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Posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 1:21:32
Last week my p-doc agreed to try and get hold of the t that has been reccomended. To ask for an estimate as to cost and frequency of sessions so that he can write a proposal to give to the funding peoples. To save dragging the whole process out necessarily...
He is meeting them tomorrow.
This week he said that he tried to contact her. He left a message for her, but that she hadn't gotten back to him yet.
I phoned her after that. She didn't know what on earth I was talking about. I asked if he had contacted her and he hadn't. She didn't know anything about me. I tried talking to her but I guess I was pretty upset and a bit incoherant by then. She said she would need to talk to him...
WHY IS HE SO FULL OF SH*T???
I sent him an email saying that I phoned her and she said that he hadn't left a message for her. That he had better get on to that soon.
Grr.
I felt like an *ss for calling her like that :-(
So I sent her an email to try to explain...
Just going from bad to worse I think...
She sounded nice...
I wish I could just curl up into a hole somewhere.
Posted by All Done on March 29, 2005, at 1:37:51
In reply to I rang her up..., posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 1:21:32
Wow. How frustrating for you :(.
I hope he can get his act together and get things straightened out for tomorrow.
On the upside, I'm glad it sounds like she's nice. I'm sure your email to her will clarify things and the two of you can get off to a good start once the paperwork stuff is settled.
(((((alexandra)))))
Take care,
Laurie
Posted by 10derHeart on March 29, 2005, at 1:55:16
In reply to I rang her up..., posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 1:21:32
Sheesh, Alex, you are forever being tested, aren't you?
poor thing....yikes.But with your p-doc - more of the same garbage, right? Am I remembering correctly this IS his modus operendi (sp.?) ? To mess around, be slow, be disorganized, fail to follow through...generally...be a shite? If so, hang in there, he's slowing it down, but not stopping anything. Just stay all over his dumb *ss.
And hey, she didn't say anything negative, right? Just was caught off guard. So that's good.
It'll be okay somehow.
Even if it isn't, it still will be.
It has to be - okay - because...
'cause I said so! (((alex)))
Posted by gardenergirl on March 29, 2005, at 3:57:55
In reply to Re: I rang her up... » alexandra_k, posted by 10derHeart on March 29, 2005, at 1:55:16
Oh sweetie, I think for some time now you have suspected that he has said stuff that he hasn't yet done. Given how important this is to you, and how much hope it generated, I don't blame you a bit for calling her.
And then of course another disappointment. I'm sor sorry your pdoc is such a procrastinator. But you busted him this time. Hopefully this will light a fire under his tushie. And you emailing the new T probably explained it well. I'm sure she will understand why you were upset. You are a smart cookie. Even if you felt incoherent, I'm sure she got the picture.
((((((((AlexandraK)))))))))
gg
Posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 5:04:15
In reply to Re: ((((((((((alexandra)))))))))), posted by All Done on March 29, 2005, at 1:37:51
Thanks :-)
It is amazing how much better one can feel when one is really stressed about something and then you guys come along and understand. Phew. :-)
Hmm. He told me he came up with a 'general ballpark figure' that sounded pretty good to me. I found out how much she typically charges per session and that would give me two sessions per week :-)
He said that it is a 'bargain' compared to inpatient treatment (which would be my other option) and so he said he would push for that. I was tempted to say I'd like to tag along to the meeting - but I have classes tomorrow so I guess I'll just have to trust him to do a good job of putting my case foward.
> On the upside, I'm glad it sounds like she's nice.
:-)
Yup. She does sound nice
:-)>I'm sure your email to her will clarify things
Yeah. That is what I was hoping for... Also to let her know that I am alive and that I really want to work with her. And that there is bargining underway. I thought it only fair to inform her of the ballpark figure that the doctor had arrived at etc. And she gets a chance to think about it and maybe even advocate for me better than he is...
Posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 5:13:38
In reply to Re: I rang her up... » alexandra_k, posted by 10derHeart on March 29, 2005, at 1:55:16
> Sheesh, Alex, you are forever being tested, aren't you?
Yes.... Someone out there must be trying to teach me patience ;-)
> But with your p-doc - more of the same garbage, right? Am I remembering correctly this IS his modus operendi (sp.?) ? To mess around, be slow, be disorganized, fail to follow through...generally...be a shite?
Yup.
Though he can be really sweet too at times. That is what is so hard. He is well intentioned. Well intentioned but hopeless. He even left the room to make a call when his pager went off today. AND WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. Sheesh.>If so, hang in there, he's slowing it down, but not stopping anything. Just stay all over his dumb *ss.
Yeah. I do nag. He has taught me to be verrrrrry persistent.
> And hey, she didn't say anything negative, right? Just was caught off guard. So that's good.Yeah. I managed to splutter something about how I had an assessment done by xxx and that she had made a dx and reccomended her as a t. She seemed really suprised that she had been reccomended. She was like 'why did she reccomend me??' (sounded like she had no idea who this person was). I said that she had talked to her colleagues about finding someone to treat me in this region and they had suggested her. Then she was like 'oh, I see'.
