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Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:27
In reply to Re: Lou's response-phifteethrepsiks » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on February 18, 2010, at 21:15:02
> Lou I don't know other than just stop and see what happens? Any suggestions seriously? Tired of being sick and tired and unable to be what others expect me to be and that's how I used to be high functioning and never any fears at all. Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...I don't know other than just stop..Any suggestions..?...how I used to be...]
In my journey, I have seen a different way that has brought people out of death and into life. But there is great tribulation involved. This tribulation is a sign. It is the same sign as the sign of Jonah. And as Jonah was in the belly of a great fish, stopping the drug(s) will transport one to be in the Heart of the Earth. And those that overcome will be given a Crown of Life.
Now some may think that I mean that the Heart of the Earth is a grave. Not so, for I mean that the Heart of the Earth is possibly the most awful torment one could experiance.
If you would want to be deliverd from the Heart of the Earth, like Jonah was delivered from the belly of the great fish, then take this opportunity to post here and continue dialog. If you do not want to hear more, then reject this opportunity to know what has been revealed to me that could have one delivered from the Heart of the Earth.
Lou
Posted by topcatclr on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:27
In reply to Lou's reply-hrtverth » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on February 18, 2010, at 22:47:28
Yawn!
Numbing is why a lot of people take these meds. To soften the blow of a cold, harsh world. One that a lot of people can't handle without them, myself included!
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:27
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-hrtverth, posted by topcatclr on February 18, 2010, at 23:42:55
> Yawn!
> Numbing is why a lot of people take these meds. To soften the blow of a cold, harsh world. One that a lot of people can't handle without them, myself included!topcatclr,
You wrote,[...numbing...a cold, harsh world...].
But is is not just make believe when one numbs themselves with chemicals? I mean, the chemicals do not chamge the reality of that we are in the world, in your opinion, does it?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
In reply to Re: They're just figuring this out???, posted by linkadge on February 19, 2010, at 15:18:41
> These are very good points. The problem is that the biggest voice that gets heard is that of the psychiatrists, doctors and drug companies. These parties livelyhood depends on the best portrayal of the medications.
>
> To add to your list you could put: overall lack of efficacy too. The establishment wants people to believe depression is this cut and dry thing. You take a pill, everything is better. You take the drug and it works.
>
> I think the sickest part is when the meds are prescribed so liberally to kids. Kid's brains are changing so rapidly that they often can't detect what a med is doing. Pair that with the lack of efficacy and research I can only ask why.
>
> Linkadge
>
> Friends,
It is written here.[...wants people to believe...take a pill...].
The pill can work when one wants to make believe that it works (placebo). But what does one do after the placebo effect stops?
Then there comes a time to some when taking chemicals comes to a condition of death in their minds, and they can not make believe anymore. And they are like standing on one side of a great gulf that is separating them from life and they do not know how to passover. Some contemplate jumping off the cliff to their death, for they know not what to do to save them.
Some call out, "What must I do to be saved?"
Lou
Posted by linkadge on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou Pilder on February 19, 2010, at 15:42:52
Wow Lou,
Thats deep. You should write religious documents.
Linkadge
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
In reply to Re: Lou's response- » Lou Pilder, posted by linkadge on February 19, 2010, at 16:40:58
> Wow Lou,
>
> Thats deep. You should write religious documents.
>
> LinkadgeLinkage,
You wrote,[...That's deep...].
Many are called to the edge of the cliff that is on one side of the Great Gulf. You see, the Great Gulf is a symbol of that there is a separation between the two sides. And the Great Gulf that I am talking about is the separation between life and death. And many will be tempted at that place and stand at the edge and look down the shear cliff to see a river at the bottom that looks like a thread from that height.
I stood at that edge. And behold, a Rider on a White Horse appeared and said to me, "There is no temptation taken you but such that is common to all men, but My Father is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above that which you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it."
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
In reply to Lou's reply-aweighowt » linkadge, posted by Lou Pilder on February 19, 2010, at 19:00:45
Kind of like the saying God will give a person something that can't handle. Or something like that? Phillipa
Posted by topcatclr on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-aweighowt » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on February 19, 2010, at 19:16:59
pcatclr,
You wrote,[...numbing...a cold, harsh world...].
But is is not just make believe when one numbs themselves with chemicals? I mean, the chemicals do not chamge the reality of that we are in the world, in your opinion, does it?
Lou
Does not matter to me if it changes the reality or not, only that it changes how my mind perceives the reality is what matters. The world is what it is, if i need drugs to feel better and deal with it better, so be it! I sense a sort of passive-aggressive guilt trip being suggested, which is not needed! By the way, these meds are not placebos! They are powerful, life changing medications. Please don't suggest otherwise.
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 16:33:24
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-aweighowt » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
> Kind of like the saying God will give a person something that can't handle. Or something like that? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...God will give a person...]
Which God are you wanting to mean?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 17:12:37
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-aweighowt, posted by topcatclr on February 21, 2010, at 12:09:28
> pcatclr,
> You wrote,[...numbing...a cold, harsh world...].
> But is is not just make believe when one numbs themselves with chemicals? I mean, the chemicals do not chamge the reality of that we are in the world, in your opinion, does it?
