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Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 28, 2005, at 20:13:57
In the bible it says if one or more people agree and belive in faith, it will happen.
If you have any thing, lets pray.
Dear Lord,
I come to you in distress with problems, my thoughts, i pray they will stabilize, I ask for your healing. I pray with all other beliver's that we come to youwith our issues and pray that you will intervene. I know you Christ, i have seen you work, I pray for everyone. Lets agree. I pray for confusion to turn to understanding.
AmenIf you belive, please will you join this prayer. But you dont have to.
Take Care
Matt
Posted by cockeyed on July 29, 2005, at 1:31:19
In reply to can we have a Group Prayer of faith, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 28, 2005, at 20:13:57
Matt, I've read some of your stuff. Why the heck I'm on this board tonite...well, I believe/don't believe...and I can't really talk about faith. But there is 'kindness' and I mean it in a special way. I feel a bit stupid offering this flimsy advice. Except it worked for me. I was hiding in my cellar, drunk on depression. And everything collapsed on me. I was probably drunk, but that doesn't matter. I just quit. [not drinking] I just quit trying to feel better. I fell on the damn cellar floor and tried bargaining with god...my bargain was really lame. I'd come to the end of my road. I cursed him for a bastard or such, all the while
prostrate on the floor. I didn't need any rehearsal all my exits were shut. And I was so damn miserable, I just gave up and lay there crying on the floor. I told him I didn't give a damn, I was going to close my eyes, hold my nose
and leap into the vacuum of faith. That's what it was too me, a place empty, a figment of wishful thinking....I just damn well gave up. And I just told him and myself whatever happened I'd do anything to change my life. Maybe because I was lying on the floor, maybe because there was no escape, I took a leap into the dark and asked him to give me "faith?" I don't really know. But I knew nothing was right with me
and... to this day, I don't know what happened. I remember getting up and going for a long walk. Something had changed and I've no clue what it was but I could live a little bit starting that grey february day. Whatever happened it work because that excruciating cancer that was eating up my soul was temporarily at bay. Not much. But just enuff to keep me going one more day...And I knew it, and I felt it. Maybe not much of a miracle, but, lord, I still bless that day. I just lay on the floor and I said "no more" [no more of what I can't say] Just gave up and leaped into the dark. And that's about all I can say. there was something or someone there who helped me up and got me through...frankly, days of hell. Nothing to do but pace up and down all day. I hope this helps. To be honest, I think falling on the floor and crying sent a message to me, that I was way the hell off worse than I thought or I pretended to be. Good luck; days of hell pass slowly. For all I know they may be prayers for others suffering out there. cockeyed.
Posted by Carolina on July 29, 2005, at 7:08:21
In reply to Re: can we have a Group Prayer of faith » rjlockhart98, posted by cockeyed on July 29, 2005, at 1:31:19
that took a lot of courage from u and the depth into which u just opened urself up brought tears to my eyes...in a good way. i've been where u were and tried to end my life in a drunken state and against all odds (medically speaking), i lived to see the next day and i hit bottom and prayed to the Lord and cursed Him at the same time. that day in september of 02 when i awoke in many aspects,i knew i needed help b/c as u put it, the "cancer" in my soul was killing me. i wasn't "all better" that day but it was the 1st of many days to begin doing everything i could to stop that awful "cancer" and i truly believe that God was my strength that day and "showed" me how to take that 1st step, but it was up to me to take it and life is better today b/c of that and i am here b/c of Him...don't know where all this came from but thank u for sharing. for some reason i needed to read that and maybe thats why u got on this site? they say God works in mysterious ways.take care of u-carolina
Posted by Dena on July 30, 2005, at 8:42:10
In reply to Re: can we have a Group Prayer of faith » cockeyed, posted by Carolina on July 29, 2005, at 7:08:21
You've both described, in powerful and personal ways, how a human being hits a type of "bottom", and,having NO WHERE ELSE to go, cries out to the One we all sense is there...
He responds to such genuine cries for help... and, in His mercy, He even allows, and understands the curses that we fire off at Him. He knows our pain, feels it with us, and isn't shocked at how our pain causes us to lash out...
Suffering in this life is a given -- sometimes due to our own choices, and also, due to the choices of others... it's the price for having free will, and not having been created as robots.
God loves us enough to let us make choices -- including the choice to love Him back - or not. I believe that His love is always being poured out to us... His truth always flowing out to us... and we have the choice to "tune in" to that love and truth, or to shut ourselves off from it, and try to go it alone.
He'll let us, despite how He grieves for our choice, and the pain that will result.
And yet, choosing Him, and His way, doesn't guarantee a life of no pain... far from it. Suffering is just part of the package of being alive on planet Earth.
It comforts me to know (& to have experienced) His presence in the middle of the suffering ... and He uses that very suffering to bring us closer to Him, and to teach us about trust, faith, and patience (I know, I hate that word, too!)...
It ain't easy, but in the end, it's well worth the pain.
Thank you both for daring to share your stories -- they were profound and real, and I've been touched.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Carolina on July 30, 2005, at 8:59:30
In reply to Re: can we have a Group Prayer of faith, posted by Dena on July 30, 2005, at 8:42:10
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