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Posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 17:58:20
have you ever noticed how when you really need someone, no one is there. And when it rains, it thunderstorms? Can anyone make sense of this?
and why do brains shutdown during high stress? survival of the fittest? Is the feeling at the top of the head that arrives when stressed cortisol rushing to the brain? one would expect that our bodies would protect us, and during high stress we would function at an improved level. Or maybe we do function at an improved level but today it is a primitive function.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2005, at 19:20:50
In reply to stress, brains and cortisol, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 17:58:20
> have you ever noticed how when you really need someone, no one is there.
Murphy's law. Like how buttered toast always lands buttered side down :-)
> and why do brains shutdown during high stress?Overload. Intense responses (stress or emotional responses) lead to disorganised behaviour...
> one would expect that our bodies would protect us, and during high stress we would function at an improved level.
Stress can motivate us to be productive...
Its when the stress is too high that it tends to hinder rather than help.I think it depends on how intense the stress is...
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 19:46:16
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2005, at 19:20:50
> > have you ever noticed how when you really need someone, no one is there.
>
> Murphy's law. Like how buttered toast always lands buttered side down :-)
>yeah! Always happens that way
> > one would expect that our bodies would protect us, and during high stress we would function at an improved level.
>
> Stress can motivate us to be productive...
> Its when the stress is too high that it tends to hinder rather than help.
> I think it depends on how intense the stress is...
>yeah thats what I mean, intense stress. The times when you really can't afford to shutdown, it seems to contradict my logic.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2005, at 20:01:16
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 19:46:16
>The times when you really can't afford to shutdown,
yeah. murphey's law again...
given that cats always land right side up
and given that toast always lands butter side down...if you strap a piece of toast (buttered side up) to the back of a cat...
what do you reckon would happen?????
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 20:50:16
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol, posted by alexandra_k on September 18, 2005, at 20:01:16
> >The times when you really can't afford to shutdown,
>
> yeah. murphey's law again...
:-(>
> given that cats always land right side up
> and given that toast always lands butter side down...
>
> if you strap a piece of toast (buttered side up) to the back of a cat...
>
> what do you reckon would happen?????
>
>the cat will roll LOL :-)
Posted by 10derHeart on September 18, 2005, at 21:14:34
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 20:50:16
>> > given that cats always land right side up
> > and given that toast always lands butter side down...
> >
> > if you strap a piece of toast (buttered side up) to the back of a cat...
> >
> > what do you reckon would happen?????>
> the cat will roll LOL :-)well, if this involved my cat....
first, he would lick every bit of
butter off the toast...
then, he'd find a way to
get it unstrapped
then he'd say (in cat language, of course)"Silly humans, strapping toast to cats. How *did* they get put in charge of things anyway?!"
{sorry, couldn't resist a cat reference...}
Posted by orchid on September 18, 2005, at 21:15:27
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 19:46:16
> > > one would expect that our bodies would protect us, and during high stress we would function at an improved level.
> yeah thats what I mean, intense stress. The times when you really can't afford to shutdown, it seems to contradict my logic.
-- Actually bodies do function at a higher level when stress is there - but usually physically rather than mentally. That is how our brains are designed - to enable us to run rather than to think when there is a stress. Brains perceive all stress as external physical threat at some level - kind of from an evolutionary point of view.
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 21:23:39
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » rainbowbrite, posted by orchid on September 18, 2005, at 21:15:27
> > > > one would expect that our bodies would protect us, and during high stress we would function at an improved level.
>
> > yeah thats what I mean, intense stress. The times when you really can't afford to shutdown, it seems to contradict my logic.
>
> -- Actually bodies do function at a higher level when stress is there - but usually physically rather than mentally. That is how our brains are designed - to enable us to run rather than to think when there is a stress. Brains perceive all stress as external physical threat at some level - kind of from an evolutionary point of view.
>Makes sense
do you know if that feeling of dizziness and headache is the cortisol rush?
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 21:24:23
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol, posted by 10derHeart on September 18, 2005, at 21:14:34
lol
Posted by orchid on September 18, 2005, at 21:30:32
In reply to Re: stress, brains and cortisol » orchid, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 21:23:39
> > -- Actually bodies do function at a higher level when stress is there - but usually physically rather than mentally. That is how our brains are designed - to enable us to run rather than to think when there is a stress. Brains perceive all stress as external physical threat at some level - kind of from an evolutionary point of view.
> >
>
> Makes sense
>
> do you know if that feeling of dizziness and headache is the cortisol rush?--- I don't know about that. Check with your doctor. But usually people do kind of feel dizzy and even faint at extreme stress. Maybe the blood flow kind of gets restricted to the brain, and flows more to the muscles. But that is just my guess from what I have read in the past. You should check with your doc if that is a serious issue.
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 13:44:39
In reply to stress, brains and cortisol, posted by rainbowbrite on September 18, 2005, at 17:58:20
I can't seem to manage it effectively.
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 13:57:54
In reply to so overwhelmed, posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 13:44:39
needed to get that out
Posted by Damos on September 19, 2005, at 17:41:12
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed, posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 13:57:54
:-D (did I get it right?)
Hey Rain, you okay, you're not sounding your bright, beautiful rainbow self.
Sending Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Inigo, Violet, warm rainbow wishes your way.
Damos
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 18:30:59
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » rainbowbrite, posted by Damos on September 19, 2005, at 17:41:12
Ive been better. It Just feels like things always hit you at once and you are left with little to help you get by. Feels like this is becoming a pattern with me and I am not having much fun with it. I think I have been playing happy for a long time and now I think, Im full of sh*t.
