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In Treatment ..

Posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 18:59:00

began again last night - Season 3 on HBO. I got to watch all 4 episodes while waiting for a repair person this afternoon (so much for cleaning my house). Anyway, I really like Paul's new therapist. She reminds me of my t is a completely glammed-up hollywood way (my t's office is not 10% as nice as that one) and of course my t doesn't offer up that many interpretations one after another ... then again ... this is TV therapy.

So - she is my favorite followed by Debra Winger's character. The young boy is so angry, he is difficult to watch.

Anyone else watching? You have to have HBO to catch "In Treatment".

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by Dinah on October 26, 2010, at 19:33:02

In reply to In Treatment .., posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 18:59:00

How is it presented this time? I liked the first season where they showed one a day. How are they grouping it this time? Four clients and his therapist?

I will try to catch up this weekend.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by emmanuel98 on October 26, 2010, at 19:53:14

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Dinah on October 26, 2010, at 19:33:02

I don't have HBO, but I think I heard that the first season is now out on DVD. I'm going to check netflix.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98

Posted by Dinah on October 26, 2010, at 20:10:31

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by emmanuel98 on October 26, 2010, at 19:53:14

Second season just came out too.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » Dinah

Posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 21:34:28

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Dinah on October 26, 2010, at 19:33:02

I posted my answer and it never popped up ... so apologies in advance if I'm repeating myself and my mystery post appears.

There are two clients on Monday and one client on Tuesday, then he sees this p-doc (whom he only sees for a perscription refill week 1). My cable provider releases all 4 episdoes "on demand" each Sunday ... lucky me!! I just love this show.

Funny I posted about the p-doc reminding me of my t and then I post about the most outlandish part of her personality in the next. She normally seems normal ... it's just one or two sessions a year whem this conversation pops up.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by wittgensteinz on October 28, 2010, at 10:42:33

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » Dinah, posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 21:34:28

Cool... I watched the first 2 series. It's become quite a hype here in the Netherlands. They've even brought out a Dutch version, but the acting is pretty bad! I also saw some of the original Hebrew show but I still prefer the American version. I read somewhere that the therapy (albeit 'TV therapy') is probably more akin with how it is practiced in Israel than in the States - more directness, for example.

Therapy probably does vary with culture, with what is acceptable within the boundaries of interaction. In a more direct culture, the therapist might be more outspoken. It would make a cool research project.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by Daisym on October 28, 2010, at 16:26:12

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » Dinah, posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 21:34:28

I finally had a chance to watch all four episodes and I've read some about this season. This is the first season to be written for American TV instead of rewritten over the original scripts. So it will be interesting to see if things change.

The thing I hate is that clients and Paul, when he is a client, are shown as pretty confrontational. They fly off the handle a great deal, pushing back directly at the therapist. It is more my experience that clients sort of save it up and finally get mad - or they go quiet if they are upset. Once in awhile they explode on the spot. So I'm not sure I like that depiction. But I remind myself they have to show intensity and this is one of the only ways since you can't "feel" what is happening.

I watched the one about Jesse when my 19 yr old was in the room. He has been in therapy since he was 11. His comment was "I'd never talk to my therapist like that, he'd kick my a>>" I was glad to hear that!

I have to say I like Paul's new therapist. She really called out all the duality of his relationship with Gina. :)

So - would you read a book written by YOUR therapist?

 

Re: In Treatment .. » Daisym

Posted by annierose on October 28, 2010, at 17:04:02

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Daisym on October 28, 2010, at 16:26:12

YES ... I'd read a book written by my therapist. I'm sure it would bring up all sorts of issues but how could I not read it? It would be too tempting for me to ignore.

Would you?

My t has written articles that are posted on the internet - and I read those.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by emmanuel98 on October 28, 2010, at 19:42:34

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » Daisym, posted by annierose on October 28, 2010, at 17:04:02

It's not on netflix yet, so maybe the first season is not yet out on DVD. I don't remember where I heard that it was.

And yes, I would DEVOUR a book by my therapist, or anything else he wrote. But he is not an academic and has never written anything. Believe me, I checked on medline soon after I began seeing him.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98

Posted by Annierose on October 28, 2010, at 20:48:41

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by emmanuel98 on October 28, 2010, at 19:42:34

I saw season one @ Blockbuster and on Amazon.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by rskontos on October 29, 2010, at 23:47:49

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98, posted by Annierose on October 28, 2010, at 20:48:41

Hi guys, I have not been here in so long. I have always loved In Treatment, but for some reason I haven't been able to watch. But then my issues are flarely up, my anxiety has turned into a pretty intense case of panic attacks. So either I dissociate or I have a panic attack. I am glad though my p-doc/t doesn't look like Paul.

