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Posted by Sigismund on April 12, 2009, at 20:36:41
This is the legacy.....
Posted by Sigismund on April 12, 2009, at 20:52:05
In reply to Pakistan and the legacy, posted by Sigismund on April 12, 2009, at 20:36:41
With his approach to Iran and his address to the Turkish parliament, Obama may be able to drive a wedge between moderate and extreme Islamist opinion, given enough time to be seen to be credible.
Posted by fayeroe on April 13, 2009, at 21:29:26
In reply to Re: Pakistan and the legacy, posted by Sigismund on April 12, 2009, at 20:52:05
> With his approach to Iran and his address to the Turkish parliament, Obama may be able to drive a wedge between moderate and extreme Islamist opinion, given enough time to be seen to be credible.
Thanks for posting that link. An eye opener for sure.
I hope that a division will come about. I am very pleased with Obama's actions so far. Very pleased.
Posted by Sigismund on April 15, 2009, at 16:12:32
In reply to Re: Pakistan and the legacy » Sigismund, posted by fayeroe on April 13, 2009, at 21:29:26
> "[W]hat lengths men will go in order to carry out, to their extreme limit, the rites of a collective self-worship which fills them with a sense of righteousness and complacent satisfaction in the midst of the most shocking injustices and crimes."
-Love and Living, by Thomas Merton(Never were truer words spoken than that.)
Posted by fayeroe on April 15, 2009, at 16:59:00
In reply to Re: Iraq and the legacy, posted by Sigismund on April 15, 2009, at 16:12:32
NO one ever talks about the losses the Iraqis have suffered. No one......
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on April 17, 2009, at 2:23:58
In reply to Re: Iraq and the legacy, posted by Sigismund on April 15, 2009, at 16:12:32
> > "[W]hat lengths men will go in order to carry out, to their extreme limit, the rites of a collective self-worship which fills them with a sense of righteousness and complacent satisfaction in the midst of the most shocking injustices and crimes."
> -Love and Living, by Thomas Merton
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> (Never were truer words spoken than that.)>
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> http://www.truthout.org/041509AI just watched a rerun of Jon Stewart, and he had this guy on there who was able to infiltrate the Republican party and got some quite no-so-nice info on Cheney. Now, I ask that you visit "Americans For A New Century",( http://www.newamericancentury.org ) which was the manifesto of the Bush admin. They where planning to invade Iraq as far back as 1997.
Here is a sample of their "Mission":"The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.
Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:
we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;
we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;
we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;
we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.
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Now..look who it was signed by:Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz
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Well...there it is..Jay
Posted by Sigismund on April 17, 2009, at 19:25:21
In reply to Re: Iraq and the legacy » Sigismund, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on April 17, 2009, at 2:23:58
They've done very well, now that the Chinese can buy up cheap.
Let's hope the rise of China is handled a little better than the rise of Germany.
Posted by Sigismund on April 17, 2009, at 19:28:14
In reply to Re: Iraq and the legacy » Sigismund, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on April 17, 2009, at 2:23:58
Did I see Dan Quayle's name as it passed me by?
They've been quiet lately.
Nothing there after 2006, though I didn't linger.
Ah, the surge, they'll cling to that, the last of their dignity.
This is the end of the thread.
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