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Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:25:46
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
Though, of course, if they are happy to train me, then I take it all back.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:32:45
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
my power bill was better this week (well, $70 something rather than $130 something). which is expensive, i think, but not 'oh my God what if it gets worse???' freaking out. so i'm feeling less like they're trying to freeze me to death. which is good.
i am disillusioned with the consumer peoples, though.
but they do do some really good work on some things. a helpful place to start, yeah. i'm just really cross things got so very bad here under their watch.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:32:45
I don't get a sense of whether these people are helping thing develop because they have good intent or whether they are just doing whatever they want because they can...
I don't suppose it matters, overly much. I mean, it does matter. But it's not something I can assess.
I saw something about blood product research. That's right... We have a single donor system for blood and blood products that people volunteer because they are led to believe that their donation will go to people who are injured or needing it for a medical procedure. They believe that if they become injured or needing it for a medical procedure that blood or blood products will likely be available to them... There is a opting in of a public health system that the donors believe in...
And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
There's something awfully wrong about that.
I wonder how much it cost for that to happen, in New Zealand.
The sum would be a national disgrace, I'm sure.
And that... Is why we can't / won't train anybody to do much in the way of anything.
For the good of us all.
I mean... You inject someone with a substance that diluted their blood and you find that there is less of whatever it was that was in their blood before. That's supposed to be a marker of improved health.
It would be like if you added half a glass of water to your whiskey shot and you discovered the alcohol content of the resultant liquid was reduced!
Or you give someone a hand transplant from a person 1/2 their age and then take cells from the hand and declare there is evidence you have rolled back the clock on the person aging!
I mean...
I'm missing something -- right?
That isn't the gist of the research -- is it?
Shakes her head slowly and feels *embarrassed* for (supposedly) medical research.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 5:21:43
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
https://canadiancoinnews.com/new-zealands-brighter-money-printed-canada/
yes, it is money printed in Canada.
it's plastic money, which makes it a good currency for boat people to invest in (I hope that is not racist).
it has security features that probably make it very detectable at airports.
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:25:34
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
>Apparently there is quite the divide between the superwealthy foreigners who aren't really here much
That's something to thank them for.
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:30:35
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
>And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
I've heard of it. You only need to see the energy of 3yo and combine that with the amoralism and desire to commodify of the wealthy. They do something like this in China? Young people executed in prisons?
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:36:28
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:30:35
There has been rumour that the invasion force mounted on the southern US border is an expression of Hebrew values.
You know that line from Shakespeare 'All the world's a stage'? It isn't really about entertainment. On reflection it felt full of menace. For instance, how do you find truth in all this nonsense?
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:41:13
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
>And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
This isn't stem cell research?
I feel queasy. And frightened.
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:47:53
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:45:12
> And why would he want to buy citizenship here, for? Is he wanted for war crimes, back home? None of it makes any sense... Best for me to not to waste too much time on it, I think...
>
> I didn't get in to the whole Lord of the Rings thing. I think it was because our last year Primary Teacher decided to read it to us for 20 minutes every day after lunch so the kids could have a snooze... It was snooze-worthy... I didn't get engrossed in it in that environment. It never came alive for me.
>Type in 'Peter Theil and the end of the world' and all sorts of articles pop up. (I just made that phrase up as a starting search.)
It's Doomsday. For the super rich.
He supported Trump btw.
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:32:43
> On the general them of the decline of the west (which I should read in a good translation), antisemitism always seemed such an effort to me. Racism I understood perfectly well. Some people are differently coloured, and if we must hate someone, why not them. But antisemitism with its huge scope from Rothschields To Freud to Marx to Social Democracy and you name it seemed metaphysical (I know nothing about philosophy) and not even believed by those who believed it. As Hitler said once 'I know race does not really exist. Any farmer can tell you that. But it is really useful' or words to that effect. One Nazi film said that if jews were green it would make it easier to pick them out.
I've tried puzzling this out. It's weird, and I don't get it. Maybe it's simply been passed down for so long it's become mythic.
What is this about a Zionist influence on the militarization at our southern border? Seriously?
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 19:41:03
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
Thanks guys, I didn't know about any of this. It helps make sense of quite a lot... I mean, it's also a kind of con-munications by people who have quite a lot invested in what is con-municated about them, but it is... Affirming, in some way, of how here is this weird blend of being so very far behind / isolated in so many respects, but there also being elements of cutting edge technology...
Apparently we were the first country to have EFTPOS rolled out and people aren't charged bank fees for EFTPOS transactions, typically. The technology means every single purchase (stick of gum, bottle of milk, cup of coffee) appears on your bank statement. Not itemised (but supermarket cards that you need to use for significant price discounts) will have that information).
