life should be perfect, and drive ourselves further into depression because of our failure to achieve that "perfectness." We hold on to the belief that there shouldn't be pain in our lives, and keep invalidating ourselves as we try to crawl out of our misery.
What we have to discover, and once discovered, remember, is that we ALL hurt, we ALL suffer. Every single person who walks this planet. And it's all completely natural and perfectly HUMAN. We all have to reconnect to our core and allow ourselves to feel our pain in a loving way. I really believe that as we each get better at this, we can allow others in our lives the same space. With perserverance, what you'll find is not a rotten core at all, but a wonderfully beautiful one that was put on this earth to shine brightly. Aren't we all wounded healers anyway?
Peace and love.Todd
Posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 22:30:28
In reply to Wounded Healers, posted by Todd on February 3, 2001, at 22:14:22
wow...that really made alot of sense. My psyciatrist also said that i isolate myself and make it hard for myself to meet new people. But we haven't yet figured out as to the reason why i do it... I have said because i think weird thoughts, but then he tells me that i only think them because i am not "socially with it" and therefor have to think instead of talking. it is a viscious cycle.
Anyway, i still do think there are drones and non-drones. Like for example a drone would almost definatly not be discussing as deep as you are. But thanks to you my exact viewpoint of the reason for there being has changed. Really, it is just because people have different personalities, and it seems like there is a remarkable line that seperates the two groupings of types of personalities. Drones and Non-drones.
Posted by Todd on February 3, 2001, at 22:44:15
In reply to Re: Wounded Healers-wow, posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 22:30:28
"Not socially with it?" Your shrink sounds like a drone himself. Do you like him? Maybe you should reserve him for providing your meds and find a more human therapist to talk to. I'm very honored that you took something positive from my post. Makes it all worthwhile. Once again, peace and love.
Todd
Posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 23:30:41
In reply to uh..no dj..., posted by phil15 on February 3, 2001, at 19:54:40
I am not saying we live in a perfect or just society Phill5. I am saying that those who choose to not excessively dwell on the imperfections in our society are probably healthy overall than those who do obsess and isolate because the world does not meet their standards. Truly healthy people attempt to make positive changes in it, within the scope of their abilities.
There are drones in all segments of society and probably more fo them are depressed than not I figure. Evil is evil and dwelling excessively on the evils in our world is not healthy or useful unless you are going to do something about it, besides making negative judgments of those you think you are superior to... Doing something about true evils is healthy...or just moving on to healthier foci.
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 7:52:08
In reply to Re: uh..no dj... » phil15, posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 23:30:41
> I am not saying we live in a perfect or just society Phill5. I am saying that those who choose to not excessively dwell on the imperfections in our society are probably healthy overall than those who do obsess and isolate because the world does not meet their standards. Truly healthy people attempt to make positive changes in it, within the scope of their abilities.
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> There are drones in all segments of society and probably more fo them are depressed than not I figure. Evil is evil and dwelling excessively on the evils in our world is not healthy or useful unless you are going to do something about it, besides making negative judgments of those you think you are superior to... Doing something about true evils is healthy...or just moving on to healthier foci.
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For me, it's not a matter of feeling superior or the world not meeting my standards. It's more a matter of feeling that I wasn't made right, I wasn't made for this world, I don't fit in. For whatever reason I don't share the same interests as many other people, so I keep to myself. I have spent a lot of time alone, especially as a child. I always have been introverted. The thing about drones that I have puzzled about is how they can live their lives in this way, which appears so very normal -- whatever that is. How do they do it? How did I get on this other path? I marvel at their contentment because I don't have it.
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 8:10:12
In reply to Wounded Healers, posted by Todd on February 3, 2001, at 22:14:22
Todd,
Thanks. That was beautifully said. I agree completely.
As I said in my post replying to dj, it's not so much a feeling of superiority over drones and the rest of society as a feeling that I don't fit in this world, that I wasn't made right.
I have one question: If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, can you clarify or reconcile your 2nd, 3rd and 4th paragraphs on the drone theory with your opening paragraph about feeling superior and negative energy. Does your own opinion of drones make you feel superior?
Phil, Todd, dj, where do theory and belief end and feelings of superiority begin?
Thanks and peace,
Allison
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 8:42:54
In reply to drones and non drones, posted by Phil15 on February 2, 2001, at 20:58:20
Is ambition and/or envy a part of being a drone?
Is learning that you cannot (for whatever reason) compete in the realm of drones part of not being one and then does this lead to defining them in the ways that we have in this thread?
Posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 8:43:48
In reply to Re: uh..no dj..., posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 7:52:08
> For me, it's not a matter of feeling superior or the world not meeting my standards. It's more a matter of feeling that I wasn't made right, I wasn't made for this world, I don't fit in. For whatever reason I don't share the same interests as many other people, so I keep to myself. I have spent a lot of time alone, especially as a child. I always have been introverted. The thing about drones that I have puzzled about is how they can live their lives in this way, which appears so very normal -- whatever that is. How do they do it? How did I get on this other path? I marvel at >their contentment because I don't have it.
Alison,
This I can relate to, though I wish I did not and parts of what Phil and Todd wrote I can also relate to, though I also wish I did not.
The use of the word drone to characterize those who are content and seemingly non-questioning is what I believe to be a negative judgment that I don't think is appropriate. Contentment is a state to seek, rather than condemn, I believe, and I consider it to be a superior state to relentless questioning and obsessing as it seems to be from where more happiness springs.
Posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 8:57:25
In reply to another question, OK two or three, posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 8:42:54
> Is ambition and/or envy a part of being a >drone?
I'll leave it up to others to debate that as I don't agree with the concept, as stated. Here, for instance, is a story from a paper today about folks that I assume Phill5 would define as drones, and how they dealt with some pretty tough circumstances. I don't think I would adjust as well, at this point, though I may have more so in the past.
"The power of friendship
As his body begins to fail him, pals lend him strength Damian Inwood The Province
NANAIMO -- All his life, casino pit boss Freddie Wilson has been a popular, happy-go-lucky winner.Playing baseball and hockey, entering sand-castle competitions, going fishing or swimming in the Nanaimo River, Wilson has always had a great time.
But then the friendly, 36-year-old family man was dealt a losing hand in the shape of the incurable Lou Gehrig's disease.
Tonight, Nanaimo is rallying around him, with the first of two Friends of Freddie benefits to raise money to help Wilson, wife Shannon and three young kids.
"I just don't know where to begin to thank people," says Wilson, who now walks with a cane. "I found out I had the disease in late November. I was feeling a little shaky -- mostly weak in my legs and losing strength in my arms."
Wilson's closest friend, Kevin Haslam, decided to do something to help the buddy he's known for more than 20 years.
"I was crushed when I found out," says Haslam, 31, who also works at the Great Canadian Casino. "It's tragic, him being such a nice guy. But you don't have any choice in the matter -- you are dealt the cards and you have to play the hand."
Tonight, more than 200 people will gather at Cavallotti Hall for a dinner and auction to raise money.
"The town has really got behind it," adds Haslam. "We've been canvassing for donations for our auction and we've been overwhelmed by how much stuff we've been receiving."
Haslam is now setting up a trust fund through a Nanaimo credit union.
"We hope to raise between $10,000 and $15,000, mostly for his wife and kids. They don't have much.
"Ideally, we would like to see him get a down payment on a house so he'll know his wife and kids will have a roof over their heads."
On March 4, at the Queen's Hotel in downtown Nanai-mo, another friend, Robert Ashton, is organizing an eight-band benefit.
"I've known him for at least 10 years," says Ashton, who works security at both the casino and the pub. "It was hard to believe and everybody was really upset. The main reason I am doing this for Freddie is that I know he would do the same for me."
Two of the Nanaimo musicians donating their time got together with Wilson last week at the hotel's pub.
David Gogo, the blues guitarist voted Musician of the Year 2000 at the West Coast Music Awards, will bring his band to play at the benefit.
"I have known Fred for 10 or 12 years. He's a hardline Montreal Canadiens hockey fan, as am I," Gogo says. "When I had my first band, he and Shannon came to Alberta to see us play a couple of times. He's a real solid guy. It's a shitty thing to happen."
Another friend is Billy Hicks, drummer and "ringmaster" for the band Wunderbread.
"Nanaimo is a strong, tight-knit community," Hicks says. "It's going to be a good evening."
Haslam calls his friend an outgoing, friendly man who has no enemies -- and a great baseball player who suddenly found himself unable to get around:
"We all thought his knee was a sports injury until November." That's when Wilson learned he had Lou Gehrig's disease.
Wilson loves the Habs team so much he named his son, who's now three, Dryden. "I ran the name past my wife and she liked it," Wilson grins.
Completing the family are eight-month-old twin daughters Rachael and Bryanna.
"We have our up days and our down days," Wilson chuckles. "The twins are crawling -- they are just getting forward gear. Dryden goes hell-bent for leather. He has two speeds -- stop and fast."
THE DISEASE
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is known as "Lou Gehrig's disease" after star New York Yankees baseball player who died of it in 1941.
