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Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 21:34:13
In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24
Reform Judaism 100%
Sikhism 99%
Bahai Faith 99%
Islam 94%
Orthodox Judaism 94%Everything else way down.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 15, 2003, at 22:28:21
In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 21:34:13
hi Dinah,
thanks for participating and sharing your results ...
so, your top rankings are:> Reform Judaism 100%
> Sikhism 99%
> Bahai Faith 99%
> Islam 94%
> Orthodox Judaism 94%
>
> Everything else way down.... ... and, of course, you are unique!
do you feel this is reflective of your faith?
... so consistently middle-eastern, i must say ...any feedback's appreciated!
thanks again for being a good sport!
hope you had fun!~ Shalom ~
~ jim
Posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 23:20:20
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on July 15, 2003, at 22:28:21
Hmmm, I guess it's pretty accurate. I think Conservative Judaism would be a better choice for me than reform or orthodox, but I don't think it was an option. It's the same results I got last time I took the test, so it's consistent. I don't know all that much about Sikhism. I liked what I've read about Bahai. And Islam covers a lot of ground. That would be like saying Christian with no further qualifier.
When I was in college I wanted to join the Zoroastrians. Until I learned about the ox urine thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I respect everyone's customs. It just didn't sound right for me.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 16, 2003, at 2:01:09
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2003, at 23:20:20
and Zoroastrianism isn't on the list, either ... ...
what else have these BeliefNet.com-ers left out?... ... "ox urine" ... ... ?
... if i beg will you tell me?
Posted by habbyshabit on July 16, 2003, at 3:53:30
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on July 16, 2003, at 2:01:09
What an interesting thread! Thanks Jim for getting this thing going. I looked up universal unitarianism on line just to see what I was so 100% of! Of course, I didn't have much time to read much. I did find out there is a local chapter and church in the town close to here. I may have to visit them for a service or two to get a feel for it. It is located in a College town and so they are not having any services during the months of July and August. There are only 45 members to begin with - so if most are students, they'd be off home or something I guess.
It's kind of amazing that most who have taken the test come out with a high percentage of that particular religion on their lists. Does that mean those types are more likely to take the test?
I guess truly, this is only a small sampling and two contributors to the thread came our significantly different - and different from each other - so it's all very curious and interesting. I've enjoyed the whole thing quite a bit.
I'd grovel to find out about Ox urine also....
Habby
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2003, at 11:47:51
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by habbyshabit on July 16, 2003, at 3:53:30
It was bull's urine which is considered a powerful purifying agent in Zoroastrianism.
http://www.pyracantha.com/Z/vendnet.html
"Most of the purification rituals in the Vendidad consist of multiple baths or rubdowns with bull's urine, earth, and water, accompanied by the recital of the proper prayers. The most powerful ritual is the barashnom, a rite that lasts nine days and nights, in which the person to be purified is isolated in a special enclosure and bathed nine times with the sequence of bull's urine, dry earth, and water, as he moves through a series of sacred patterns and spaces laid out on the ground. This ritual can take away the pollution of close contact with corpses, but is reserved for serious occasions due to its length and complexity."
http://www.darkendreams.com/zoroastrianism.html
http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/gnosis/zoroaster.html
It's a fascinating religion. One of the first monotheistic religions, although actually it is more of a dualistic religion. Good/Evil.
Posted by trucker on July 26, 2003, at 21:23:24
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results!, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:34:30
> ... And here are our lil' jimi's results ...