We fairly much are cashless.
And then the hole in the walls close up. Well, first the bank closes up but leaves the hole in the wall (the ATM). But then the hole in the wall goes away.
And then your login doesn't work...
We're not quite there at that last bit, yet.
Here is a place from which to co-ordinate the end of the world... I suspect we will get bombed, yet. And it will likely be because we're holing up one of these psychopaths. Yeah. They'll have to bomb Wanaka to do it.
It's a country that spawned Rawls...
He's right that there isn't freedom in this country.
I had a friend who wrote a Masters thesis on how there isn't democracy when the people are not educated.
My understanding is that the idea is something along the lines of a society where people vote on the politicians on the basis of their policies with respect ot how the policies serve their (legitimate) ends.
(The ends of the sadist to be sadistic is not a legitimate end).
He wants to say that we aren't free because we are burdened with student debt and because so many of us are on welfare.
I want to say that we aren't free because we are uneducated and because so many of us are on welfare.
Our people aren't learning the things they need to make their way in life. To make a way in life. To contribute meaningfully to life. Welfare... The means to education in this country is what is lacking.
And this is because Universities (the world over) have adopted a corporate model where they see students as cash machines to feed the CEO / chancellor and all their cronies. They don't care whether or not students learn anything or not. They don't care whether or not courses are overcrowded and underfunded. They only care about trying to extract enough money out of them so they can save up for their very own bolt-hole which they will need when the students decide it's time to rise up against them.
He's clearly a smart man. A clever man. But it doesn't look like he is much of a good man.
On the other hand, he's succeeded in bring these issues to our attention.
I have been saying for a while that our start-up company thing is a farce. People aren't free to start-up a company, at all.
In order to start-up a company you need to appply to have a start-up company. That involves your handing over all your information to people who have the money to enact whatever it is that you have been working on.
At that point you are delayed indefinately with paper work and so on...
Meanwhile the people with the money get it done (and profit from it) and you never even get any kinds of shares in the thing at all.
That is the supposed alternative to student debt?
That's no alternative.
You could apply for a job... But most of the job adverts are not for actual jobs. It's just data collection, again.
It's a juvenile strategy.
It's a young male thing, particularly.
It's why animals chase the young males away from the herd. They are forced out and away because they create too much mischief and trouble back home.
The young males band together...
Gain in strength...
Eventually come back and try and take place as elite males there.
All kinds of animals have that social structure.
And some people choose to behave like animals. I mean, why not -- if you can get away with it??
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:01:08
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 19:41:03
It's the infrastructure, too.
It's like they said, the lawns are kept manicured, and so on.
So individual people are labouring to keep the houses / properties in order. Who are the individual people who are labouring to keep the houses / properties in order?
Are they local people, or are they imported?
I'm trying to figure how you would get local people to do that who would get on with the job and not snoop and gossip. I mean, I understand that you could set up security cameras about the place and fire the people who snoop and gossip, but I don't think we have the infrastrure to support that. I think you would fire one only to hire another for a constant stream of people who snoop and gossip...
So who keeps the properties in order?
?
How do the Hollywood celebreties do it, generally? You hire some kind of manager to manage your support staff... Train them up... I see an infinite regress problem here of how you get people who will do the job, already.
Are they other imports?
I guess one of my friends fairly much always has people staying because she prefers that. More people around. So there's never any bother having people house-sit when she wants to go away. And she gets to know the people real well in virtue of living with them fairly indefinitely. If you have that sort of personality then it's not so much of a problem.
I expect there is a particular service that you ring and they are used to dealing with / arranging such things. It could be good work for people. Light cleaning / household work. Especially if you manage to get people who have been subjugated into thiking that if they don't do that then they can clean public toilets or public toilets in hospitals or whatever.
Maybe they can donate blood to you, too.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:17:35
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
Do you think anyone would be charged with fraud if there was a round 2 of the same thing in New Zealand?
Ignorance and inability to do statistical tests is different from intentionally misleading or falsifying - yes?
She was a front, clearly. Someone... Put her up to it, I'd say.
10 years of no more being a front... I wonder what retirement plan that got her...
They got blood...
Often with research projects / experiments the real work is not disclosed. It's fairly clear (in the way that New Zealand is a caricature) that whatever the person *says* they are doing (which is why their project got the money) is not the same as what it is that is potentially getting someone rich from their project.
Often it's just about their collecting samples of whatever. It's becoming more up-front that the funding is conditional on them sending the samples to a particlar laboratory or whatever (for them to run who knows what tests on).
