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Posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 1:11:26
ever mean to hurt noone.
Never , never, never.
Too much hurt in world.
Too much.
Sometime, I try an show who I am, I kinda get dragged out cuz I defend, but I not attacked.
I do not ever feel attacked.
NOTHING bothers me.
Never, never, never.
So thats why I not wanto ever make noboddy feel bad, cuz i never feel bad and I don't wanto be cause of bad feeling is all.
I love everyboddy 'cept evil people and i don't love them
We wannna kill the bad ones.
But then we be bad so we not do that.
We know this.
Sorry if I be bad somehow cuz I never wanto be.
I just want everyboddy to be happy.
I read this, so's I can fix mistakes.
Maybe I kinda stupid.
Posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 9:17:31
In reply to I don't never ever in the world, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 1:11:26
I think as much as we try not to hurt others, it will happen because we are human. Just because one doesn't have the intent to do that, it can still happen, and it is best to deal with the hurt person by apologizing to them. It is part of the learning process of being human.
Posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 10:24:35
In reply to Re: I don't never ever in the world » muffled, posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 9:17:31
I not sposed to post sometimes to some cuz I being dumb.
Thats why I not so smart.
But I trying to be smart and so I not post.
Thats why sometimes alls I say is sorry sorry, cuz I get confused and I dunno if I doing right or wrong.
I say sorry to all the world cuz I done lotsa bad things.
:-(
I not post to some no more never ever.
I try and do this cuz thats the right thing.
I will do right things.
I gonna be good.
I hope I am being right and not wrtong cuz lotsa times I just don't know.
:-(
Nothing bothers me.
Posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 10:36:42
In reply to Re: I don't never ever in the world » muffled, posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 9:17:31
and I should say, that there's others what feel inside.
But they away cuz we not like that.
But it all works.
I grow confused at this time, so I must take a break I feel.
Seriously, my intention is never to harm. I only ever want to add good to this world. But I hurt others and I do not like this.
I read this clip below, this is what I want, I want to have agape love for all.
I post copy of what I sent my T, cuz she not religious.
I wanted to explain that religion is not bad:Ya, s'pose we all entitled to our own opinions, But bout "religion does bad things." I GOTTA straighten you out. There's bad sh*t cuz there is EVIL. Evil exists and is an entitiy as fars as I am concerned. We live in a fallen world and there's plenty evil round here. This you know, this you seen in your work. Only evil would hurt a child. Evil is in us all, but me must override the evil.
I think this is the basis of so many religions. To rise above. So religion in its true form does not encourage evil. It encourages GOOD. Supposedly religious people hurt each other, they hurt 'in the name' of "religion". But it comes down to the fact its people hurting people. If it wasn't religion, it would be something else. People just hurt people, religious or otherwise.
Man fights, its just our nature. The fight that is in us can help us survive, the fight that is in us can be turned against others. The fight in us can be used to do good.
Ultimately, as a child, when I had nowhere else to turn, I turned to nature, and studied it in infinite detail. I could pick up tiny sugar ants by one leg. I knew all the microscopic insects that lived in the soil, in the water. I saw it all. I could see the cells in the leaves, the stomata that they breathed thru. I'd spend HOURS watching a spider weave its web. I SAW. And what I saw, was that there was a power in existance much greater than myself, much greater than any human being could claim to be. THAT is my higher power. He lives within me too. But I do NOT claim ANY deity for my own part. I just humbly accept that my God cares for me for some unknown reason. He just keeps caring. No matter what. I CAN depend on Him to be there for me. He will not stop bad things happening, he gave the world free will, but I can draw comfort from Him. I need to remember this. I cannot even begin to imagine a world w/o my higher power. LOL, my higher power is NOT warm'n'fuzzy either LOL! I just beleive it exists for a reason, for everything there is a reason, and my God will eventually turn all that is bad for good. I just goto try and do my best. I just got to trust Him. But its hard, cuz I got some parts whats real angry w/God too. Yet more dichotomy. Sigh...OK lecture over... I beleive alls peoples religion is they own. Just I was kinda stung by your comment that 'religion' hurts people. I am sorry if you were hurt by it. But true religion is not about hurting others. It is about loving them. Do you know what the word agape means? I never understood it until I had my kids.
Agape love, I know nothing of this website, but I liked their definition of agape:Eros, Philia, Agape
In the Greek language there are three words that are used for love. The first one, eros, stands for sexual, romantic love. From eros we have the word erotica. Eros is the kind of love mostly known by the world. You can easily notice people's preoccupation with sex.
The second word, philia, generally refers to affection between friends. From this word we have Philadelphia, the "City of Brotherly Love." Although both eros and philia have others as their focus, they both can be motivated by self-interest, self-gratification and self-protection. They are both the kind of love that is designed to satisfy the desires of the one doing the loving. There may be an element of giving involved, but it is a giving for the purpose of getting something in return.
The third Greek word for love is agape. The meaning of this word for love stands in sharp contrast to that of the other two words. This word alone points to a completely self-sacrificing love, a love that lacks self-interest, self-gratification and self-preservation. Agape love is motivated primarily by the interest and welfare of others. The word agape is used very sparingly by Greek secular writers, but in the New Testament, agape is the Greek word most frequently used for the love for God (Matt. 22:37, John 14:15), the love for spouses (Col. 3:19, Eph. 5:25), and the love for enemies (Matt. 5:44, Luke 6:35).
