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Posted by 64bowtie on December 4, 2004, at 12:11:18
<<<<< The below text is from notes by David Peck, some of our weekly readings, etc. I have inserted them here to create a little perspective for making a point.
The point of this writing is that information taken in by us can be either correct or incorrect. To be always correct, we would have to be God-like, and we're built wrong for that job.
...from the unpublished writings of David F. Peck, LCSW/MFCC (1925-2003)
PENROSE’S THEORY (Optional reading)
1. Roger Penrose has proposed that consciousness is generated by a quantum mechanics process involving oscillations of the tubins which make up the microtubule in the axons of some neurons. In the beginning of the oscillation, the mass of material is small enough that it attains superposition. When the mass of material in motions passes a threshold between the quantum mechanics/classical mechanics, the small bit of information encoded in the oscillations is catapulted into conscious experience. While Penrose’s theory is conjectural and controversial, we assume that his theory, or a similar process, will eventually be proven as correct.
2. The fact that the microtubule are also involved in the chemical changes at the synaptic junctions which are related to the chemistry of learning, supports our theory that the mind brain interaction is bilateral. Not only does the brain generate the conscious mind, but the conscious mind has the power to affect changes in the chemical structure at the synaptic junction. Changes in the chemical structure of the synaptic bring changes in the circuitry of the neurons and effectively changes the way information is processed and experienced.
3. Consciousness is made up of small pieces of information which do not occur over time. Each discrete bit is generated by neural activity at a point in time. The firing of the neuron results in the oscillations in the microtubule which produces a cascade of bits of conscious information. The many discrete bits of consciousness, simultaneously generated in diverse parts of the brain are combined into the unified and seamless whole of conscious experience. Though this ongoing stream of cascading bits of conscious experience occurs over time, each bit is experienced at a dimension less point in time.
THE EXPERIENCE OF TIME AND SPACE1. Because each bit of consciousness is experienced at a point in time, not over time, we can experience time itself.
2. In like manner, consciousness does not occur within a specific space, therefore we can experience space.
3. This may seem confusing because every conscious experience is oriented in time and space therefore it contains information about time and space. Information about time and space must always be from a particular perspective in time and space and each conscious experience contains such information. This information, which orients a conscious experience in time and space, may be correct or incorrect at any moment. This is the evidence of "uncertainty theory".
<<<<<...what I have found in this writing:This is it! This is the location or point in our psyches that allows "free-will". We can take in correct info, or faulty, distorted, and/or incorrect information. Righteousness might presume that this is a "beggars plight". We only need information that is correct, undamaged and accurate to have free will, or we are destined for Hell and damnation. I worry about righteousness...
I depart from this "miracle based" mythe to say that, "Properly prepaired, mankind is capable of great good, that we seldom witness". Mankind is too busy obeying base needs such as the need to never be dissatisfied; to always seeking gratification; mankind's choice by free will (according to the Penrose theory above).
We blindly continue to "spackle" over our bad feelings generated by results of playing out our bad habits, our dysfunction, by pleasure seeking ever elusive feel-goods. Again our choice!
Until researchers prove that we are "hardwired for holiness", thus have no infinitely adaptable free will as indicated by our ability to take in correct or incorrect information, I'm sticking to my story! I continue to see more and more freedom and happiness moments in my (peculiar) life due to "visual updating" as a strategy for being better prepaired, in my feelings, motives, and behaviors.
I sense I must be good at human things and be good at heavenly things. Tough choices are therefore everpresent....
Rod
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2004, at 12:25:01
In reply to Free will conundrum explored, posted by 64bowtie on December 4, 2004, at 12:11:18
> This is it! This is the location or point in our psyches that allows "free-will"...
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect this thread to Psycho-Babble Social. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20041202/msgs/424323.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by 64bowtie on December 4, 2004, at 12:40:29
In reply to Redirect: Free will, posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2004, at 12:25:01
Dr-Bob,
I was on the "horns of a dilemma" about which site for that post, Social or faith anyway.
Rod
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