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Posted by Rzip on October 28, 2000, at 16:10:41
np
Posted by pullmarine on October 28, 2000, at 17:31:19
In reply to Pullmarine, are you in school? (np), posted by Rzip on October 28, 2000, at 16:10:41
> np
Posted by Rzip on October 28, 2000, at 18:30:22
In reply to Why do u ask?(np), posted by pullmarine on October 28, 2000, at 17:31:19
Pullmarine,
I just want someone my age (early 20s) to talk to. School, academics for me is the central focus of my life. I know that it is unhealthy to be this way, but I can not help the way I feel.
So, are you currently a student?
- Rzip
Posted by dj on October 28, 2000, at 20:00:58
In reply to Just wanted someone to talk to. » pullmarine, posted by Rzip on October 28, 2000, at 18:30:22
> I just want someone my age (early 20s) to talk >to.
Here's some other options for you that may be more interactive and age appropriate and if you scout about on-line (use http://google.com to do some searches) you can probably find more, while breaking from your studies.
http://www.wingofmadness.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi
http://www.wingofmadness.com/cgi-bin/icq/icq.pl
And if you are on campus perhaps there is a club you can get involved with or some other place you might meet some live folks, which is healthier again than purely having an endless babbleogue... Good luck, whatever options you choose...!
sante!
dj
Posted by shar on October 28, 2000, at 20:25:28
In reply to Re: Just wanted someone to talk to Rzip, posted by dj on October 28, 2000, at 20:00:58
> > I just want someone my age (early 20s) to talk >to.
>
> Here's some other options for you that may be more interactive and age appropriate and if you scout about on-line (use http://google.com to do some searches) you can probably find more, while breaking from your studies.
>
> http://www.wingofmadness.com/cgi-xbin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi
>
> http://www.wingofmadness.com/cgi-bin/icq/icq.pl
>
> And if you are on campus perhaps there is a club you can get involved with or some other place you might meet some live folks, which is healthier again than purely having an endless babbleogue... Good luck, whatever options you choose...!
>
> sante!
>
> dj
Posted by dj on October 29, 2000, at 1:05:55
In reply to What is ICQ? np, posted by shar on October 28, 2000, at 20:25:28
a free download for real time (synchronous or non) e-babble... or according to the source...
http://www.icq.com/products/whatisicq.html
ICQ is a revolutionary, user-friendly Internet tool that informs you who's on-line at any time and enables you to contact them at will. No longer will you search in vain for friends or associates on the Net. ICQ does the searching for you, alerting you in real time when they log on. The need to conduct a directory search each time you want to communicate with a specific person is eliminated.
With ICQ, you can chat, send messages, files and URL's, play games, or just hang out with your fellow 'Netters' while still surfing the Net.
ICQ lets you choose the mode of communication you wish to employ. Regardless of the application, be it chat, voice, message board, data conferencing, file transfer or Internet games, ICQ will get your entire message across in real time. ICQ supports a variety of popular Internet applications and serves as a Universal Platform from which you can launch any peer- to- peer application (such as Microsoft NetMeeting or Netscape CoolTalk). It can also be used in a multiple-user mode, so groups can conduct conferences or just 'hang out' on-line. The program runs in the background, taking up minimal memory and Net resources. While you work with other applications, ICQ alerts you when friends and associates log in, allowing you to work efficiently while maintaining a wide range of Internet functions at your fingertips. Among the functions available are: chat, message, e-mail, and URL and file transfer.
All these functions are consolidated into one easy-to-use program that integrates smoothly into desktop systems.
How does it work?
It's simple. When you install ICQ, the program asks you to register at a server, which is connected to a broad network of servers spanning the Internet. At the time of registration, you receive a unique ICQ number, also known as a UIN (Universal Internet Number). In addition, ICQ gives you the option of entering personal information along with your ICQ#. This allows other ICQ users to recognize you when you log on. Once you've registered, you can compile a selected list of friends and associates. ICQ uses this list to find your friends for you. Meanwhile, ICQ waits quietly in the background without interrupting any other applications in use. As soon as you log onto the Internet, ICQ automatically detects the Internet connection, announces your presence to the Internet community and alerts you when friends sign on or off.Once you know who's on, all it takes is a click of an icon to initiate chat, implement URL transfers, send messages, exchange files, or launch any external peer-to-peer applications...
