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Posted by crazy teresa on July 6, 2005, at 18:27:10
Dear Editors,
In your recent About Town article Nancy mentioned Logo, the new
cable network channel for gays and lesbians. While avoiding
housework one afternoon last week I stumbled across this channel.
I didn't pay that much attention to it besides noticing it was a
channel I wasn't familiar with, so I kept on surfing. I must have
had a hard time finding a show worth watching because a short while
later I landed on Logo again. Just as I started to leave it, I
heard something about it being the new channel for gays and
lesbians. I punched the information button to see what Directv had
to say about it; sure enough, the commercial was confirmed.As you'd watch any train wreck, I left this channel on out of
curiosity. Nancy, if you're still looking "forward to seeing
programs that promote an understanding of the gay and lesbian
community, rather than mocking the stereotypes," you might need to
look elsewhere. How will advertising sex help to eliminate the
stereotype that being homosexual is only about the sex? It only
took approximately three minutes of viewing the soft pornography
they used as commercials to determine this was a channel that
needed to be blocked from our home. There was no advertising of
comedy, movies, game shows, DIY or news--just sex.Congratulations to those pushing the liberal agenda, you have
scored a double victory: First, a gay channel and second, the
elimination of those pesky rental fees!
Posted by AuntieMel on July 7, 2005, at 9:05:51
In reply to I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 6, 2005, at 18:27:10
I'm sorry, but I have to take issue with a couple of things.
First - I don't know what a "liberal agenda" is - other than a catch phrase. I consider myself quite liberal on some (mostly social) things and quite conservative on other (mostly fiscal) things. But the only agenda I have is that I want to live in a world with more tolerance and understanding, to help those less fortunate and to live my life in relative peace and quiet.
Second - you only watched for three minutes? That doesn't seem like enough time to draw a conclusion. I've just looked at LOGO's web site and I (though straight) can see a lot of stuff I would like to watch.
I don't have dish. I hope they put it on regular cable.
Posted by mike13 on July 7, 2005, at 15:28:52
In reply to I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 6, 2005, at 18:27:10
bigot
Posted by AuntieMel on July 7, 2005, at 17:52:13
In reply to Just say you hate gays, posted by mike13 on July 7, 2005, at 15:28:52
Posted by crazy teresa on July 7, 2005, at 22:03:04
In reply to Just say you hate gays, posted by mike13 on July 7, 2005, at 15:28:52
Not at all. Read it again. I asked how advertising sex is going to change the stereotypes. I think the stereotypes should be challenged. I just don't see how the advertising would do this; it was reinforcing it. I'm not understanding why the opportunity is being wasted.
You should apologize.
Posted by crazy teresa on July 7, 2005, at 22:06:34
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by AuntieMel on July 7, 2005, at 9:05:51
> Second - you only watched for three minutes? That doesn't seem like enough time to draw a conclusion.How long would you need to watch the Playboy channel to decide if it was ok for your kids to watch if it just showed up one day?
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 8, 2005, at 1:49:10
In reply to Just say you hate gays, posted by mike13 on July 7, 2005, at 15:28:52
> bigot
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by AuntieMel on July 8, 2005, at 14:02:38
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 7, 2005, at 22:06:34
Ok, maybe it wouldn't take terribly long to decide if the kiddos should be watching it.
But I still don't understand how that was enough to justify writing a letter to the editor.
Posted by crazy teresa on July 8, 2005, at 21:13:40
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today » crazy teresa, posted by AuntieMel on July 8, 2005, at 14:02:38
> Ok, maybe it wouldn't take terribly long to decide if the kiddos should be watching it.
>
> But I still don't understand how that was enough to justify writing a letter to the editor.That would help, wouldn't it? I should have included her article, but I tossed the paper. The author of the article (Nancy) was going on and on about how this was going to finally be the one thing that would magically change the stereotypes. More or less saying you were anti-gay if you didn't love watching Logo.
There has been a big huff in town because the president of Logo is from this area. (Most small towns are pretty small-minded in my experience.) A couple of months ago there was this big article about him being promoted at MTV, and he was wonderful (hometown boy make it VERY big). Then all of the sudden Logo comes out, the community finds out what the hometown boy is doing for MTV and people are freaking out. I felt like she had gone overboard in singing its praises to try and counter some of the negativity.
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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 9, 2005, at 11:12:41
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 8, 2005, at 21:13:40
> Most small towns are pretty small-minded in my experience.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by AuntieMel on July 9, 2005, at 11:16:39
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 8, 2005, at 21:13:40
Well, then, the 'truth' is again somewhere in the middle.