It is nice to see so many familiar names. lots of changes for me, part of the reason anxiety is high.

 

glad to see you again, rskontos (nm)

Posted by softheprairie on October 30, 2010, at 11:16:19

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by rskontos on October 29, 2010, at 23:47:49

 

Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98

Posted by Dinah on October 30, 2010, at 12:39:23

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by emmanuel98 on October 28, 2010, at 19:42:34

> It's not on netflix yet, so maybe the first season is not yet out on DVD. I don't remember where I heard that it was.

I've got both sets at home.

"In Treatment Season 1"

"In Treatment Season 2"

I also show it on Netflix.

http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/In-Treatment-Season-1/70087097?strackid=194dc42356e66aac_0_srl&strkid=2106817939_0_0&trkid=222336

Are you not in the U.S.? Sometimes there are geographical restrictions.

> And yes, I would DEVOUR a book by my therapist, or anything else he wrote. But he is not an academic and has never written anything. Believe me, I checked on medline soon after I began seeing him.

Me too. Even though I'd know it was a very bad idea. I think the less I know about what my therapist really thinks, the better.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » rskontos

Posted by Dinah on October 30, 2010, at 12:40:37

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by rskontos on October 29, 2010, at 23:47:49

Good to see you.

I'd love to hear what's going on in your life.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by Dinah on October 30, 2010, at 12:43:26

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Daisym on October 28, 2010, at 16:26:12

Is Jesse the teen?

I saw a bit of that the other day. All I could think was that I really really love my son. I'm not sure how I could deal with a teenage boy who acted like that.

I'm going to try to watch the episodes this weekend. I had a deadline at work last week, and that's not the kind of show I enjoy watching while I'm working that hard.

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by emmanuel98 on October 30, 2010, at 20:52:38

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Dinah on October 30, 2010, at 12:43:26

Well no wonder I couldn't find it. For some reason I thought the title was In Session. Now that I know the right title, I've ordered the first season on Netflix. Can't wait to see it. Everyone I've talked to who has HBO raves about it.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » Dinah

Posted by rskontos on October 31, 2010, at 0:52:02

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » rskontos, posted by Dinah on October 30, 2010, at 12:40:37

> Good to see you.
>
> I'd love to hear what's going on in your life.

Thanks Dinah, I really appreciate that. I am going back to school, and its hard but I sorta like it, I am not sure that makes sense. I am having more panic attacks and anxiety but I am learning to control it. My flashbacks have started up again but this time I am telling myself that I survived it once I can survive it again especially since this is just remembering not really going through it.

I am only seeing my therapist PRN due to school demands. I am slowly finding my groove. School doesn't always seem safe but I am working through that too, remembering that I put myself there. My family is supportive and my p-doc/therapist is too. If I call he calls right back.

I see that you are struggling to reduce your t sessions to once a week. I understand how that is, I recently did that within the last year. It is hard to hang on to the safe feeling your t gives you throughout the week but I find I am able to cope on my own, I still have meltdowns, I get upset but I am determine to manage this on my own.

That is what I have decided therapy is, a chance to talk out how you feel about all the crap that brought you there, but in the end it is something we must solve on our own for it to matter to us in the end. I might be talking crap, but it is my crap and it is sorta working for me. Somedays better than others.

Let me know how you are. I have miss you and everyone else

rsk

 

Re: In Treatment .. » rskontos

Posted by Dinah on October 31, 2010, at 13:53:23

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » Dinah, posted by rskontos on October 31, 2010, at 0:52:02

It sounds like an exciting time in your life! What do you think made the difference in helping you feel comfortable enough to go back to school?

I'm always interested in what helps people make that turning point.

I think one of my turning points came when I soldered for the first time. It gave me a huge feeling of self efficacy, and made me feel self confident.

 

Re: In Treatment ..Jesse

Posted by annierose on October 31, 2010, at 14:19:24

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Daisym on October 28, 2010, at 16:26:12

Jesse is an angry kid - no doubt. And I agree, all of these TV clients are not only fairly confrontational, but they seem to know just what to say to push Paul's buttons. And how about how they ask (directly and indirectly) about his personal life -- both Jesse and Debra Winger's character did that a lot. I don't think that is commonplace either. In 8 years of therapy, I think I've directly asked 3 personal questions and they were of the "vague" variety - - - ex: how many children do you have?