Posted by obsidian on December 7, 2008, at 12:13:50
In reply to Re: I don't never ever in the world, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 10:36:42
that I have never ever thought that anything you've had to say was meant to cause another harm. In fact I have always thought that it was just the opposite, a loving and supportive thing.
that's part of how I've come to see you
(((you)))
-sid
Posted by Phillipa on December 7, 2008, at 13:24:10
In reply to Re: I don't never ever in the world, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 10:36:42
Muffled seriously you sound brillient and I sincerely mean that as didn't know any of what you posted history wise you are a great and wonderful person and please don't down yourself. You are very intelligent to me and loving. Love Phillipa
Posted by turtle on December 7, 2008, at 14:06:59
In reply to I don't never ever in the world, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 1:11:26
(((((((((muffled)))))))))
I'm sorry that you are feeling so troubled right now about what you have been posting. You have shared a lot of yourself lately, very personal and complex things. You have even taken the risk to share how aspects of your experience felt different than that of others. Talk about doubling the posters remorse anxiety!
When I read your posts, including all of the ones in recent days, I see you being respectful, helpful, open, caring, sensitive, smart, and insightful.
It feels to me like you are afraid that you said something wrong, so you are turning on yourself and beating yourself up because you feel so bad. (I recognize this feeling in myself - where does it come from?) I see in you nothing but the best intentions. I so appreciate that you (and all the rest of babblers) continue to put yourself out there. We are all different, and it is so valuable to hear from everyone. Shared views are valuable in that they help us to feel so not alone. New or different viewpoints give us an opportunity to self-examine and grow in a new way, even if it is only to confirm that we are different. I see nothing disrespectful or hurtful in this. I've seen you treat others here with care and respect. You clearly have done a lot of self examination and have much to share.
I so clearly see the good, caring, and compassion in you. I very much wish that you could hold onto this part of yourself too.
Turtle
Posted by Poet on December 7, 2008, at 14:28:38
In reply to sorry to world and all, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 10:24:35
Hi Muffled,
I haven't been around much lately (dwelling in Poet Failureland) but I think your fear of saying something dumb or hurting others does bother you. I don't think you are dumb, and I don't recall you ever offering me anything except advice or support that is far from dumb.
Repeat after me Muffled is not dumb, Muffled is smart. What the hell, Poet is not dumb, Poet is smart.
Take Care.
Poet
Posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 14:58:13
In reply to Re: sorry to world and all » muffled, posted by Poet on December 7, 2008, at 14:28:38
Thanks Sid, seriously, I am just fine, oddly, I always am....I think?
Phillipa, thanks, you have been a real asset to babble.Turtle, thank you too. Its a good point for me to remember, cuz thats what always used to impell me to post, cuz there's plenty of lurkers out there who feel alone, and I like to think maybe they might feel less alone if they read what we all write here.
Poet, you can always make me smile. You got a cool sense of humour that I like. Mebbe we both are ok? So I say it too: Poet is not dumb, Poet is smart. What the hell, Muffled is not dumb, Muffled is smart.
:-)
So nobody to worry bout me. I allus fine. Guess I just really want people to inderstand I not mean to ever hurt is all. Cuz I think sometimes I do. But I am fine. I know I can only do what I do. Just want people to know I care is all cuz all are valuable.
Everybody.
(((((((((babblers)))))))
Let us try and support as best we can.
Thx.
M
Posted by Recently on December 7, 2008, at 15:24:48
In reply to thx, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 14:58:13
> Turtle, thank you too. Its a good point for me to remember, cuz thats what always used to impell me to post, cuz there's plenty of lurkers out there who feel alone, and I like to think maybe they might feel less alone if they read what we all write here.
It's true. I was one of them!
(((everyone)))
Recently
Posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 15:33:30
In reply to Re: thx » muffled, posted by Recently on December 7, 2008, at 15:24:48
Posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 16:10:22
In reply to I don't never ever in the world, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 1:11:26
Okay, I am the guilty one here. I felt very hurt by Muffy's comments a month ago and I told her that it hurt me to be told to go away and post somewhere else. I mentioned that maybe if my threads are too triggering, maybe she shouldn't read my post, to protect herself from being triggered.
I didn't think this issue between us needed to be on the boards, but now they are. Sometimes an apology would go a long way to help a situation, instead of bringing this issue publicly on the boards.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on December 7, 2008, at 16:23:18
In reply to Re: I don't never ever in the world, posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 16:10:22
> Okay, I am the guilty one here. I felt very hurt by Muffy's comments a month ago and I told her that it hurt me to be told to go away and post somewhere else.
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Posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 16:26:19
In reply to Please be civil » SlugSlimersSoSlided, posted by Deputy Dinah on December 7, 2008, at 16:23:18
Sorry that I was uncivil. I don't understand why my post is uncivil in regards to this issue, but I trust your judgment. I am walking away from the boards for awhile. Thanks.
Posted by Dinah on December 7, 2008, at 16:31:10
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Deputy Dinah, posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on December 7, 2008, at 16:26:19
Posted by Phillipa on December 7, 2008, at 20:10:09
In reply to thx, posted by muffled on December 7, 2008, at 14:58:13
Muffled to me you are a great and wonderful person. Yes let's all work together to keep the babble community spirit of acceptance and love. Love Phillipa
Posted by rskontos on December 7, 2008, at 20:16:31
In reply to Re: thx » muffled, posted by Phillipa on December 7, 2008, at 20:10:09
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