The channel doesn't seem to me to be a cure-all for bigotry, but it doesn't seem to be anything to do with a 'liberal agenda' either.
It's a tv channel. Nothing more. Nothing less. Like most, some will like it, some will hate it. I hadn't heard of it until now, but I've looked at the web site and saw a lot of movies that I really like. When (if) it becomes available in my area I'll probably watch some of it.
Many thanks for pointing it out.
Posted by crazy teresa on July 10, 2005, at 21:05:08
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by AuntieMel on July 9, 2005, at 11:16:39
> Well, then, the 'truth' is again somewhere in the middle.
What are you talking about?
> The channel doesn't seem to me to be a cure-all for bigotry, but it doesn't seem to be anything to do with a 'liberal agenda' either.
>Because it doesn't exist?
> It's a tv channel. Nothing more. Nothing less. Like most, some will like it, some will hate it. I hadn't heard of it until now, but I've looked at the web site and saw a lot of movies that I really like. When (if) it becomes available in my area I'll probably watch some of it.
>
> Many thanks for pointing it out.Enjoy!
Posted by alexandra_k on July 11, 2005, at 3:55:12
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by AuntieMel on July 9, 2005, at 11:16:39
:-)
Posted by gromit on July 11, 2005, at 16:41:13
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today » AuntieMel, posted by crazy teresa on July 10, 2005, at 21:05:08
> > Well, then, the 'truth' is again somewhere in the middle.
>
> What are you talking about?IMHO most of us (80+)%, probably over 90% are somewhere in the middle, we defy attempts at classification. In a group of extreme liberals I would probably be considered a conservative and visa versa. I don't even bother to speak up when my wife's family gets going about those "damn liberals". Yet I have what would be considered a very conservative viewpoint on many issues. I think most people are this way.
> > The channel doesn't seem to me to be a cure-all for bigotry, but it doesn't seem to be anything to do with a 'liberal agenda' either.
> >
>
> Because it doesn't exist?Extremists always have an agenda.
> > It's a tv channel. Nothing more. Nothing less. Like most, some will like it, some will hate it. I hadn't heard of it until now, but I've looked at the web site and saw a lot of movies that I really like. When (if) it becomes available in my area I'll probably watch some of it.
> >
> > Many thanks for pointing it out.
>
> Enjoy!I'm a guy, the thought of sex with another man is not at all appealing to me, I certainly wouldn't want to marry another male. I also don't like onions, seafood, wrestling, shopping or the WNBA. Obviously others enjoy these things, but maybe we should ban them all. I know I think less of people who like onions on their burgers and they must be stopped! To quote the Bible "do unto others what you would have them do unto you". I think that's the verse, pretty close anyway.
Rick
Posted by AuntieMel on July 12, 2005, at 8:55:49
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today » AuntieMel, posted by crazy teresa on July 10, 2005, at 21:05:08
I looked at the LOGO web site. My guess is that the channel is somewhere between "advertising sex" and "magically" changing stereotypes.
Posted by AuntieMel on July 12, 2005, at 8:59:21
In reply to Re: I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by gromit on July 11, 2005, at 16:41:13
Maybe we should have a "moderate uprising."
Smack that pendulum back into the middle and keep it there.
Where 'ya been?
Posted by gromit on July 12, 2005, at 12:34:08
In reply to Re: agenda » gromit, posted by AuntieMel on July 12, 2005, at 8:59:21
Hah, I forgot to pay the phone bill and had to wait for them to reconnect it.
Posted by Maximus on July 13, 2005, at 14:36:39
In reply to I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 6, 2005, at 18:27:10
So much for a micro minority. Huh? I want an "official" heterosexual channel. I want a logo too :-D
Posted by crazy teresa on July 15, 2005, at 1:09:14
In reply to Re: I want my heterosexual channels! ;-), posted by Maximus on July 13, 2005, at 14:36:39
Posted by Maximus on July 15, 2005, at 12:38:57
In reply to LOL! What would your logo be???? (nm) » Maximus, posted by crazy teresa on July 15, 2005, at 1:09:14
Posted by crazy teresa on July 23, 2005, at 18:07:58
In reply to I wrote a letter to the editor today, posted by crazy teresa on July 6, 2005, at 18:27:10
My letter did get printed in the local paper this week. One of my friends (who is gay) called to thank me for writing it.
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