One thing I noticed about Jesse's character that I could relate to was how he looked away a lot ... they showed us the anxious feelings in silence which is where I'm at 75% of the time (or it feels that way). The female teen gymnast (from season 1) was more accessible - more likeable in her pain. Jesse pushes everyone away.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98

Posted by wittgensteinz on November 1, 2010, at 18:42:54

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by emmanuel98 on October 30, 2010, at 20:52:38

This is probably a bit late but you can also watch on-line for free. Just type "watch In treatment on-line" into google and you should find sites which link through to on-line versions of all the episodes that have been shown on TV.

Witti

 

Re: In Treatment ..

Posted by emmanuel98 on November 1, 2010, at 21:32:37

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » emmanuel98, posted by wittgensteinz on November 1, 2010, at 18:42:54

Cool. I probably can get it on hulu. My daughter taught me all these sites (she's 22 and she and her friends know how to find everything), but I just forget about these possibilities. Anyway, my first netflix DVD arrive today. That way I can watch in the bigger screen and exercise at the same time.

 

Re: In Treatment .. » Daisym

Posted by wittgensteinz on November 4, 2010, at 8:39:26

In reply to Re: In Treatment .., posted by Daisym on October 28, 2010, at 16:26:12

I agree - I can't imagine the average client in real life is nearly as confrontation as that.

Only now, after some years, am I finding it possible to reflect in the hear and now about how a comment might have made me feel, and only sometimes - and certainly not with such aggression and defensiveness - it normally has to be coaxed out of me.

Yes, I would and have read my therapists books (not all of them). And they did bring interesting things up but also gave me an idea of what was ok and not ok in the therapy because I knew what had gone before and to some extent how he had reacted. One example, was whether he accepted gifts. I got my answer by reading one of his books.

I wouldn't like it though if I would find myself in one of his books (well, in any case not without prior consent and a pre-reading and careful consideration) and I'm happy he doesn't write novels.

Witti

 

Re: In Treatment .. » wittgensteinz

Posted by wittgensteinz on November 4, 2010, at 8:40:23

In reply to Re: In Treatment .. » Daisym, posted by wittgensteinz on November 4, 2010, at 8:39:26

Wow, bad spelling/typing - sorry about that!

 

Catching up on In Treatment .. (Spoilers)

Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 11:29:27

In reply to In Treatment .., posted by annierose on October 26, 2010, at 18:59:00

I'm up to Jesse in week 2, and wondering if I should just skip that episode.

My favorite by far is Sunil. He is so clearly depressed, and bewildered, and... shrunken maybe? from what he would have been before. I know he's not perfectly likable, but then who is? I wonder if the preview of next week's show is setting up a Tarasoff situation. I think that in some ways that I can't quite identify, he reminds me of my Grandpa. The posture maybe. For whatever reasons, I can't stop the image of my grandpa flickering through my mind as I watch his episodes.

I like to watch the play of emotions across Frances' expressive face. Debra Winger looks great, even prettier than when she was young. I like her, but I think she put Paul in a very difficult situation with her sister. There are lots of analysts in New York. Why did she make that decision, and is she really going to be angry with Paul for the consequences? It's harder to forget I'm watching an actor if the actor's face seems as familiar as hers does. I had the same problem with John Mahoney last season.

I want to skip Jesse entirely. All that unmasked anger is difficult to watch even from a distance and through a TV. There's the reason I would never wish to be a therapist. You can't choose only to see the pleasant ones. He did shift away from the anger later in the episode, but still...

I both recognize that Adele has strengths as a therapist, and realize that I'd run from her like a startled hare runs from a cheetah. There is too much intensity in her gaze, and her quick starts are startling to *me*. As much as I love sheepdogs, I don't think I could be in therapy with a border collie. My antennae are way too finely tuned in session.

I do like how she questioned Paul's relationship with Gina. I think even Gina questioned whether such an incestuous relationship was helpful to Paul. I really like how her final statement contrasted with Gina's final statement to Paul. And even her confusion at his reaction. I'll reserve judgment.

And as always, I don't like Paul as much in his own sessions. He seems to make little digs at his clients, and naturally I do not find that appealing. I don't *think* my therapist would do that.


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