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Posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 18:30:51
Does anyone feel what therapists are doing to them is actually playing with their emotions??
I have been having this feeling lately, that it is actually playing with my emotions.. And if the therapist doesn't know how to play it well from end to end, he/she shouldnt even attempt it in the first place, because the dangers of it getting out of hand are so very high.
(Of course it is strictly my experience and my perspective, and I am not generalizing it)
Posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 19:07:08
In reply to Is therapy like playing with emotions??, posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 18:30:51
I am becoming somewhat bitter and projecting my own unhappiness here. And it isn't good for anyone here.
I think I shall take some time off and come back after a few days.
Posted by cricket2 on July 4, 2005, at 19:28:00
In reply to Please ignore this post. I apologize. » pinkeye, posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 19:07:08
Don't go away Pinkeye. That's what I would do. It's something I am trying to correct.
You have some real wisdom to share.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 4, 2005, at 21:47:21
In reply to Re: Please ignore this post. I apologize. » pinkeye, posted by cricket2 on July 4, 2005, at 19:28:00
Yeah, don't go away.
How about starting it with 'I feel'.
Whats up???
Posted by Susan47 on July 4, 2005, at 21:55:24
In reply to Re: Please ignore this post. I apologize., posted by alexandra_k on July 4, 2005, at 21:47:21
Yes don't feel like you can't express what you feel. The answer to your original post is yes, I've felt that way with a therapist. I've felt manipulated. How do you feel?
Posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 22:14:23
In reply to Re: Please ignore this post. I apologize., posted by Susan47 on July 4, 2005, at 21:55:24
thanks everyone.. I will just take a quick break for a few short days.. i think it will help me gain some clarity as well.
Susan - I don't feel manipulated. Never. Just that by nature therapy is a huge minefield, and one has to be really really careful of what one is doing..
Posted by Cecilia on July 8, 2005, at 5:03:01
In reply to Is therapy like playing with emotions??, posted by pinkeye on July 4, 2005, at 18:30:51
I feel that therapy is EXACTLY like playing with emotions. They manipulate constantly. They get you attached and dependent and then its like surgery (only without informed consent), every week they open you up, leave you raw and bleeding, sorry time`s up, thanks for the check, you can go back into the waiting room now with a raw gaping wound, we`ll probe some more next week. People talk about side effects with meds, I think the side effects of therapy can be far worse. Meds only hurt your body, therapists can destroy your soul. Cecilia
Posted by Susan47 on July 11, 2005, at 23:15:17
In reply to Re: Is therapy like playing with emotions??, posted by Cecilia on July 8, 2005, at 5:03:01
I don't believe they see it quite the same way, though. Their brains seem to function normally.. especially the males. Their brain's "deep limbic system" isn't as strong as a female's. Male therapists - males - simply will not have the same capacity for emotional bonding that women do. Which sucks, if you're a woman. Because you can only be really completely understood by another woman. But a therapist can help you if your problem isn't emotional, or if you're the kind of person who can rationalize her way through an emotional problem. I apparently am not one of them. So my male therapist hurt me, too. And yes, I did feel manipulated like you did, Cecilia. And yes, I think a lot of the time I don't know what I'm talking about, not the way they do. Which makes me even angrier. The assumption is that because they're therapists they'll know what's best for me, but this man knowingly left me in great pain, and I somehow deserve it. It's been like that all my life, why would a therapist be any different? Why would I assume that a man, just because he has "psychologist #" whatever behind his name and Dr. in front of it, would do something good for me? Hah.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 23:31:41
In reply to Re: Is therapy like playing with emotions?? » Cecilia, posted by Susan47 on July 11, 2005, at 23:15:17
I don't know that guys don't have the same capacity for emotional bonding. I mean... I really think some do. Some do. And some women don't seem to have it so it isn't as cut and dried as being a gender issue though it may well be that it is a gender tendancy.
But our therapists aren't really supposed to emotionally bond with us anyways... Well... They aren't supposed to attach to us anyways. Just supposed to facilitate our being attached to them (or not depending on the theorietical orientation) oh I dunno now I'm getting all confused.
I'm not so sure it is about another person completely understanding you it is more about you being able to feel like you are completely understood. or even incompletely understood. Just fairly much understood. But then even that isn't so very important to some theorietical orientations...
> but this man knowingly left me in great pain,
Yes :-(
Maybe... He didn't know how to help you Susan.
And he didn't want to cause you any more pain.>and I somehow deserve it.
No you don't.
>It's been like that all my life,
So you are already primed by your past experiences to interpret your experience with your therapist in the same way.
>why would a therapist be any different?
Because he may have been able to help you learn to interpret differently. But he couldn't.
Posted by Susan47 on July 15, 2005, at 20:53:02
In reply to Re: Is therapy like playing with emotions?? » Susan47, posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 23:31:41
No, he certainly couldn't, not without my consent. And I know I never gave it. Because the therapy system is set up, it's absolutely unavoidable, to be anything but rejecting, in the end. If your problems are around loving the gender of your sexual orientation. Which mine, were. Most definitely.
And aren't anymore, and I'm so incredibly happy about that, I can feel the change, and it's huge. Very Big. :-)
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