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Posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
Does anyone SI more when they're feeling happy and coping well?
Lately, when I'm really depressed, I don't have the energy to do it, but it's when I start coping that the urge comes to me. When I start feeling more up. I wonder if it's a way to moderate the coping, like, on some level I'm worried about coping too well and I want to still be dependent or something.
On another note, last weekend on Babble I saw a post in which someone wrote something about cutting in the subject line and just seeing that triggered my urge to cut, which I then did. So, I think we should be careful not to put stuff like that in the subject lines and I see the importance of the warnings. But maybe that's just me. (I don't mean to blame anyone for my cutting. I guess I'm just asking that folks try to be careful about stuff like this in the future.)
Posted by cubic_me on March 26, 2004, at 10:42:14
In reply to SI question (caution may trigger), posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
Hi Crushed,
I find that I SI more when I'm going into or out of depression, but I also SI when I'm feeling OK. I think that for me, I have too little energy to SI when I am very depressed, but a little more when I am moderately depressed. When I am coping better, and seeming on the outside to be 'happy' etc, I still feel some degree of depression on the inside, and SI is a way of telling myself that even though I'm putting on this facade of being OK, really I'm not.
I find that SI can really help me cope if I do it before a situation where I have to seem happy and outgoing, because I still know that the marks on my body are there and that there is something wrong. It is a way of taking care of me. I hope that all makes some kind of sense!!
You said about the trigger warnings too. I don't personally get triggered by words or pictures, but I can understand that some people do, and I'm happy to put trigger warnings on posts that need it and keep post titles non-graphic.
_me x
> Does anyone SI more when they're feeling happy and coping well?
> Lately, when I'm really depressed, I don't have the energy to do it, but it's when I start coping that the urge comes to me. When I start feeling more up. I wonder if it's a way to moderate the coping, like, on some level I'm worried about coping too well and I want to still be dependent or something.
>
> On another note, last weekend on Babble I saw a post in which someone wrote something about cutting in the subject line and just seeing that triggered my urge to cut, which I then did. So, I think we should be careful not to put stuff like that in the subject lines and I see the importance of the warnings. But maybe that's just me. (I don't mean to blame anyone for my cutting. I guess I'm just asking that folks try to be careful about stuff like this in the future.)
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 11:08:22
In reply to SI question (caution may trigger), posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
i totally agree about the importance of content in the subject line..
sometimes i have to avoid the board altogether.
i like the idea of having a seperate board for the subject,i think it would be less likely for someone to stumble across "triggers" when trying to stay clear.
si when happy?,,maybe you do it because you need to feel grounded.
maybe its a control issue and you want to be able to chose your own feelings..
maybe you feel "bad" emotions are creeping up on you and you want to "drain " them away before they take hold...
?
whatever reason you have,,its never good enough to disrespect yourself...
i hope you will stop soon,,how about today?
j
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 11:51:52
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger) » crushedout, posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 11:08:22
i was thinking about what i posted to you..
it was too harsh..
what i really mean is...
"please stop"
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 13:21:01
In reply to wait, crush...(trigger), posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 11:51:52
okay , okay,
now i am just being an idiot,..oh my
this post is really got me confused..i should have never posted to you ,,im sorry if i was rude,,
i think i was giving myself some advice,,
?
look now i am stalking you!
please accept my apology..
i am sorry..
jyl
Posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 13:41:42
In reply to Re: wait, crush...(trigger), posted by justyourlaugh on March 26, 2004, at 13:21:01
you didn't offend me at all.
Posted by terrics on March 26, 2004, at 16:42:45
In reply to SI question (caution may trigger), posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
You make an interesting point. Does reading about someone elses SI trigger one to SI? I really think it is possible. It could be the farthest thing from someone's mind, but the words bring it to the forefront...and now someone else is thinking of it and maybe doing it , not just the poster. Initially I though a separate board to be a waste of time but I am having second thoughts. terrics
Posted by Elle2021 on March 27, 2004, at 0:50:03
In reply to SI question (caution may trigger), posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
> Does anyone SI more when they're feeling happy and *coping well?* Lately, when I'm really depressed, I don't have the energy to do it, but *it's when I start coping* that the urge comes to me
According to my therapist, SI is a coping mechanism.
Elle
Posted by crushedout on March 27, 2004, at 10:25:17
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger), posted by Elle2021 on March 27, 2004, at 0:50:03
> > Does anyone SI more when they're feeling happy and *coping well?* Lately, when I'm really depressed, I don't have the energy to do it, but *it's when I start coping* that the urge comes to me
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> According to my therapist, SI is a coping mechanism.
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> Elleyeah, that's why it seems odd to me that i would start to use when i already seem to be coping well.
