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Posted by fires on May 16, 2005, at 16:08:41
I'm sure they all do, but are certain ones better known for doing so? I've been using Pepto Bismol to ward off some "pschiatric symptoms" with some success.
Thanks
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2005, at 14:01:33
In reply to GI bugs that effect brain?, posted by fires on May 16, 2005, at 16:08:41
> I'm sure they all do, but are certain ones better known for doing so? I've been using Pepto Bismol to ward off some "pschiatric symptoms" with some success.
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> ThanksBismuth subsalicylate suppresses Helicobacter pylori.
Gastritis, in general, is associated with anxiety and neuroticism. Suppressing gastritis normalizes these parameters. In other words, it has been shown that personality variables once thought to contribute to gastritis (one interpretation of the correlation) were actually found to result from the gastritis.
My thoughts are, whatever works, works. Be aware, however, that excess bismuth intake can turn your tongue black.
Lar
Posted by fires on May 24, 2005, at 14:09:44
In reply to Re: GI bugs that effect brain? » fires, posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2005, at 14:01:33
I've read of toxicity problems with long term use of bismuth ______. I don't use it for over 2 days in a row.
I haven't had to use it for a couple of weeks. I see my pdoc today -- can't wait for her response to my news.
Thursday: I go in for my annual upper GI endoscopy. Was neg. for H. Pylori last time, but had Barrett's.
Brother passed away from esoph. cancer about one year ago.
Thanks
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2005, at 15:17:51
In reply to Re: GI bugs that effect brain? » Larry Hoover, posted by fires on May 24, 2005, at 14:09:44
> Thursday: I go in for my annual upper GI endoscopy. Was neg. for H. Pylori last time, but had Barrett's.
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> Brother passed away from esoph. cancer about one year ago.
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> ThanksIf you have Barrett's, you've had GERD for a long time.
Check out this post:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050510/msgs/501711.htmlAbout a third of the way down.....
Lar
Posted by barbaracat on August 5, 2005, at 17:56:11
In reply to GI bugs that effect brain?, posted by fires on May 16, 2005, at 16:08:41
I had a high Klebsiella count 4+ that was treated with a broad spectrum antibiotic and then probiotics. In my readings, I found that it can cause depression and anxiety. I feel much better since the treatment. It's hard to have a warm glowing visceral feeling of contentment when your gut is in spasm.
My personal theory is that anything that causes a tightness, cramping to the gut, especially the lower sternum area, is closely associated with vagus nerve discomfort. Constriction signalling from the Vagus is one of the reasons we feel ill at ease and anxious. We've all heard of vagus nerve stimulation for treating depression. There are more receptors for serotonin in the gut than in the brain. Something to think about.
Posted by fires on August 5, 2005, at 18:25:01
In reply to Re: GI bugs that effect brain? » fires, posted by barbaracat on August 5, 2005, at 17:56:11
>> There are more receptors for serotonin in the gut than in the brain. Something to think about.
And gut neuropeptides? Number in 100s or 1000s?
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