> Lou
> Does not matter to me if it changes the reality or not, only that it changes how my mind perceives the reality is what matters. The world is what it is, if i need drugs to feel better and deal with it better, so be it! I sense a sort of passive-aggressive guilt trip being suggested, which is not needed! By the way, these meds are not placebos! They are powerful, life changing medications. Please don't suggest otherwise.topcatclr,
You wrote,[...these meds..They are..life changing...].
You see, I am talking here about a life changing experiance. The change is not by human achievement, though. It is by deliverance, which I am getting to as {divine accomplishment}.
Best wishes,
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 18:15:07
In reply to Lou's reply-humnachevvsdivinacomp » topcatclr, posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 17:12:37
> > pcatclr,
> > You wrote,[...numbing...a cold, harsh world...].
> > But is is not just make believe when one numbs themselves with chemicals? I mean, the chemicals do not chamge the reality of that we are in the world, in your opinion, does it?
> > Lou
> > Does not matter to me if it changes the reality or not, only that it changes how my mind perceives the reality is what matters. The world is what it is, if i need drugs to feel better and deal with it better, so be it! I sense a sort of passive-aggressive guilt trip being suggested, which is not needed! By the way, these meds are not placebos! They are powerful, life changing medications. Please don't suggest otherwise.
>
> topcatclr,
> You wrote,[...these meds..They are..life changing...].
> You see, I am talking here about a life changing experiance. The change is not by human achievement, though. It is by deliverance, which I am getting to as {divine accomplishment}.
> Best wishes,
> Lou
>
> topcatclr,
You wrote,[...if I need drugs to feel better and to deal with it better, so be it!...]
I am not having dialog with you to convince you to abandon using drugs to feel better and deal with it (the world) better.
I am talking here about a change. It is a change of the heart, where one sings a new song. The song has been revealed to me by the God that I give service and worship to, which is the same God that the Jews also give service and worship to, to be The Word of God that one could hear as Spirit.
I am not trying to change your position to use drugs to cause a change, verses the change being accomplished by the Spirit of the God I am talking about. I have invited others that want to accept this opportunity to find out how this could happen to post here in this thread and that one could reject this opportunity also.
I have been talking about a Great Gulf that separates one, symbolically, from death and life. I have come here for those that want to leave one side and reach the other side which is the Kingdom of the God that I give service and worship to. There is a way that has been revealed to me that I want to share with those here that are wanting to leave the use of psychotropic drugs. I think that they stand at the edge of the Great Gulf. For it has been revealed to me that David found himself there also. And he said the following. And if one at the edge could say the following, the God that I am talking about is the God that has promised to lead one to the Kingdom of God. And David said as he stood there, as is in the 139th Psalm the verse 23 and 24;
"Search me, O God; and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts;
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting."
Lou
Posted by Buckeye Fan on February 22, 2010, at 7:03:16
In reply to Lou's reply-, posted by Lou Pilder on February 21, 2010, at 18:15:07
I have placed my faith in the God of The Bible.
He is the one true God, who sent His Son The Lord Jesus , born of a virgin,who lived a sinless life for 33 years( approx) was crucified, and rose again on the third day.
He offers Eternal Life to all who accept Him.
I have served Him, for some 30 years, and He has never failed me or let me down.
He created each and every one of us, and loves us with an love that is unfathonable.
Because of sin, we live in a fallen world, and have imperfect fallen natures that have the capability of great heights of nobility...and unfortunately great depths of depravity.
The Lord is there....even we we are miserable, depressed and think we cannot go on.
Regardless of our personal struggles with mental illness,..He DOES care about you and I..and knows what we are going through.
Seek Him out in prayer and the Study of His Word...and He promises to reveal Himself to you and I personally.
As I said...He has never let me down or face life alone for over 3 decades.
Praise His holy Name.
BF
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2010, at 7:55:51
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-, posted by Buckeye Fan on February 22, 2010, at 7:03:16
> I have placed my faith in the God of The Bible.
>
> He is the one true God, who sent His Son The Lord Jesus , born of a virgin,who lived a sinless life for 33 years( approx) was crucified, and rose again on the third day.
>
> He offers Eternal Life to all who accept Him.
>
> I have served Him, for some 30 years, and He has never failed me or let me down.
>
> He created each and every one of us, and loves us with an love that is unfathonable.
>
> Because of sin, we live in a fallen world, and have imperfect fallen natures that have the capability of great heights of nobility...and unfortunately great depths of depravity.
>
> The Lord is there....even we we are miserable, depressed and think we cannot go on.
>
> Regardless of our personal struggles with mental illness,..He DOES care about you and I..and knows what we are going through.
>
> Seek Him out in prayer and the Study of His Word...and He promises to reveal Himself to you and I personally.
>
> As I said...He has never let me down or face life alone for over 3 decades.
>
> Praise His holy Name.
>
> BFBF,
You wrote,[...I have placed my...the God of the Bible. He is the xxx yyyy God...to all that accept Him...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post an answer to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. (redacted by respondent)
B. Could you post here what caused, if there is a cause, you to place your faith in the God of the Bible?
C. What are you wanting to mean by {accept}?
D. other questions not stated
Lou
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