Posted by pullmarine on October 29, 2000, at 1:33:48
In reply to Just wanted someone to talk to. » pullmarine, posted by Rzip on October 28, 2000, at 18:30:22
> Pullmarine,
>
> I just want someone my age (early 20s) to talk to. School, academics for me is the central focus of my life. I know that it is unhealthy to be this way (SAYS WHO?????), but I can not help the way I feel (GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!).
>
> So, are you currently a student?
>
I prefer not to give any information about myself over the web. I hope you understand.
JOHN
Posted by KenB on October 29, 2000, at 2:18:22
In reply to Re: What is ICQ? , posted by dj on October 29, 2000, at 1:05:55
This information, from a well-known internet security site, explains how IRC/ICQ systems are used to identify, categorize and database users. Can we suppose "hackers" are the *only* internet users being secretly databased by 24/7 bots? ________________________________________________
Here's a rather simple statement to think about: It's easier to find out information when people aren't trying to hide it from you. Hackers that aren't doing anything illegal don't try to hide their identities to the degree that hackers who are doing illegal things do. Now, here's the trick. Gather data about hackers BEFORE they start doing the "hacking". So simple it sounds unimportant, I know. Here's one example of how we at XXsite_name_deletedXX apply this principle.Let's go back to IRC for a moment. We at XXsite_name_deletedXX have things called "bots", or programs that go on IRC to gather information for us. We got access to accounts on several different systems to place these bots on, so that the hackers don't realize that they're ours.
One of the things that these bots collect are the "hostmasks" of every user in different IRC chat channels that relate to technology and hacking. A hostmask has two parts to it, and EVERY user that goes on IRC has one. Hostmasks take the form of username@domain. So, for example, when I'm on IRC I may show up as ??@??.XXsite_name_deletedXX .net.
Now, the hacker can make the "username" whatever he wants. The domain, is the name that his computer gets when it connects to the internet. When hackers are trying to hide, they'll either "spoof", or falsify, their domain, or they'll "jump", or telnet to a hacked shell account and come on IRC from there. In either case, it makes it more difficult to determine what the "true domain" of the hacker is. However, if a hacker is not trying to hide himself, he'll simply connect directly to an IRC server, and you'll be able to see his true domain in the hostmask.
So, by collecting the hostmask of every individual that goes into any of those channels, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, we're able to keep a fairly thorough database. If a hacker breaks into a high profile site, and starts "hiding" himself on irc, we're able to look back a month or two, and see what domain he came on from then.
Once again, this is just one of MANY possible techniques under the category of "But, I Haven't Done Anything...YET (Find It Before They Need To Hide It)". I hope that it gives you a feel for how this technique can be valuable, and gets you thinking of other ways that can be used to implement it.
Posted by Rzip on October 29, 2000, at 7:16:26
In reply to Re: Just wanted someone to talk to. » Rzip, posted by pullmarine on October 29, 2000, at 1:33:48
> > Pullmarine,
I understand. I am sorry I asked. I am not sure what all these ICQ responses are about. What do they have to do with me?-Rzip
Posted by KenB on October 29, 2000, at 11:33:22
In reply to Re: Just wanted someone to talk to. » pullmarine, posted by Rzip on October 29, 2000, at 7:16:26
Sorry, Rzip, this thread wended away from the subject you posted. "to do with me" tends to loose focus when filtered through this high-speed text-only medium.
> > > Pullmarine,
> I understand. I am sorry I asked. I am not sure what all these ICQ responses are about. What do they have to do with me?
>
> -Rzip
Posted by pullmarine on October 29, 2000, at 14:58:48
In reply to Re: Just wanted someone to talk to. » pullmarine, posted by Rzip on October 29, 2000, at 7:16:26
> > > Pullmarine,
> I understand. I am sorry I asked. I am not sure what all these ICQ responses are about. What do they have to do with me?No need to apologize. I'm the king of faux pas.
ICQ is used to chat online.
JOHN
>
> -Rzip
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