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Posted by gardenergirl on March 3, 2004, at 15:48:39
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 3, 2004, at 10:16:34
You know, I just realized that I don't daydream or fantasize nearly as much as I used to before starting therapy. Hmmmm.
gg
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 3, 2004, at 16:28:24
In reply to Re: What do you think?, posted by gardenergirl on March 3, 2004, at 15:48:39
Lol I fantasize more and mostly about my T :)
Posted by 64bowtie on March 3, 2004, at 20:20:14
In reply to Re: What do you think?, posted by gardenergirl on March 3, 2004, at 15:48:39
There's also "mind grind", going over things a 1000 time per minute to be sure of them. OCD trait.
Rod
Posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 2:43:09
In reply to What do you think?, posted by Dinah on March 2, 2004, at 16:54:28
>Does anyone else have an intricate daydream world? Is it really unusual or pathological?
Dinah,
I was just thinking these might be good questions for the next guest speaker.
All Done
Posted by Dinah on March 4, 2004, at 10:23:11
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 2:43:09
Unfortunately, the last guest speaker was over a year or so ago. :)
Reviews of the idea seem decidedly mixed. But I am a stubborn wench. I liked having something to do even for a few seconds in the elevator or walking to my car. So I'm going full tilt to get them back. I don't know if it will work, but I'll go down fighting. I'm immersing myself in the things that remind me of my daydreams or that were inspirations to them.
And my therapist can go to h*ll. He's been difficult lately anyway. Taking offense at practically everything I do. Seeming to feel that things about me are shameworthy when I don't think they are. I am going to start observing him a lot closer to see if my view of him is purely transference, and if I can, in fact, do quite nicely without him. And I'm going to start taking Risperdal when I'm upset instead of calling or seeing him. It, too, acts as ego glue and helps me avoid fragmentation. And while I don't like the side effects, at this moment, I'm liking my therapist's side effects even worse. That may change, I suppose...
Posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 11:32:24
In reply to Re: What do you think? » All Done, posted by Dinah on March 4, 2004, at 10:23:11
Hmm. ..I meant guest author (Tom Grimes), I think. Maybe we’re not talking about the same thing?
Good for you for trying to get your daydreams back! You are the only one who has to live with yourself, in your mind, each day. Your therapist doesn’t. So, in the end, it’s best for all of us to do what works to make us happy (or at least not so depressed). Gosh, though, I really don’t think he should be making you feel shameful about this or anything for that matter. I mean, honestly, I’ll give him a thing or two about shameworthy! He picked his nose in front of you! :)
Seriously, though, as for doing without your therapist (whether temporarily or indefinitely), well, you don’t seem to me like the type of person that makes hasty decisions. So, my advice for you is probably something you’ve already considered. Take your time. There are ebbs and flows in therapy. When you’re ready, talk to him about all of this and see where it takes you. And if you feel the Risperdal will work for you for a while, by all means, that’s a fine option. Maybe just a step back from him for a little is what you need.
Posted by Dinah on March 4, 2004, at 21:54:02
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 11:32:24
Oh, I thought you meant the next PB Psychology expert, unfortunately few and far between. :)
But as it happens, something extremely stressful has cropped up with my parents that would make tampering with my therapy right now unwise. So I imagine I'll keep things on even keel for a while. I hope he cooperates with that.
Posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 23:51:53
In reply to Re: What do you think? » All Done, posted by Dinah on March 4, 2004, at 21:54:02
I hope everything is okay, Dinah.
From what you've said in the past, I know your therapist will be there for you and with you when you need him. He's one of the good ones :).
Take care,
All Done
Posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 1:11:59
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 4, 2004, at 23:51:53
That certainly is his strength. And I'll be needing it for a while, so maybe he'll go easy on me.