It's a progressive, degenerative disease that attacks nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord. Patients eventually become totally paralyzed but their minds usually remain unaffected.
Renowned scientist Dr. Stephen Hawking has suffered the disease for more than 30 years."
Is Hawking a drone, as so defined above??
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 8:57:34
In reply to Re: uh..huh... » allisonm, posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 8:43:48
Drone wasn't my word. I agree it can connote a negative image, sometimes deserved and other times not at all.
Some people seem to me to be living in the wrong direction for the wrong reasons (wealth, keeping up with the Joneses, etc.), with an uncharitable attitude toward others, who wear blinders so that they cannot see the rest of their world.
There are other people who don't go that path, who are quite normal, simple and happy. They don't have any intention of climbing the highest mountain, of making the most money, of putting others down. They just live life the way they were taught without questioning it because that's the way it should be and has always been. Certainly there are other kinds of people, but this is what I picture when I think of "drones." I find I fit with neither group.
I am happy to use an alternative word without negative connotations. Suggestions?
Posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 9:00:55
In reply to Re: uh..huh... » dj, posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 8:57:34
> I am happy to use an alternative word without > negative connotations. Suggestions?
strivers, the status quo, the disaffected vs the dissatisfied or something along those lines perhaps?
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 9:05:04
In reply to Re: another question, OK two or three, posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 8:57:25
> Is Hawking a drone, as so defined above??
>
No. And I don't think the above story a definition that is necessarily that of a "drone."
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 9:08:28
In reply to Re: uh..huh... » allisonm, posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 9:00:55
I think the status quo would work.
Posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 9:09:37
In reply to Re: another question, OK two or three, posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 9:05:04
> > Is Hawking a drone, as so defined above??
> >
> No. And I don't think the above story a >definition that is necessarily that of a "drone."Who would you describe as a drone, given the above theory - Donald Trump, his ex-wife, Bill Clinton, Hilary or ???
Posted by allisonm on February 4, 2001, at 9:40:08
In reply to Re: another question, OK two or three, posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 9:09:37
I don't know Donald Trump, Marla Maples, or Bill and Hillary.
Of the people I do know, I would consider my father's sister and her husband and their two daughters; my best friend's brother and sister-in-law; my good friend and college roommate; a man I supervise; and my next-door neighbor representational of the status quo. With the exception of my aunt, uncle and two cousins, I have nothing against these people and most I like very much. They just live and think differently than I do.
Posted by phil15 on February 4, 2001, at 12:50:24
In reply to Re: uh..no dj... » phil15, posted by dj on February 3, 2001, at 23:30:41
in response to the below, i definatly agree with you there. I think i would rather not be getting into these things but u gotta admit it is interesting to discuss. Anyway i do want to change the surrounding in a positive way, but first i need peoples input like yours as constructive critisism, u know... No one person has all the answers because each person has a unique outlook on life.
I am not saying we live in a perfect or just society Phill5. I am saying that those who choose to not excessively dwell on the imperfections in our society are probably healthy overall than those who do obsess and isolate because the world does not meet their standards. Truly healthy people attempt to make positive changes in it, within the scope of their abilities.
There are drones in all segments of society and probably more fo them are depressed than not I figure. Evil is evil and dwelling excessively on the evils in our world is not healthy or useful unless you are going to do something about it, besides making negative judgments of those you think you are superior to... Doing something about true evils is healthy...or just moving on to healthier foci.
Posted by dj on February 4, 2001, at 13:10:20
In reply to i agree dj..., posted by phil15 on February 4, 2001, at 12:50:24
> ... i do want to change the surrounding in a positive way, but first i need peoples input like yours as constructive critisism, u know... No one person has all the answers because each person >has a unique outlook on life.
Discussion and airing and refining of insights and outlooks is a good place to start and evolve from Phill5. Good luck on your journey of engagement and positive change, on whichever path you choose.
Here's an interesting quote to ponder from the book "Ambition, the Secret Passion" by Joseph Epstein: "We do not choose to be born. We do not choose our parents. We do not choose our historical epoch, or the country of our birth, or the immediate circumstances of our upbringing. < though some would aruge that > We do not, most of us, choose to die: nor do we choose the time or conditions of our death. But within all this realm of choicelessness, we do choose how we shall live: courageously or in cowardice, honorably or dishonorably, with purpose or in drift. We decide what is important and trivial in our life. We decide that what makes us significant is either what we do or what we refuse to do. But no matter how indifferent the universe may be to our choices and decisions, these choices and decisions are ours to make. We decide. We choose. And as we decide and choose so our lives are formed. In the end, forming our own identity is what ambition is all about."
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