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Posted by Essence on July 15, 2002, at 17:32:17
Hi, I have suffered from depression and anxiety/panic disorder for 13 yrs, most of those years haven't been to bad with the right meds. Since January I have been on Remeron, and doing very well considering where I was the previous two years before starting it. I am also on Clonazepam for the anxiety/panic.
My problem is this, I have these "moments" when I feel like I'm going to slip over the edge and lose my mind. This feeling is similar to the feeling of the fear of losing one's mind during a panic attack. Only thing is, I am having these moments without the panic attack attached to it.
These thoughts just come out of nowhere, are fleeting, yet they are very disturbing to me. I can be watching tv, talking with my son, driving, visiting with company etc, and then bang, one hits me.
Does anyone have a similar experience or know what it is I'm experiencing?
Posted by sare on July 15, 2002, at 22:02:32
In reply to What are these moments I'm having?, posted by Essence on July 15, 2002, at 17:32:17
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm glad someone else has experienced that feeling. I am totally freaked out by those "moments." I have them a lot. In fact, I just joined this messaging area tonight because I have had one of my days. I have had a series of those moments today. As they surface, I usually experience some physical chest pain...almost like intense guilt (with no reason to feel guilty.) I also grind down on my jaw a lot when I begin to feel as if I'm about to "lose it." I have no idea what that feeling comes from. I have only seen a doctor twice in my life and have been called (but not formally diagnosed) depressed and anxious. I worry about losing it all the time. I guess you have panic attacks as well? Because it feels sort of like the peak of a Panic attack but without the attack. Let's talk again. :)
~~~Best wishes~~~
Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2002, at 22:13:07
In reply to Re: What are these moments I'm having?, posted by sare on July 15, 2002, at 22:02:32
I have panic attacks but I also have shame attacks. Sudden intense feelings of shame unconnected to anything in real life. It's really disconcerting. But I guess if the anxiety system can run amuck, so can the shame or embarassment system.
Posted by sare on July 15, 2002, at 22:23:14
In reply to Re: Do you have shame attacks too? » sare, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2002, at 22:13:07
I had never heard of a shame attack before...but it sounds right to me. I just feel horrible. Like I'd feel if I killed someone's dog or something. I am in physical pain and just wanna cry. I've been doing this all day. Would you suggest I start seeing someone? With my panic attacks, feelings of "losing it," and this weird guilty/shame feelings?
Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2002, at 22:28:46
In reply to Re: Do you have shame attacks too?, posted by sare on July 15, 2002, at 22:23:14
Well, it wouldn't hurt. There's no shame in being diagnosed with depression or anxiety. There are medications that help a lot of people. I prefer to manage with minimal medications and more therapeutic support with a fair amount of cognitive behavioral therapy thrown in.
So you might want to get a thorough physical, and ask your gp if he/she thinks a referral would be of benefit.
(By the way, I made up the term shame attack. It is descriptive but it isn't in the diagnostic manual. My psychiatrist doesn't have a clue as to what I'm talking about.)
That being said, I still have a fair number of panic attacks and a few shame attacks, but I cope with them much better.
Posted by linkadge on July 19, 2002, at 17:51:03
In reply to Re: Do you have shame attacks too? » sare, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2002, at 22:28:46
This may disgust some people, but sometimes
after I masturbate, I feel extremely guilty
like I will never do it again. I don't know
if it stems from a religious background or what,
most of the time I am frightened from doing it
because I fear the guilt that will ensue.
It is like God knows what I have done and he
is not happy. I get so mad I say aloud 'I don't
give a damn weather or not you like it'. I find
I often have guilt/shame attacks
after many things that are seemingly enjoyable.
Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2002, at 20:50:34
In reply to I have shame attacks, posted by linkadge on July 19, 2002, at 17:51:03
Fortunately attitudes are changing over time. And maybe there will be a day when there will be no guilt attached to perfectly natural activities. Even the parenting book written by my rather strict church mentions it as being nothing to make a child feel shame for.
I'm not sure rather you're a guy or gal, but I'll give you the name of a book recommended by my therapist (who incidentally was completely off the mark in recommending it to me). It's called For Yourself by Lonnie Barbach. And if you're a guy, it may not be the right book for you. But I'm guessing there may be similar books for men.
And you might want to give some thought to talking to a therapist about this. It's not such an uncommon problem, I believe. And cognitive therapy might help quite a bit.
Posted by nwysca on July 26, 2002, at 0:49:56
In reply to I have shame attacks, posted by linkadge on July 19, 2002, at 17:51:03
i get these 'moments' or 'shame attacks' too.. usually something from my past haunting me.. but i too feel intense shame after masturbating as if it's wrong.. some of my many problems
nwysca
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