My mother is going in the hospital for at least ten days, but in the past up to a month, because of an infection in her foot (she's diabetic). My father is wheelchair bound and will be at home alone since my brother just went off to train for and then ship off to Afghanistan and won't be coming back for over a year. He really shouldn't be at home alone, but refuses a sitter. I *really* can't have him at my house. My therapist and I were coincidentally discussing it the other day. My therapist said that if I weren't nuts now, spending 24/7 with either of my parents would put me there. And he's right. My father yells and curses and threatens to kill people (which he won't, but it's not pleasant). I would just drop by their house several times a day, but I'm already overwhelmed at work and just can't manage it at the moment, since we're extra busy right now.
And of course, I feel really sorry for my mother, who prizes her independence, and who really needs to be able to get away from my father. She'll be laid up for a while even when she gets home.
I'm going for denial at the moment. Maybe something will happen and it will all turn out fine.
Posted by All Done on March 5, 2004, at 1:59:26
In reply to Re: What do you think? » All Done, posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 1:11:59
I’m sorry to hear about your mom. I have a lot of diabetics in my family and it isn’t easy. So many of my aunts have been hospitalized with complications such as infections in their feet. I wish there was something I could do to help, but they all seem to go through the same things :(.
I can so relate to not wanting to have your dad at your house. After my father passed away, my mom came to live with us for a “mere” eight weeks. Mind you, this is the exact time I entered therapy for the first time in my life. Well, suffice it to say, we didn’t even last six weeks before she had to leave. It was an absolute disaster and I will never do it again. Then again, now, when I have to help her out, it means going to her place and it is really difficult to find the time sometimes. Oh, this all probably sounds terrible of me. I just get to feeling so torn between taking care of my mom and taking care of myself and my family. The thought that did get me through the time when she was with us was that it was only temporary. There was an end in sight.
I really feel for you and I hope you can find some sort of happy medium with your dad for the time he’ll need help. Are there any other relatives besides your brother that might be able to help? Will your husband help out?
Isn’t it such a difficult transition when children have to start being the parents for their parents?
(((Dinah)))
(((Dinah's family)))
Posted by gardenergirl on March 5, 2004, at 11:12:28
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 5, 2004, at 1:59:26
Oh Dinah,
I feel for you. It's such a dilemma and care for older adults is so hard to find, even if your dad were to accept it.My mom is going to have hip surgery soon. She needed to do this at least 12 years ago. I washed my hands of the topic a couple of years ago after nagging her on and off forever. She now chooses this time, when I am so heavy into my dissertation and so close to the end of the road that I can taste the dust on it, to ask me to help her.
AAAAGHH!
Parents!
Please take care of yourself and do what is best for yourself and for your husband and son.
I'll add my hugs ((((Dinah)))) and my prayers for your parents.
gg
Posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 12:26:26
In reply to Re: What do you think?, posted by gardenergirl on March 5, 2004, at 11:12:28
I'm refusing to think about it right now. I told them what I could and couldn't do for them. The rest is going to have to be up to them. I do respect my duty to them, I hope, but you can't get blood from a stone. I just haven't that much to give right now. (My husband detests my family.)
Gardenergirl, I hope you do the same for your Mom. The midst of your dissertation is not the time to choose elective surgery that she has been putting off for years when she'll need your help!
At least my Mom doesn't have any choice, poor thing. Estimates range from losing a toe to most of a foot. And my mother can't deal with being an invalid. So I'm hoping it's just a toe. :(
But I'm refusing to think about it. I've got too much to do at work and I'm not feeling too sturdy.
Posted by Penny on March 5, 2004, at 12:37:59
In reply to Re: Thanks - All Done and » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 12:26:26
Dinah,
Sorry I didn't see this post earlier - it's quite difficult to have to deal with such things when you're feeling stronger, much less so when you aren't.
I'll keep you in my thoughts. Just remember - you can't give more than you have in yourself to give! You have to take care of yourself first and foremost, and worry about what others need secondarily. Because you just can't give what what you don't have.
