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Posted by partlycloudy on March 14, 2005, at 10:48:43
I was curious whether any of the changes she suggested have helped your energy level and alertness.
pc
Posted by Dinah on March 14, 2005, at 19:01:45
In reply to Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again?, posted by partlycloudy on March 14, 2005, at 10:48:43
It didn't help any. In fact it was worse than before. So while I kept some of her suggestions, I tossed the rest and am keeping my productivity up with Biggie Cokes.
I may lose a foot down the line, but gosh darn it, I'm doing a teensy bit better at work, and that's what's important.
Posted by partlycloudy on March 15, 2005, at 6:58:59
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » partlycloudy, posted by Dinah on March 14, 2005, at 19:01:45
Wow. How utterly disappointing - and I bet it wasn't an inexpensive thing to do.
I was considering getting some nutritional counselling to help with my sobriety (there are claims of blood sugar levels and alcohol addiction connections) and now I wonder if I should toss the idea. It sounds like it would make sense, but I already eat a healthy diet with lots of veggies and fresh fruit. I've been having terrible sweet and starch cravings lately; bad alcohol cravings (which I've never had before!) and I'm getting a bit desperate.
How about nutritional supplements to help in productivity? I'm thinking about adding things like calcium, zinc, magnesium, and b vitamins after having read some books.
I hope it's not a lot of hooey - you'd think changing what we take it would make a huge difference in how we feel!
pc
Posted by Tabitha on March 15, 2005, at 14:48:24
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » Dinah, posted by partlycloudy on March 15, 2005, at 6:58:59
Hi pc, I think there's definitely a connection between blood sugar and alcohol abuse. I quit alcohol with very few cravings, but my sugar consumption really went up. Now I'm making an effort to avoid sugar, and I'm having alcohol cravings again.
Posted by partlycloudy on March 15, 2005, at 15:17:46
In reply to Re: sugar and alcohol » partlycloudy, posted by Tabitha on March 15, 2005, at 14:48:24
I posted on the substance board about my recent travails. Today I decided to add some nutritional supplements to try to help in my recovery: evening primrose oil (for GLA), L-glutamine, 5-HTP, and tyrosine. All this to help me as I attempt to cut out white sugar from my diet. I don't think I'm ready to cut out my carbs without crashing into a depression.
And why oh why don't any doctors tell us about this connection?? It makes such sense!
Posted by TamaraJ on March 15, 2005, at 17:20:26
In reply to Re: sugar and alcohol » Tabitha, posted by partlycloudy on March 15, 2005, at 15:17:46
PC,
You might want to also add some chromium. It is supposed to be very good for stabilizing blood sugar and reducing cravings. Also (I am sure you already know this, but I thought I would add it anyway) be careful with the 5HTP dosing when combining it with an AD (potential for serotonin syndrome) and, based on my own experience with L-Glutamine, I would start quite low and take your time increasing the dose - I ended up extremely agitated when I tried it (but I started at 500mg 2 or 3 times a day).
Good luck partlycloudy. I am sure the supplements will be helpful.
Tamara
> I posted on the substance board about my recent travails. Today I decided to add some nutritional supplements to try to help in my recovery: evening primrose oil (for GLA), L-glutamine, 5-HTP, and tyrosine. All this to help me as I attempt to cut out white sugar from my diet. I don't think I'm ready to cut out my carbs without crashing into a depression.
>
> And why oh why don't any doctors tell us about this connection?? It makes such sense!
Posted by partlycloudy on March 16, 2005, at 6:44:53
In reply to Re: sugar and alcohol » partlycloudy, posted by TamaraJ on March 15, 2005, at 17:20:26
Thanks! I'm taking it nice and slow. Last night was pretty good, though - no cravings for either sweets or a drink. Heck, even if it's a placebo effect, I will take it.
pc
Posted by Racer on March 20, 2005, at 21:35:29
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » Dinah, posted by partlycloudy on March 15, 2005, at 6:58:59
I vote to give a try to the N -- my nutritional counseling has helped me a lot, despite my going in there saying "oh, what's she gonna tell me I don't already know?" The answer, so far, is "a hell of a lot!"
Seriously, every session with her -- I call it my weekly spanking, since my goals haven't changed since that day you and I shared those popovers, because I haven't been able to meet them consistently even after all this time -- has taught me something new. It may not be earthshaking information every week, but it's still good stuff. And I'm learning a lot about those cravings -- in my case, she's doing more for my ED related thoughts than my now-former SparklingBright did!
Even if it's not as good for you as it has been for me, it's probably worth a try. (And let me know how it goes if you do...)
Posted by partlycloudy on March 21, 2005, at 7:07:22
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » partlycloudy, posted by Racer on March 20, 2005, at 21:35:29
That is good advice, Racer. I think any type of support I can give myself with help me in my goal of remaining sober.
I'll let you know how I get on.
pc
Posted by Racer on March 21, 2005, at 22:01:26
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » Racer, posted by partlycloudy on March 21, 2005, at 7:07:22
> That is good advice, Racer. I think any type of support I can give myself with help me in my goal of remaining sober.
> I'll let you know how I get on.
> pcDo let me know how you get on, dear. And maybe we can work out a way that we can support one another through our transitions? Although this week I did do a bit better...
Posted by partlycloudy on March 22, 2005, at 7:17:07
In reply to Re: Dinah - did you see the nutritionist again? » partlycloudy, posted by Racer on March 21, 2005, at 22:01:26
for both of us. I just got another book (of course) called "Eating Right To Live Sober" - I haven't even cracked the cover yet but I can tell it will be a helpful resource.
You're doing better this week? That's great! What has made it different, do you think?
pc
Posted by Racer on March 25, 2005, at 18:09:14
In reply to I think that working together would be good. » Racer, posted by partlycloudy on March 22, 2005, at 7:17:07
What helped was having a much stricter meal plan from the nutritionist. Somehow, it made it easier to get through it.
This week, though, I had a trigger that kinda set me back.
Ah, hell -- I had more triggers than the Winchester Rifle factory! I guess it's no wonder things weren't so good this week...
Take good care of yourself, and if you can't remember how to use email, someone here can remind you... :-D
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