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Posted by overtheedge on December 26, 2005, at 20:02:55
Not sure if this would be the place to post this but here goes....
if one takes 75 mcg of levxoyl a day, 1 pill, but actually takes 4/5 a day would that make them hyerthyroid?and make them lose weight? and what would be the consquences of such a thing?
thanks
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 27, 2005, at 13:25:53
In reply to thyroid, posted by overtheedge on December 26, 2005, at 20:02:55
> Not sure if this would be the place to post this but here goes....
> if one takes 75 mcg of levxoyl a day, 1 pill, but actually takes 4/5 a day would that make them hyerthyroid?and make them lose weight? and what would be the consquences of such a thing?
> thanksI'm not sure I understand how you might take 4/5 a day. Did you mean 4 or 5 of those a day?
That would lead to a very significant adverse reaction. You'd lose weight, but you'd be very sick. Very very sick.
If I understand your question correctly, and you or someone you know have actually done so, I suggest you immediately seek medical care. If you have a fever, are disoriented, or have chest pain, call an ambulance. Get to an emergency room. And tell the truth about why you feel that way. It'll save a lot of time and invasive testing.
Thyroid hormone is not a safe way to lose weight.
Lar
Posted by overtheedge on December 27, 2005, at 16:24:04
In reply to Re: thyroid » overtheedge, posted by Larry Hoover on December 27, 2005, at 13:25:53
what do you mean by this?That would lead to a very significant adverse reaction? so far this person has had no reaction at all.... so which would make one believe it is safe for at least a litle while? And yes you are correct in your assumtion... thanks for the reply.
Posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2005, at 21:39:28
In reply to Re: thyroid, posted by overtheedge on December 27, 2005, at 16:24:04
Because you will mess up your thyroid big time. I was find no anxiety deprssion until my thyroid went hypo. And that is what will happen if you take thyroid and you don't need it. You will seriously have a lot of problems. Take it from me you don't want that. I'd be fat in a minute if I could give myself back a normal thryroid gland. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 27, 2005, at 23:11:57
In reply to Re: thyroid, posted by overtheedge on December 27, 2005, at 16:24:04
> what do you mean by this?That would lead to a very significant adverse reaction? so far this person has had no reaction at all.... so which would make one believe it is safe for at least a litle while? And yes you are correct in your assumtion... thanks for the reply.
It will lead to a serious adverse reaction. There are too many variables to say how long that will be, before it happens. Thyroid hormone is highly protein-bound, which is to say that special carrier proteins in the bloodstream soak it up. Something like a sponge. It's when those sponges get saturated that the real trouble begins. By real trouble, I mean the possibility of a thyroid storm, a true life-threatening reaction.
Before those sponge-like proteins are saturated, though, the body is ramping up. Heart-rate and basal temperature become elevated, and yes, metabolism increases. Tendencies toward anxious reactions increase. Shortness of breath, palpitations, even heart arrhythmia, under stress. Headache, nausea, sweating. The longer the overdosing continues, the stronger the symptoms become.
The thing is, those sponge-like proteins that get saturated stay that way for an extended period. That is their function, to provide a stable reserve of thyroid hormone, to level out the effect of it (a protection against the body's own ability to disturb the concentration). So, if this person who is abusing the hormone pushes the blood levels towards that point of saturation, whatever unpleasant things start happening stay that way for many days straight, because those little protein sponges have soaked up a lot of thyroid hormone, and keep it available. It's not a pleasant experience.
I was once prescribed 10 mcg/day levothyroxine. The pharmacist thought the prescribing doctor really meant 100 mcg/day, and supplied the higher dose without checking back with the doctor. And, the only time in my life I didn't double check a prescription, it mattered. I didn't check that I'd been supplied with 10 mcg tablets, and blindly started taking the 100 mcg ones. Thirteen days later, I was in the emergency room, having suffered a collapse. Good thing I wasn't driving. Just got out of my car, walked in a store, and was down. I was vomiting non-stop for a week. Nausea, twitching, headache, couldn't sleep, cramps, sweating, hypertension. Worse than any flu I've ever had, ten times over.
And that was on a dose of 100 mcg/day, much smaller than the 300 to 375 mcg daily you're describing.
To suggest it is safe for a little while is foolhardy. It is not safe, period. Not having symptoms is just not having symptoms *yet*. Not only that, when you finally do stop, because you feel so horrible, your body will by then have shut down your natural thyroid hormone production. You will go into hypothyroid before you stabilize again.
If you stop now, maybe you'll get away with it. But don't ever think it was safe. It was luck. Blind luck.
Lar
Posted by overtheedge on December 28, 2005, at 9:34:45
In reply to Re: thyroid » overtheedge, posted by Phillipa on December 27, 2005, at 21:39:28
thanks lar, that helped alot.....
philppa, i do take meds for hypothyroid. i am suppose to take 75mcg a day.....
Posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2005, at 17:30:57
In reply to Re: thyroid, posted by overtheedge on December 28, 2005, at 9:34:45
What type of symptoms did you have before you started on thryroid med? Mine were the opposite of what they are supposed to be. High anxiety, wt loss, severe kneew jerk relex the neurologist thought I waw hyperthyroid. And at one time my TSH was 22 . God the anxiety was awful. Fondly, Phillipa ps that's when my depression/anxiety got so bad
Posted by overtheedge on December 28, 2005, at 17:45:12
In reply to Re: thyroid » overtheedge, posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2005, at 17:30:57
we have a family history mother, sister, i had about 10 yrs ago ana to my thyroid so we knew it was a matter of time... ok so the usually weight gain, althought hardly much, muscle pain, tired most of the time. happened after my 5th child was born and i get my levels checked every 6 mths or so..... so we know it is hypo.
Posted by Phillipa on December 28, 2005, at 18:34:48
In reply to Re: thyroid*** Phillipa, posted by overtheedge on December 28, 2005, at 17:45:12
Hashimotos like mine? ANA elevated? Fondly, Phillipa
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