(((Dinah)))
P
Posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 12:42:07
In reply to Re: (((Dinah))) » Dinah, posted by Penny on March 5, 2004, at 12:37:59
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 5, 2004, at 17:38:04
In reply to Re: Thanks - All Done and » gardenergirl, posted by Dinah on March 5, 2004, at 12:26:26
I am praying for you, dad and mom. As a diabetic I know the fear of losing a limb :( MANY PRAYERS
Posted by Dinah on March 6, 2004, at 9:18:02
In reply to Re: Thanks - All Done and » Dinah, posted by Fallen4myT on March 5, 2004, at 17:38:04
I'm a diabetic too. Diagnosed for about a year and well controlled with Glucophage.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 14:11:16
In reply to Re: Thanks » Fallen4myT, posted by Dinah on March 6, 2004, at 9:18:02
You too :( I have been for 17 years. My last HBA1C was a 6 :-) That is good and I had been ill. Many prayers for you and your family. I have found Dr Bernsteins book on diabetes to be the best in controlling my blood sugars. You may want to check it out. I don't know how to do a link here and am catching up before I go. I hope you get or borrow the book it helps moods too.
HUGS
Posted by All Done on March 8, 2004, at 9:13:31
In reply to What do you think?, posted by Dinah on March 2, 2004, at 16:54:28
Dinah,
I saw this and thought of you.
"You cannot use up creativity. The more you use the more you have." --Maya Angelou
All Done
Posted by Dinah on March 8, 2004, at 10:05:28
In reply to Re: What do you think? » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 8, 2004, at 9:13:31
Posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 10:52:53
In reply to What do you think?, posted by Dinah on March 2, 2004, at 16:54:28
I shared some excerpts of my notebooks and a synopsis of the later daydream with my therapist.
Now he wants to explore more fully what the daydreams meant to me and when and how I used them.
But I think he's decided he can try to help me get them back, because he assigned me homework to try to think of alternate explanations for why I lost them. He thinks I'm inferring cause where there was none. So far I haven't the tiniest clue of any possibilities. But I'm willing to try and am really encouraged that he seems to be willing as well.
Posted by All Done on March 9, 2004, at 11:16:05
In reply to Update on daydreams, posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 10:52:53
I'm really glad that you persisted with your T on exploring your daydreams. I'm even happier that he's coming through for you and will work with you on it.
Good luck and hooray for Dinah's T!
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 9, 2004, at 16:44:15
In reply to Update on daydreams, posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 10:52:53
Dinah I think it rocks and what a smart T to work around it in such a cool way. You will both get more out if it this way I am sure. I am so happy for you...ahhhh to daydream and have fantasies :)
> I shared some excerpts of my notebooks and a synopsis of the later daydream with my therapist.
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> Now he wants to explore more fully what the daydreams meant to me and when and how I used them.
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> But I think he's decided he can try to help me get them back, because he assigned me homework to try to think of alternate explanations for why I lost them. He thinks I'm inferring cause where there was none. So far I haven't the tiniest clue of any possibilities. But I'm willing to try and am really encouraged that he seems to be willing as well.
Posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 17:24:47
In reply to Re: Update on daydreams » Dinah, posted by All Done on March 9, 2004, at 11:16:05
Yeah, I'm really excited about it. I still have to find a way to explain the difference between thinking about the daydreams and immersing myself in them. And then think about his homework assignment too. I really can't think of anything else that fits in timewise. I discovered Babble and my online friends years after. I don't think the depression hit until at least months after. I dunno.
The best part of this session was that this is the first session in a while where I didn't feel an undercurrant of tension and irritation somewhere in the room.
He really is terrific sometimes - often, in fact. :)
Posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 17:25:16
In reply to Re: Update on daydreams, posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 17:24:47
Posted by fallsfall on March 9, 2004, at 18:08:35
In reply to Re: Update on daydreams, posted by Dinah on March 9, 2004, at 17:24:47
I didn't feel an undercurrant of tension and irritation somewhere in the room.
Awesome!
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