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Posted by ZH389 on October 18, 2002, at 1:22:45
Hi,
I am doing therapy for BPD since a year.
I want to ask other Borderlines, how are they doing? Any improvements since you learn about having the disorder? If you do so, can you share with me (us) the medication you used (seems lots of doctors do not have an 'appropriate' medication for such disorder...). And I read that the success to be a 'recovered' borderline is quite low... Now I'm thinking maybe to just 'accept' it and live with it, but the thing is that it doesn't only hurt us but all the people around us are affected by our disorder...I could really need some input as I do not know anybody around me who as this nor 'understand' this kind of disorder. Thank you in advance. Isa.
Posted by Nikita on October 22, 2002, at 12:49:48
In reply to BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success, posted by ZH389 on October 18, 2002, at 1:22:45
Are you on any medications? I have found Risperdal to help level my moods out, I realized it during an argumnet with a man I'm dating and thought, hey, I didn't do any thing wrong, so I went in my room and painted my toenails!
Also, my p-doc gave me a book, Mind Over Mood, to help with my highs and lows, and irrational thinking. It basically has worksheets, which I dreaded, but they actually helped. For instance, in a situation like....the other day my boyfriend was talking about his ex-wife and her niece who was suicidal and his ex was considering having the girl live with her for awhile. My guy told her that probably wouldn't be best for their own three kids, and that "she shouldn't try to save the world." Well, I took that one last line totally out of context. In the back of my mind I know he didn't mean it, but initially all I heard was, my ex is so caring and great but you aren't empathetic, Kim. The workbook comes into play in situations like this. You record what happened and rate your initial moods and feelings, then list what evidence supports those feelings. Then you have to list what might contraindicate those feelings. Then you have to write what the person may have actually been saying, not what you perceived. And finally, you rate your moods again and usually, they come down considerably. I'm trying to apply these steps when I get so upset. In the past, I would blow up, scream in cry, go in the bathroom, and cut. I still do that alot, but I'm working on it. I realize i've always had BPD and that it's going to a lot of work to get control of my emotions and thought process. Good luck. What kind of therapy are you going through?
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 23, 2002, at 10:23:36
In reply to BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success, posted by ZH389 on October 18, 2002, at 1:22:45
I'm finding CBT a help in dealing with the day to day living aspect... and have found zyprexa a huge help.
Are you by any chance in the UK>>
Nikki
Posted by Nikita on October 23, 2002, at 10:31:04
In reply to Re: BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success, posted by NikkiT2 on October 23, 2002, at 10:23:36
No, I live in the U.S., Illinois.
That's what the book I mentioned is all about, CBT. How do you go about it, with a therapist? Mine has me keeping a daily diary of my feelings. I feel like I'm in 8th grade but maybe it will help find the triggers that set me off.
Posted by NikkiT2 on October 23, 2002, at 10:52:23
In reply to Re: BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success » NikkiT2, posted by Nikita on October 23, 2002, at 10:31:04
I do mt CBT with a psychologist... I see her weekly.
I had to keepa mood diary for the first few weeks, but now I just make notes so I remember the stuff I wanna talk to her about!!!We;re mainly dealing with the anxiety and social phobia at the moment, and been dealing with my wierd thoughts... she seems to be helping!!
Nikki
Posted by Nikita on October 23, 2002, at 11:02:46
In reply to Re: BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success » Nikita, posted by NikkiT2 on October 23, 2002, at 10:52:23
Well thanks for sharing your experience, it's nice to know I'm not the only one out there. I love my therapist. I even take my 4 yr. old daughter to her since I'm recently divorced and she's the greatest.
I don't have anxiety or social phobia I don't think, although I get really freaked out and hysterical when I drive past my old house, and I'm the one who wanted the divorce! I guess it's a matter of taking the time to put your feelings into a rational frame.
Posted by Amberlin on October 31, 2002, at 20:09:02
In reply to Re: BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success, posted by Nikita on October 23, 2002, at 11:02:46
I was diagnosed with BPD last year, but with no change in my medication, and no change in cognitive therapy. Yes, I need to find a new doctor.
Posted by ZH389 on November 2, 2002, at 22:45:47
In reply to Re: BORDERLINE Disorder - proper med rate of success » ZH389, posted by Nikita on October 22, 2002, at 12:49:48
Sorry for my late response...been busy.
> Are you on any medications?
Yes. Did tried several who failed but now I am on Remeron. A pill at night. Also have clonazepam for as I am dealing with panic attack/social phobial.
But with Reremon, I don't see 'really' any improvement on the Bordeline side. Give me good night rest and a 'loss of hair' (that worries me) but I am functionnal on this. Not too much 'zombi-like' like previous medication I had.
>I have found Risperdal to help level my moods out, I realized it during an argumnet with a man I'm dating and thought, hey, I didn't do any thing wrong, so I went in my room and painted my toenails!
hehe...I can understand these mood behavior...Never heard of Risperdal (will do a net search on this) Thanks for the info.
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> Also, my p-doc gave me a book, Mind Over Mood, to help with my highs and lows, and irrational thinking. It basically has worksheets, which I dreaded, but they actually helped.
Is this Book availble to purchase?
Do you know the author?
I definitively am searching for a workbook.I saw one also made 'specially for Borderlines'.
As anyone of you have this workbook?
It is called:
"The BPD Recovery Workbook" written by The American Borderline Peer Recovery Network is a 232 page 6 month program that puts you in charge of your own recovery."
website is:
http://www.borderline.250x.com/
>Then you have to write what the person may have actually been saying, not what you perceived.
Yes, we tend to perceive so 'differently' then others...we always feel guilty or attack. Well, that is my case anyways.
>And finally, you rate your moods again and usually, they come down considerably. I'm trying to apply these steps when I get so upset. In the past, I would blow up, scream in cry, go in the bathroom, and cut.
- Hmmm...same here. But I try to control this now. Is hard. It's like I can't keep such intense feelings inside. It has to 'burst out'. And that rage is put on myself...destroying myself mentally and physically.
>I still do that alot, but I'm working on it. I realize i've always had BPD and that it's going to a lot of work to get control of my emotions and thought process.Me too. The cutting started when I was 15. I'm 30 now. I thought I was maybe 'stuck' in my teenage years as I keep going through the same process of behavior and assimilate information all wrong...Well, I thought they were my thoughts OK and them , not. Is weird to learn you are the one who has 'broken' thinking.
>Good luck.Thanks, you too.
>What kind of therapy are you going through?
Cognitive therapy. Once a week. Is ok. I mean I've learn alot about the borderline condition and recognized myslef enough to agree I had this. Now the fact of knowing about this disorder makes me more conscious about my future actions/behaviors...sometimes, instead of 'blowing out' and scream my rage to a person...I will simply leave the place...'to save this person a massacre of words' but the thing is I still cannot handle them. Once gone, I might as well cry and cut or whatever...That is the very hard part for me. To deal with extreme emotions.
Thanks to all that as posted. I'm glad to see others on this board sharing what they go through and maybe together, we can come up with ideas and hopefully find a little rest/peace somewhere in our daily lives.
Isa.
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