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Posted by zeugma on February 2, 2006, at 19:18:08
and so, despite my often-stated admiration for Patrick Fitzgerald and his determined investigation into circumstances relevant to national security and the leak-prone CIA, I can only [potentially uncivil, but positive- can a positive word be uncivil here- after all a strong positive statement, and I assure you my feelings on this matters are STRONGLY positive, or 'pluspositive,' to adopt a term that I think would suit the lingo of this board- implies an equally strong negative towards its logical complement- or should I say 'minusnegative'?- by the way that is a serious question)- despite my admiration for Fitzgerald and his probe, I have 'plusnegative' (there, I've used a word that could confuse everyone including myself, and so suits the purposes of civility beautifully) feelings towards archivists. President Richard M. Nixon was a zealous archivist of his own wiretapping activities, and that led to his resignation. It appears that Mr. Bush, to adopt words Mr. Bush himself used about New Orleans just days after Hurricane Katrina hit, "dodged a bullet" when an archiving problem deleted material relevant to Fitzgerald's investigation:
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Fitzgerald Hints White House Records Lost By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
Wed Feb 1, 9:28 PM ET
WASHINGTON - Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is raising the possibility that records sought in the CIA leak investigation could be missing because of an e-mail archiving problem at the White House.
The prosecutor in the criminal case against Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff said in a Jan. 23 letter that not all e-mail was archived in 2003, the year the Bush administration exposed the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame.Lawyers for defendant I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby this week accused prosecutors of withholding evidence the Libby camp says it needs to mount a defense.
"We are aware of no evidence pertinent to the charges against defendant Libby which has been destroyed," Fitzgerald wrote in a letter to the defense team.
But the prosecutor added: "In an abundance of caution, we advise you that we have learned that not all e-mail of the Office of Vice President and the Executive Office of the President for certain time periods in 2003 was preserved through the normal archiving process on the White House computer system." His letter was an exhibit attached to Libby's demand for more information from the prosecution.
Lea Anne McBride, a spokeswoman for Cheney, said the vice president's office is cooperating fully with the investigation, and referred questions to Fitzgerald's office.
Libby is charged with five counts of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI regarding how he learned of Plame's identity and what he did with the information.
The Presidential Records Act, passed by Congress in 1978, made it clear that records generated in the conduct of official duties did not belong to the president or vice president, but were the property of the government.
The National Archives takes custody of the records when the president leaves office.
"Bottom line: Accidents happen and there could be a benign explanation, but this is highly irregular and invites suspicion," said Steve Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists government secrecy project.
"A particular subset of records sought in a controversial prosecution have gone missing," Aftergood said. "I think what is needed is for the national archivist to ascertain what went wrong and how to ensure it won't happen again.">>
Aftergood- hmmm, interesting name...
-z
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 4, 2006, at 18:39:02
In reply to I have uncivil feelings about archivists, posted by zeugma on February 2, 2006, at 19:18:08
You make me laugh.. Kind of the same way Lenny Bruce makes me laugh.
Life is way too annoying once you take that blanket off your head..
Posted by zeugma on February 12, 2006, at 15:04:59
In reply to Re: I have uncivil feelings about archivists » zeugma, posted by Gabbix2 on February 4, 2006, at 18:39:02
Life is way too annoying once you take that blanket off your head....>>
so true. That is why my head is retreating ostrich-like under my blanket now.
Btw, good job quoting that Rothschild study on social. you make me laugh too.
-z
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 13, 2006, at 17:43:03
In reply to Re: I have uncivil feelings about archivists » Gabbix2, posted by zeugma on February 12, 2006, at 15:04:59
> Btw, good job quoting that Rothschild study on social. you make me laugh too.
>I'm flattered!
I find psychiatric labelling so arbitrary, and relevent only to the current culture that I'm always surprised that Dr's and Nurses still adhere to it.
I *really* have to get over that. :(
I know they can be very helpful as guidelines but I find any more than that baffling.
However..I'm always baffled and slightly bewildered.
Posted by gardenergirl on February 13, 2006, at 20:58:39
In reply to Re: I have uncivil feelings about archivists » zeugma, posted by Gabbix2 on February 13, 2006, at 17:43:03
But are you bewitched or beguiled? ;)
gg
Posted by Gabbix2 on February 14, 2006, at 0:15:32
In reply to Re: I have uncivil feelings about archivists » Gabbix2, posted by gardenergirl on February 13, 2006, at 20:58:39
bewitching and beguiling :D
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