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Posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
Do any of you do talk about dreams with your T?
I just started. And it just so happened that the first one that I wanted to discuss was about the two of us. I was soooo nervous about talking about it. It was a great dream, too. It's a new area of discussion for us. Her interpretation was neat. She works from a psychodynamic framework, so dreams are a huge part of that. I'm surprised I haven't brought it up before.
The experience was anxiety-provoking, I was shaking while I entered her office. The first thing I said was, "I'm nervous Dr.______." She looked at me with sincere concern and asked why I was nervous. The previous session I gave a door knob confession that I had this dream about her. It was a good experience, and a necessary one to further our relationship.
Curious about your guys' experience? Do you like/dislike dream work? How did it effect your relationship, if at all?
=)
JayMac
Posted by fleeting flutterby on November 15, 2008, at 17:37:45
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
> Do any of you do talk about dreams with your T?<<
---- Yes, I have quite a bit. Both with my former T., a psychologist and my current T.
> Curious about your guys' experience? Do you like/dislike dream work? How did it effect your relationship, if at all?<<
--------- I don't mind talking about my dreams. They've not ever been of a sexual nature with the T.
I've been told, by T.s that my dreams VERY much explain my subconscious. Like I had a dream about going to see the psychologist but instead of getting therapy he also did "hair" so I was going to get a perm from him-- he started to work on my hair but to my dissappointment he did French braids instead and I was too embarrassed to tell him he did my hair wrong.(the T. is old, gray hair and very reserved-- I bet he doesn't really know a thing about women's hair).... I told him about the dream and he asked me-- " mandy, do you feel like I'm going about helping you in the wrong way?"... *gasp*.... yes, that was how I felt but was fearful to tell him.and with my current T., a few weeks ago I had a dream that I moved to a different house, it had a large fish pond in the backyard and it was covered with a tarp. I didn't want to uncover it but one of my sons grabbed the tarp and pulled it half off the cement fish pond-- to which a 15ft. alligator climbed half out and tried to eat us.
I've been avoiding talking about some things(way past child trauma) with my T. lately and she is aware of it. I told her of that dream and she pondered if the pond/tarp is the dark covered past and the alligator is the fear I have to uncover it-- it might EAT me up! :o(
anyway-- hope you don't mind me sharing these.... I just think that-- yea, maybe dreams can help us and our T. to better understand our emotional state. i think I don't dream of T. in relationships with me because attachement scares the H....eck out of me. I'm not even able to allow such a connection in my subconscious .... just don't trust others to get THAT close.thank you for this subject-- I find it very interesting.
flutterby-mandy
Posted by fleeting flutterby on November 17, 2008, at 9:30:17
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
I'm so sorry Jaymac :o(
I do believe I'm a "thread killer".
*sigh*-- I'm sorry I ruined your thread.
I'll just continue lurking.......flutterby-mandy
Posted by JayMac on November 17, 2008, at 17:03:07
In reply to Re: I apologize..... » JayMac, posted by fleeting flutterby on November 17, 2008, at 9:30:17
Haha, you didn't ruin my thread. Thanks for caring though.
I meant to tell you that I really enjoyed your dreams!
I think that people pick and choose what threads they wish to respond to, and if this isn't one of them, then that's ok.
I do appreciate your response! I am more than happy to converse with you about my dreams as well.
As it turns out, I've had at least 3 nightmares this past weekend. I'm not sure why. They were either really bloody or simply terrifying.
I did go through some emotional ups and downs these past few days, but usually I don't have nightmares.
Posted by lucie lu on November 17, 2008, at 19:15:31
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
I am sorry if you two felt lonely on this thread! And I did read your posts. But truthfully, I feel I am getting behind on answering and have had little time to answer the past couple of days. And the fact is that my T and I don't talk about dreams! Having said all that... were you serious? Did you really think it was something having to do with either of you? It's just a fact of life, sometimes you open a thread and it doesn't get many replies or they take a while to accrue (in my experience, this tends to happen with more interesting ones because it takes time to think about). And this thread hasn't been open long - it was posted only day before yesterday!
And what if it did only get a couple of replies? That just happens....it's happened to me, to most of us. You know it's not about you - you are both posters who get responses from others. Sometimes it just turns out to be one that people prefer to read about than write about!
Lucie
Posted by JayMac on November 17, 2008, at 19:23:44
In reply to Sorry, Jay and Mandy...., posted by lucie lu on November 17, 2008, at 19:15:31
I hope my last post didn't make you, or anyone else, feel obligated to comment. I totally understand that one can only post to a certain number of threads. I certainly do that. I wouldn't want someone to think that just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't care. I read all the threads on here, sometimes I feel like I have something to contribute, other times I just read.
No worries anyone......my feelings aren't hurt.
Thanks for your response Lucie!
=)
Posted by lucie lu on November 17, 2008, at 19:23:49
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
Jay,
Why didn't you just say you've had three nightmares recently? What's that all about?