>
Posted by crushedout on March 27, 2004, at 10:27:39
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger) » crushedout, posted by cubic_me on March 26, 2004, at 10:42:14
that makes a lot of sense. thank you.> Hi Crushed,
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> I find that I SI more when I'm going into or out of depression, but I also SI when I'm feeling OK. I think that for me, I have too little energy to SI when I am very depressed, but a little more when I am moderately depressed. When I am coping better, and seeming on the outside to be 'happy' etc, I still feel some degree of depression on the inside, and SI is a way of telling myself that even though I'm putting on this facade of being OK, really I'm not.
>
> I find that SI can really help me cope if I do it before a situation where I have to seem happy and outgoing, because I still know that the marks on my body are there and that there is something wrong. It is a way of taking care of me. I hope that all makes some kind of sense!!
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> You said about the trigger warnings too. I don't personally get triggered by words or pictures, but I can understand that some people do, and I'm happy to put trigger warnings on posts that need it and keep post titles non-graphic.
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> _me x
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> > Does anyone SI more when they're feeling happy and coping well?
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> > Lately, when I'm really depressed, I don't have the energy to do it, but it's when I start coping that the urge comes to me. When I start feeling more up. I wonder if it's a way to moderate the coping, like, on some level I'm worried about coping too well and I want to still be dependent or something.
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> > On another note, last weekend on Babble I saw a post in which someone wrote something about cutting in the subject line and just seeing that triggered my urge to cut, which I then did. So, I think we should be careful not to put stuff like that in the subject lines and I see the importance of the warnings. But maybe that's just me. (I don't mean to blame anyone for my cutting. I guess I'm just asking that folks try to be careful about stuff like this in the future.)
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Posted by crushedout on March 28, 2004, at 18:17:29
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger) » crushedout, posted by terrics on March 26, 2004, at 16:42:45
I think using warnings in the subject lines and not using graphic language in the subject lines could also work, without a separate board. (It just occurred to me that maybe this is a discussion better had on admin?)I wonder, though, if even my writing "SI" in the subject line could trigger someone? I assumed that was better (i.e., less graphic and likely to trigger than, for example, the word "cutting" which tends to trigger me), but I'm interested in other people's thoughts on that.
> You make an interesting point. Does reading about someone elses SI trigger one to SI? I really think it is possible. It could be the farthest thing from someone's mind, but the words bring it to the forefront...and now someone else is thinking of it and maybe doing it , not just the poster. Initially I though a separate board to be a waste of time but I am having second thoughts. terrics
Posted by Elle2021 on March 28, 2004, at 21:22:54
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger) » Elle2021, posted by crushedout on March 27, 2004, at 10:25:17
> yeah, that's why it seems odd to me that i would start to use when i already seem to be coping well.
My therapist says it can become an addiction. Maybe that is the case in your situation.
Elle
Posted by Elle2021 on March 28, 2004, at 21:30:38
In reply to triggering » terrics, posted by crushedout on March 28, 2004, at 18:17:29
Writing triggering in the subject line and not using graphic language is a good idea.
> I wonder, though, if even my writing "SI" in the subject line could trigger someone?
I think just putting "triggering," might not be specific enough. Posters would know that the post is possibly triggering, but not what it might trigger. If I see a post that just said "triggering" I wouldn't read it. Some days SI posts bother me, other days they don't. "Triggering" covers a multitude of topics, therefore I think it's too vague to stand alone.
I assumed that was better (i.e., less graphic and likely to trigger than, for example, the word "cutting" which tends to trigger me), but I'm interested in other people's thoughts on that.
Definitely better than writing "cutting."
>You make an interesting point. Does reading about someone elses SI trigger one to SI? I really think it is possible.
I've never been triggered to SI by reading about someone else doing it, but like I said before, some days reading about it does bother me. I think that when a person is feeling particularly susceptible, then they must find the will power to glide over the SI posts without reading them. (even though I realize that may be difficult at first).
Elle
Posted by pegasus on March 28, 2004, at 23:18:31
In reply to SI question (caution may trigger), posted by crushedout on March 26, 2004, at 8:36:32
Yes, I totally get triggered by reading about SI. Not all the time, but I've had some of my worst experiences come up that way. But, I think it's important to have a place to talk about that stuff, too. I'm glad that people are putting trigger warnings in their subject lines, although, as Elle said, I still have to avoid those threads, which sometimes is hard for me. But I think that's my own struggle, and not anyone here's responsibility. I'm as often glad to see people talking about it, and grateful for the forum, as I am triggered.
- p
Posted by Elle2021 on March 29, 2004, at 4:19:08
In reply to Re: SI question (caution may trigger), posted by pegasus on March 28, 2004, at 23:18:31
>I'm as often glad to see people talking about it, and grateful for the forum, as I am triggered.
Thank you for being so understanding, I appreciate and admire that.
Elle
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