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Posted by obsidian on July 13, 2009, at 18:34:40
not that there's anything wrong with that...
but I wonder if I sometimes indeed require medication
sometimes it feels sort of arbitrary, but I was wondering if that feeling is perhaps a little bit of denial, or maybe not at all
the truth is though I'm not sure if I could get through work without it
which might speak more about my job than it does about me
I mean I like my pdoc, but I never meant to get on 4 meds
I don't even know if anyone is familiar enough with me to have an opinion, but I figured I'd ask anyway
thanks,
sid
Posted by Sigismund on July 13, 2009, at 19:17:48
In reply to Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc??, posted by obsidian on July 13, 2009, at 18:34:40
This 4 meds thing is partly cultural. It's not done here nearly so much.
(That is my feeling, I don't really know.)Do you require these?
Who knows, but here's my gut feeling....No.
Do I know you well enough?
I don't feel that you are disturbed. Your response to the world (tiredness, irritation, anger, some despair?) seems pretty rational and sane to me.
How would you feel if you were in a situation where you could chuck your job and do what ever it is you wanted?
Would you feel any better? (You should. I think.)
Would you then need meds to function?
Posted by yellowbird01 on July 13, 2009, at 19:46:40
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc?? » obsidian, posted by Sigismund on July 13, 2009, at 19:17:48
I dont feel that I know you well enough to comment whether or not you *need* meds... I have no idea. Your posts are certainly clear and coherent though.
I ask myself the same question often. I think that having been on the medication-go-round (and mental health system) for so long can make it hard to trust yourself. I'm afraid that if I went off my meds, I'd crash - why? Maybe because I truly need the meds... but maybe because my brain is just so scared to be without them, scared of what might happen, that it'd be almost like a reverse placebo effect. I fear that I'd cognitively dig myself into a hole pretty quickly, and depression can be caused (in my opinion) as easily by problematic ways of thinking (CBT stuff) as by chemical imbalance. Of course theyre intertwined, but hopefully you get my point. I'm not sure if it really means anything or relates to your question in any way, but that's just my thoughts on it. It's so hard to know.
Posted by muffled on July 15, 2009, at 10:42:23
In reply to Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc??, posted by obsidian on July 13, 2009, at 18:34:40
4 meds? Hmmm. Thats quite a bit.
You seem OK to me, so maybe they working?
Sorry I dunno...I not around much. I miss kidding around w/you.
Gotta go,
take care sid
M
Posted by obsidian on July 15, 2009, at 12:57:46
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc?? » obsidian, posted by Sigismund on July 13, 2009, at 19:17:48
> This 4 meds thing is partly cultural. It's not done here nearly so much.
> (That is my feeling, I don't really know.)
>
> Do you require these?
>
> Who knows, but here's my gut feeling....No.
>
> Do I know you well enough?
>
> I don't feel that you are disturbed. Your response to the world (tiredness, irritation, anger, some despair?) seems pretty rational and sane to me.
>
> How would you feel if you were in a situation where you could chuck your job and do what ever it is you wanted?
> Would you feel any better? (You should. I think.)
> Would you then need meds to function?perhaps some, but surely not as much
that's sad isn't it? to need to be medicated in order to remain some form of functional.
If I could chuck my job and do whatever I wanted...wow, that's a nice thought. I'm working on finding out what that is. Yes, I would be much better.
Posted by obsidian on July 15, 2009, at 22:45:01
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc??, posted by yellowbird01 on July 13, 2009, at 19:46:40
> I ask myself the same question often. I think that having been on the medication-go-round (and mental health system) for so long can make it hard to trust yourself. I'm afraid that if I went off my meds, I'd crash - why? Maybe because I truly need the meds... but maybe because my brain is just so scared to be without them, scared of what might happen, that it'd be almost like a reverse placebo effect. I fear that I'd cognitively dig myself into a hole pretty quickly, and depression can be caused (in my opinion) as easily by problematic ways of thinking (CBT stuff) as by chemical imbalance. Of course theyre intertwined, but hopefully you get my point. I'm not sure if it really means anything or relates to your question in any way, but that's just my thoughts on it. It's so hard to know.
yes, I relate very much to what you are saying. It is so hard to know. I just don't feel like I have the strength at the moment to try. I hope that I do have the strength at some point. These meds do have side effects after all. It's been like 10 years now!! on some kind of psychotropic medication. Funny though, I probably could have used them most when I was a child and a teen.
Posted by obsidian on July 15, 2009, at 22:49:59
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc?? » obsidian, posted by muffled on July 15, 2009, at 10:42:23
> 4 meds? Hmmm. Thats quite a bit.
> You seem OK to me, so maybe they working?
> Sorry I dunno...I not around much. I miss kidding around w/you.
> Gotta go,
> take care sid
> Mmaybe they are doing something...maybe I'm just in a lighter shade of misery ;-)
yes, there is that perspective..that maybe I'm functioning because they are working to some point. I suppose it's all a balance...I mean the meds can only do so much in the presence of one's particular stressors, like a see saw, stress on one side, meds on the other.it's nice to see you muffs..are you hanging out somewhere else?
thanks,
sid :-)
(ps BALLS!)
Posted by Sigismund on July 16, 2009, at 14:23:32
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc?? » yellowbird01, posted by obsidian on July 15, 2009, at 22:45:01
>I probably could have used them most when I was a child and a teen.
When you were a child or a teen you may have needed someone to beam you up? (I did).
At my age I just could not cope with large doses of different types of meds (except, perhaps, of strong painkillers).
Posted by obsidian on July 16, 2009, at 18:16:30
In reply to Re: Do I seem like someone who needs a pdoc??, posted by Sigismund on July 16, 2009, at 14:23:32
yes, I certainly did. I met someone not long ago who was preoccupied with fantasies of being taken away by aliens. He was hopeful that he would be, probably so he'd fit in more.
I'm on relatively low doses of two of them....worried about some side effects though which I haven't been talking freely about.
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