Responding to something like that is quite different, at least for me, than one that is more abstract and which I may or may not feel I have much to say. Nightmares are disturbing... and I'm happy to listen and help if I can.
As you can tell, your responses in this thread I have found disturbing!
Posted by JayMac on November 17, 2008, at 19:32:03
In reply to Anyway, Jay, about those nightmares??, posted by lucie lu on November 17, 2008, at 19:23:49
Actually, the nightmares weren't until AFTER I started this thread.
Dreams are a complex subject. I know for some Ts it's not an area of any specific concentration. Anyways.....I think I'll just keep to discussing them between me and my T. Thanks though, Lucie =)
Posted by DAisym on November 17, 2008, at 20:22:36
In reply to Re: I apologize..... » JayMac, posted by fleeting flutterby on November 17, 2008, at 9:30:17
I use to write that all the time! I finally figured out that because I'm West Coast, I post later in the day than everyone else so I'm often last - if you go back and look you can see how many threads I've killed.
Weekend posts are hard, and be aware, the closer we get to the Holidays, the busier people are. So don't take it personally - it is about time and ability to write coherent answers when our families are around and driving us crazy. :)
Posted by fleeting flutterby on November 17, 2008, at 21:03:01
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
Hey guys,
Jay-- thanks for replying back to me. So sorry you've had nightmares. those can be upsetting sometimes. If you want to run them by someone, I'm here to listen.(you can PM if that's more comfortable) I have nightmares quite a bit. :o(
Lucie Lu--- ummmmm.... guess that's what the "personality disorder" part of me is about-- hard to realize sometimes that things aren't about ME. I have strong self-persecutory notions....*blushing*..... feel all is against me. I'm sorry if my reaction bothered you. I will try to keep such matters to myself. I woudln't want to upset anyone here.
DAisym--- thank you for explaining. It's nice to feel understood. I know I'm a bit "mental" about some things.... I am working on it..... socializing is difficult for me(may come natural to some and they don't give things a second thought).... I need much practice.
Hope no one was offended-- I didn't mean my reaction towards anyone but myself. was very much conditioned to believe things are my fault.
carry on--
flutterby- mandy
Posted by lucie lu on November 17, 2008, at 21:15:29
In reply to Re: Dreams, posted by fleeting flutterby on November 17, 2008, at 21:03:01
Hi Mandy,
I think you misunderstood (I knew I didn't phrase that well). When I said I was disturbed, I didn't mean as in a "do not disturb" sign! I meant disturbed as in concerned. It concerned me that you two felt left out because I like you both and it is so easy to take things personally when, as Daisy says, it's usually just mundane things like day of the week. But she said it a lot better than I did.
And don't disappear! I was just thinking that it was nice to see you posting here again.
Take care, Lucie
Posted by vwoolf on November 18, 2008, at 5:19:57
In reply to Dreams, posted by JayMac on November 15, 2008, at 13:34:23
I find dream work very important. Much like my art work. It reveals things about my unconscious processes that I am not aware of (because they are unconscious, duh). However because dreams are so revealing, and because I can't control what is going to come out, I find I am very anxious before bringing them up in T. For example, I have a dream from about two weeks ago that I have typed up and have been carrying around in my bag ever since. Each session I try and each session I can't find the courage to deal with it. My T knows it's there, but I am having difficulty trusting her at the moment and just can't bring myself to share it with her. Sigh. I suppose this too will pass.
Posted by JayMac on November 18, 2008, at 12:42:33
In reply to Re: Dreams » JayMac, posted by vwoolf on November 18, 2008, at 5:19:57
I think it's extraordinary and facinating how our unconscious flows into our dreams, our art, and practically anything else, as if it's one constant stream.
Posted by JayMac on November 18, 2008, at 17:37:08
In reply to Re: Dreams » JayMac, posted by vwoolf on November 18, 2008, at 5:19:57
I completely enjoy all that points to our unconscious. Dreams are an especially good way to experience the unconscious because it's universal. I'm glad you can relate!
Posted by rskontos on November 19, 2008, at 11:08:08
In reply to Re: Dreams » vwoolf, posted by JayMac on November 18, 2008, at 17:37:08
JayMac,
My p-doc who is my t, will ask me if I have had any dreams lately. Often my dreams will be flashbacks, etc. Anyway, his interpretions are often quite the opposite of what I meant so very thought provoking. It leads me to think in different terms, and then sometimes I go back and argue.
Sometimes I will not tell him about the dreams as I am not ready and he will wait. He understands that it is just hard for me to open up. Some dreams I just can't share yet. Maybe never. He does get this.
I am sorry about your nightmares, I have them too. I do sometimes tell him about those. And I have found him to most helpful to help me sort them out.
rsk
We have had most interesting discussions regarding dreams and their place in the psyche.
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