Obtaining biological tissue samples is a big deal. It is generally... Obtaining foetuses that were aborted. Obtaining foreskins from circumscised infants. Obtaining tumor samples (or other samples obtained during operations)... People will pay for these things... There is a market for them...
I'm curious about how that works in the US. People are paid to donate blood? That is then privately owned?
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:46:04
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:17:35
It's an ideal.
It's an ideal many people choose to adopt.
People choose to make such people their heroes and they choose to try and emulate them and their practices. People choose to commit atrocities and so on in order to try and be like them.
Maybe... Maybe that's the marketing.
Then we can see who chooses to act like that and intervene relatively early before they grow in power enough to cause more genuine harm.
Maybe it is people like these...
Maybe it is providing this ideal to New Zealanders in order to assess their genuine merit.
Maybe it is just a test of character.
Maybe it can be used for good. To get some people out.
I guess if psychopathy is marketed as the norm then you see who has enough... Whatever... To go against the norm.
Seeing people behave apprporiately when structures are in place so as to make it easy. Seeing people behave apprpriately when they are well slept and well fed. Doesn't really give you the measure of the person.
I guess we choose to believe...
What's teh alternative?
What if you thought that doing whatever some psychopath says is the thing to do because they are the ones with real power and they are the ones who are most rewarded in life... What if you thought that and so you did awful things... What if then... It turned out... That actually you were wrong. That basically... You just behaved awfully. Because you could. What then does that make you? And you can squirm and so on that you dind't think you had any choice or whatever...
And studies show that most people are like that. Sigh. That doesn't make it excusable. Certainly not aspirational.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2018, at 19:05:57
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:46:04
so just when i was really digging my gym / the pool...
one of the staff (who looked more like a cleaner than a personal trainer) told me to put clips on the bar becuase of 'health and safety'.
(these are .5kg clips that, when on, need to be reset after every dynamic lift because they shift about. nobody trains Olympic Lifting with clips on the bar because you would spend all your life resetting clips and competition clips (only used in competitions) are 2.5kg)).
i said that it wasn't, actually, and asked to speak to her manager. who wasn't there. so i left the gym so i can't get into trouble with not following orders from one of the employees.
i know it seems like a little thing, but my expeirence is that it always starts with a little thing, and then it grows from there. so it's best to curb things early on.
it starts with 'put clips on the bar'. then it becomes 'don't stand your heels on weight plates'. then it becomes 'don't do that lift at all because it isn't safe'. then it becomes 'do it this particular way -- no, stand like this!' then it becomes 'do three of these and then do four of those'...
it's just people being a bully.
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i think the time slot is the primary issue. don't go to the gym around 5pm (after work time). that's when you get the awful people who are there to yak yak yak yak yak primarily and the overweight wealthy-ish people who look the same (or worse) year after year even though their primary goal (according to them) is to lose weight and get in shape...
and the people who know what they are doing can't bear it (and have also been in the gym since around 6a most likely). so... they tell a cleaner that she can mind the gym, or whatever.
i guess i'll need to make more of an effort to train when the kids are there. kids are great.
parents are typically awful.
i mean... you have a bunch of people who prefer to stand around yapping about what other people (their kids) are doing instead of... i don't know... getting in there and doing some work themselves. telling their kids they need to work harder or kick more or whatever...
mind their business?
hmph.
awful people.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2018, at 19:15:14
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2018, at 19:05:57
it really upset me, actually.
because there was an empty section of the gym so i moved into it so i could do my thing.
so then this guy (who is starting to creep me out because he looks at me an awful lot and seems to be looking for an excuse to yak yak yak yak yak yak) and the employee moved into that space and started to yak yak yak yak yak yak yak while looking in my direction.
which sort of creeps me out and puts me off my focus when i'm trying to do pelvic abdominal rolling / activation work...
so i get up and move into a different section of they gym with the primary intention of moving myself away from them.
so they follow me into that space and again yak yak yak yak yak yak. standing around and fairly obviously looking at me.
then she walks over with clips to 'be helpful'
(yeah right)
and when i'm like 'no, thanks' she decides to order me to do it in the name of health and safety.
it is just being a bully. there's nothing more to it than that.
i said i'd speak with her manager today. i don't know what to do. she shouldn't be supervising the gym unsupervised if she can't tell the difference between a genine safety issue and her being a bully. there are pool lifeguards and they need to know the difference between genuine safety issue and people doing legitimate work (e.g, swimming certain distances with breath hold). there are clear rules about those. there are clear rules about the gym, too. and clips on the bar is not one of them
(I don't agree with but will comply with whatever gym staff tell me about footwear in whatever areas because i do need / want to stretch / foam roll my feet).