Thanks for all the rainbow wishes I tried to catch them all :-) and yes you got it right :-D
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 18:54:25
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » Damos, posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 18:30:59
I think Im just in a bad mood . sorry to be so negative.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 19, 2005, at 21:13:44
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed, posted by rainbowbrite on September 19, 2005, at 18:54:25
Hey sweetie,
Didn't you go off your meds awhile ago? Could that be part of what's going on?And how about therapy? Are you going to follow up?
Just keep doing things one at a time.
I'm sorry things are overwhelming.
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 20, 2005, at 8:11:47
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » rainbowbrite, posted by gardenergirl on September 19, 2005, at 21:13:44
> Hey sweetie,
> Didn't you go off your meds awhile ago? Could that be part of what's going on?
>I did, and I was fine. But there have been some really stressful events recently that Im having a difficult time with. I just restarted my AD when I realized how overwhellming it was. Maybe it is in part?
> And how about therapy? Are you going to follow up?
I cancelled last week but I am going this Thursday.
> Just keep doing things one at a time.
Im trying, today Im going to try to stay calm and uninvolved in any outside cr*p.
> I'm sorry things are overwhelming.
>Thanks
Posted by gardenergirl on September 21, 2005, at 23:43:50
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on September 20, 2005, at 8:11:47
Hope the AD kicks in quickly and that stresses slip away somehow...magic wand is in shop :(
Take care,
gg
Posted by alexandra_k on September 22, 2005, at 1:47:43
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on September 20, 2005, at 8:11:47
Hey. How are you doing now?
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 22, 2005, at 21:37:20
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on September 22, 2005, at 1:47:43
better, much better. Im pretty sure it wasnt my meds or lack of, it was a few things that happened, ugh! My head was in overload for too long.
thanks,
How are you doing?
Posted by alexandra_k on September 23, 2005, at 10:20:15
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 22, 2005, at 21:37:20
Glad you are doing better :-)
I reckon I'd find it pretty hard getting into a new semester after working so hard over the summer too. Makes work seem fairly never ending... I guess you haven't had a proper relaxing holiday in a while.But this is coming from someone who needs a good couple months off every year...
I'm doing okay.
Spent most of today agonising over writing an abstract. Ugh. I do hate those. Managed to get it done but I think the second sentance is about a paragraph long...Going to Melborne next week
yay
Only been to the airport so it will be great to have a bit of a look aroundIt's keeping me going :-)
Posted by rainbowbrite on September 23, 2005, at 14:13:28
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on September 23, 2005, at 10:20:15
> Glad you are doing better :-)
> I reckon I'd find it pretty hard getting into a new semester after working so hard over the summer too. Makes work seem fairly never ending... I guess you haven't had a proper relaxing holiday in a while.
>yeah, Its hard starting school again. But it will be so so so soon that I will be finished :-D. And then I think Im allowed to have an in-between phase life change breakdown LOL ITs a documented occurance isnt it hahaha So maybe Ill go away somewhere to cope with it lol. :-)
> But this is coming from someone who needs a good couple months off every year...
> \i think I like that idea as well hehe
> I'm doing okay.
> Spent most of today agonising over writing an abstract. Ugh. I do hate those. Managed to get it done but I think the second sentance is about a paragraph long...
>Ugh is right. As for that sentence, as long as it sounds right lol read it later and it will break down naturally for you.
> Going to Melborne next week
> yay
> Only been to the airport so it will be great to have a bit of a look around
>
> It's keeping me going :-)
>
>Oh yay!! thats so cool. I hear it is really nice there. I want to go there one day. Im sure you will have so much fun, airports just don't do the cities/city's (your apostrophe thread has got me confused now lol) they are in justice lol. Are you going with friends or for school?
to keep it psych related, just dont want to be redirected :-), I saw T for 2nd time. It was ok.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 23, 2005, at 19:23:03
In reply to change subject lol twas depressing » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 23, 2005, at 14:13:28
> But it will be so so so soon that I will be finished :-D.
:-) Yeah, thats something to look foward to.
>And then I think Im allowed to have an in-between phase life change breakdown LOL ITs a documented occurance isnt it hahaha So maybe Ill go away somewhere to cope with it lol. :-)
Absolutely. I think it should be a required part of study ;-)
> Ugh is right. As for that sentence, as long as it sounds right lol read it later and it will break down naturally for you.Ah... Too late now. Done done can't be undone. But oh well... Its only an abstract...
> Are you going with friends or for school?Going with office mate to conference :-)
> to keep it psych related, just dont want to be redirected :-), I saw T for 2nd time. It was ok.
:-)
'ok'.
hmm.
is it better or worse or much the same as you thought it was going to be
(thinking of what you were saying about finding it hard / embarrassing to talk about stuff?)
Posted by gardenergirl on September 23, 2005, at 23:12:19
In reply to Re: so overwhelmed » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on September 23, 2005, at 10:20:15
> but I think the second sentance is about a paragraph long...
Ugh, I have that same problem...
gg
>
Posted by gardenergirl on September 23, 2005, at 23:15:24
In reply to change subject lol twas depressing » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on September 23, 2005, at 14:13:28
> > yeah, Its hard starting school again. But it will be so so so soon that I will be finished :-D.
Woo hoo! Light at the end of the tunnel stuff! That's good. We'll have to have a virtual party for you.
>And then I think Im allowed to have an in-between phase life change breakdown LOL ITs a documented occurance isnt it hahaha So maybe Ill go away somewhere to cope with it lol. :-)
Agreed. I see folks with that issue. It's absolutely allowed, and even necessary at times. You are entitled to a very relaxing break when you are done.
>
> > But this is coming from someone who needs a good couple months off every year...And who doesn't?
> > \
>
>
> to keep it psych related, just dont want to be redirected :-), I saw T for 2nd time. It was ok.Cool! Glad it went well.
gg
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