She seemed really keen to ring off and go check her messages (because I told her the p-doc said he had left one) and she said she'd call me back. But then she did (and got my answer phone) and said that there wasn't any message. So I sent her the email (cause I couldn't get through) to clarify (how hopeless he could be with that) and about the funding situation and the ballpark figure. In case she was starting to think I was a crank. And how he would probably need a more accurate figure and a proposal before they would seriously consider it.
:-)
Posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 5:18:29
In reply to Re: I rang her up..., posted by gardenergirl on March 29, 2005, at 3:57:55
> Oh sweetie, I think for some time now you have suspected that he has said stuff that he hasn't yet done.
Yeah. Also confirmed on a number of occasions.
>Given how important this is to you, and how much hope it generated, I don't blame you a bit for calling her.
Yeah. He asked me if I had called her. I said that last week he told me NOT to and that he said he was going to. That was when he said that he had left a message but she hadn't gotten back to him.
He is so full of it.
And even if you nail him he won't apologise. And even if you say you think an apology is in order he will give a brief (not very genuine) token one. And then carry on with the same old sh*t. Hopeless... I have made him squirm a bit... With my list of about 9 things that he does that are really innappropriate (IMO) - like leaving the room to make phone calls right in the middle of a session. And going away to conference and forgetting to tell me that he has to cancel the session. And then not even apologising afterwards. Hopeless...
>And you emailing the new T probably explained it well.I hope so. That was what I was trying to do.
>I'm sure she will understand why you were upset. You are a smart cookie. Even if you felt incoherent, I'm sure she got the picture.
:-)
I hope so.
Posted by Dinah on March 29, 2005, at 9:59:22
In reply to I rang her up..., posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 1:21:32
I'm glad you were an advocate on your own behalf. :)
Posted by Shortelise on March 29, 2005, at 12:25:20
In reply to I rang her up..., posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2005, at 1:21:32
Of COURSE you phoned her! Why not? It seems to me to be a perfectly sensible thing to do. You know your Pea Doc and his habits, and you are impatient to get started with the new T --- so yes, you phoned her.
Give yourself a break, Alex. I'm sure you made sense to this T and that she understands your position somewhat, and why you called her.
My question is this: why do we all so often see ourselves in this light of making fools of oourselves?? I'm guilty of this too, of always thinking the worst of myself, believing that whatever I said shouldn't have been said, or said in that way, etc. I suffer agonies over this.
Hugs,
ShortE
Posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 3:05:35
In reply to Re: I rang her up... » alexandra_k, posted by Dinah on March 29, 2005, at 9:59:22
:-)
Yeah. I kind of have to be... But I really wanted to hear her voice... Though I can't quite let myself believe that I'm actually going to be able to work with her yet...
Posted by alexandra_k on March 31, 2005, at 3:16:03
In reply to Re: I rang her up... » alexandra_k, posted by Shortelise on March 29, 2005, at 12:25:20
> Of COURSE you phoned her! Why not? It seems to me to be a perfectly sensible thing to do.
:-)
>You know your Pea Doc and his habits, and you are impatient to get started with the new T --- so yes, you phoned her.
Yup. Wow, do I feel better now.
:-)
I like that. Pea Doc. You suggested that before as his honorary title - right? I am inclined to agree... I was reluctant to get there, but yup. He is a pea Doc indeed :-)
> Give yourself a break, Alex. I'm sure you made sense to this T and that she understands your position somewhat, and why you called her.Yeah. I think the email helped clarify that.
> My question is this: why do we all so often see ourselves in this light of making fools of ourselves?? I'm guilty of this too, of always thinking the worst of myself, believing that whatever I said shouldn't have been said, or said in that way, etc. I suffer agonies over this.Hmm. I think it is something to do with low self esteem...
:-(
Pea Doc came up with a monthly figure and thought he'd try and get funding for that for 6 months. I heard back from him today that he managed to talk to the t (gee I wonder if she called him...) and she said half that monthly figure - for 12 months.
He took that to the funding committee and they said they want
1) Proof that WINZ (welfare) won't help me out.
(Or how much they will help me out and they won't fund that amount).
2) Proof that ACC (they pay for therapy if it is the result of sexual abuse) won't help me out. (Or how much they will help me out and they won't fund that amount).
3) A written proposal (I KNEW IT!!!).And their only concern was that they would be setting precedent for other people to request that they do the same thing for them - and the case my Pea Doc cited there was eating disorders.
Golly gee, does that mean the service doesn't have anyone to treat eating disorders?????
OMG.
I don't think he can mean it like that. I don't see how funding me to see someone outside the service when there isn't anyone to treat me inside the service is setting precedent for them to have to fund external treatment for eating disorders.
Strange people...
So I sent him the inevitable response:
AND HOW LONG IS ALL THAT GOING TO TAKE???
And now we shall just have to wait...
Though to be fair, it looks good :-)
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