I think I will say something.
Becuase of the whole it getting worse thing. I don't want to have to leave the gym when she's there and I don't go there to be bossed around.
I'm a grown woman ffs. Where does she get off?
Posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2018, at 19:23:10
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 31, 2018, at 19:05:57
not all of them, of course. the kids like to be watched. i remember i used to love it when my father would come and watch me play field hockey. i'd be happy to see him obviously looking proud of me when i did something good. i do get that some people really are there for their kids, and that's great to see.
but there are other parents who are more like owners or slavers of their kids.
yeah.
i don't mind interacting with people in the gym. i do mind it when i can see that people are more interested in interacting with me than in letting me work, though. when people demonstrate that their preference to interact with me is worth more to them than their willingness to let me get on with my ends. those are the people i want nothing to do with. the people who are prepared to bully me to get what they want. i can tell fairly readily who those people are.
there's heaps of shy kids at the gym and they are trying to get good at stuff.. to suppliment their swimming. they are great. because they know how to work. it is nice working with people who are also working. people stop work to yak yak yak yak yak...
in the pool it's great because you can start another length to get away from them. so the awful hangs about in the gym where people can be cornered..
Posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 10:44:13
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:46:04
Oh well, life is running this experiment with us. When it fails it will just keep running with something else.
(I have my doubts about mammals. Should have climaxed with mollusca.)
Posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 10:47:32
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar » alexandra_k, posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 10:44:13
What's that crap about climax?
I should know better.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 1, 2018, at 14:40:14
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar » alexandra_k, posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 10:44:13
Molluscks (sp?) are pretty interesting.
Posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 15:58:30
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on November 1, 2018, at 14:40:14
Cuttlefish have beautiful eyes.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 2, 2018, at 20:34:44
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on November 1, 2018, at 15:58:30
oh, my.
i'd only ever seen them in bird cages all white and chalky.
now i'm wondering how the two are related...
birds impress me. i know many people are impressed by octopusses but birds impress me. i think they know rather a lot more than they let on. and i think my ears can't hear the half of what they have to say (in that i can't hear some german sounds kind of a way).
a very pretty voiced bird has made a nest (i think) in the gutter right outside my bedroom window. she (i'm guessing) chatters away. i think maybe she can hear me and when i talk to her about how pretty she sounds she gets louder sometimes... perhaps...
i worry about the gutter a little, but more worry she might get washed away in a rainstorm...
some guy came here earlier to check a bunch of things... mostly it was to check the temperature of my hot water after the power company cut power to my hot water cylander it a predetermined number of hours before (i bet). i bet. if you are going to experiment with such things you probably do it to the state houses where people who live in them are required to let in 'health and safety' inspectors -- right?
i saw his job description was to check the gutters.
i specifically asked him if he needed a hand.
he took the temperature of my water and made a nod to window latches and ran away.
f*ck*ng farce of a country.
cheep.
Posted by sigismund on November 3, 2018, at 13:10:36
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on November 2, 2018, at 20:34:44
Anything humans say about animals is full of conflict of interest.
I went mad 30 years ago and planted thousands of trees. When you do this you live to regret it. (It's like cooking,,,,,you never enjoy the food you cook as much as others do.) But new birds are appearing. You of course know that colours are gifted to us by our DNA coincidental with wavelengths. Some of these birds are hallucinatory delights. It is only that we are half dead that we can't see. A little boy was staying, maybe 5? He went outside in the morning and rolled around on the grass, looking at the blue sky and all the greens and said 'I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT!'
That's a good age. With adults I kinda fear I'll end up in an argument about Jordan Peterson, which no amount of alcohol will render painless. Kids just before they can talk. Animals too.
They are related because the white cuttlefish you see is the shell converted into (something like?) a backbone. I didn't eat that cuttlefish. I have learned how to cook squid.
Posted by sigismund on November 3, 2018, at 13:21:50
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on November 3, 2018, at 13:10:36
Alex, you should know about this.
As well as the threat of ending up on Jordan Peterson, the other one is ending up on cultural Marxism.
What do they mean? Adorno, Frankfurt School, Gramsci? Or are they taking about identity politics. I have guessed it is the last. (Possible?) Seperate toilets for whomever it is?
There are a lot of older men who wish to feel young again. That's fine, but ummm, not around me please. But I'm not talking about sex.
Similar to the bloke in Being There, I like to sleep.
Posted by sigismund on November 4, 2018, at 4:44:40
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on November 3, 2018, at 13:21:50
One cannot sufficiently despise all of this. Nietzsche
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