>
> 1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
> 2. Mahayana Buddhism (98%)
> 3. Unitarian Universalism (91%)
> 4. New Age (91%)
> 5. Hinduism (85%)
> 6. Theravada Buddhism (85%)
> 7. Liberal Quakers (78%)
> 8. New Thought (74%)
> 9. Taoism (71%)
> 10. Sikhism (70%)
> 11. Jainism (69%)
> 12. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (69%)
> 13. Scientology (64%)
> 14. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (59%)
> 15. Secular Humanism (54%)
> 16. Reform Judaism (51%)
> 17. Bahá'í Faith (45%)
> 18. Orthodox Quaker (43%)
> 19. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (32%)
> 20. Orthodox Judaism (31%)
> 21. Nontheist (29%)
> 22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (27%)
> 23. Jehovah's Witness (21%)
> 24. Islam (19%)
> 25. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)
> 26. Eastern Orthodox (14%)
> 27. Roman Catholic (14%)
>
> ... ... and he calls himself a Buddhist!!
>
> .... .... i can find out about these Neo-Pagans, maybe ... ...
> ... ... any Neo-Pags out there?
> ... ... Not Sure?
> ... ... Then try the ol' Belief-O-Matic!
>
>
> (98% ain't too bad ... ... that's a solid 'A'. right?)
>
> ~ jim///////////////////////////////////////////////
what religion are you dear???
trucker
Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:14
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 26, 2003, at 21:23:24
i am a Buddhist ... a Mahayana Buddhist.
how about you?
~ jim
Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:14
> i am a Buddhist ... a Mahayana Buddhist.
>
> how about you?
>
> ~ jim////////////////////////////////////////////////
don't know much about buddist
i am christian of the bible the whole thing
truckerwe all have our own beleifs don't we? i really didn't see mine on the test.
Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 16:10:33
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28
you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
... could be fun ...... what question would seem to be missing ?
Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 16:53:44
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 16:10:33
> you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> ... could be fun ...
>
> ... what question would seem to be missing ?/////////////////////////////////////////////////
I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...TRUCKER
Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 17:59:20
In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 16:53:44
> > you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> > ... could be fun ...
> >
> > ... what question would seem to be missing ?
>
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////
> I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...
>
> TRUCKERi'd hope i was easy-going enough for it to be a good conversation, ... but that could depend on you, of course ...
i, the unqualified, would venture that one who believes in Enlightenment and believes Enlightenment is possible for humans,
... would be considered a buddhist ... ...i pray to the buddha that i am not being graded on my spelling ... that's one of my beliefs ... HA!
peace,
~ jim
Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33
In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 17:59:20
> > > you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> > > ... could be fun ...
> > >
> > > ... what question would seem to be missing ?
> >
> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...
> >
> > TRUCKER
>
> i'd hope i was easy-going enough for it to be a good conversation, ... but that could depend on you, of course ...
>
> i, the unqualified, would venture that one who believes in Enlightenment and believes Enlightenment is possible for humans,
> ... would be considered a buddhist ... ...
>
> i pray to the buddha that i am not being graded on my spelling ... that's one of my beliefs ... HA!
>
> peace,
> ~ jim
>
>////////////////////////////////////////////////
EASY GOING YES, BUT SEE I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE CONVERSASTIONS ON RELIGION, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE. SO I DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT TOPIC TO MUCH EXCEPT TO LEARN ABOUT THE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. mine is from the HOLY BIBLE, i beleive in JESUS, and i usually get attacked for that beleif. so rather than destoy a budding poster relationship with any of you, i just stay back from it...hope you understand.
trucker
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18
In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33
> WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.
I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...
Bob
Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 22:31:03
In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33
well, i would be the last one to attack anybody's belief's ...
. .... (not to mention that such attacks are forbidden here) ........ but i have every respect for your desire to not go into ...
... as you wish, my poster buddy!
~ jim
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18
> > WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.
>
> I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...
>
> BobYou find that interesting, Dr. Bob? I sort of thought that's what "faith" is. And that it takes a conscious effort to remind ourselves otherwise. Either that, or my "faith" is rather circumscribed to the basics and I'm pretty open to the particulars. (In other words, my faith in any given religion is not that strong.) One of the two.
But perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)
Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:57:13
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31
Posted by lil' jimi on July 28, 2003, at 11:51:05
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18
hi Bob,
trucker wrote:
>>> WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.And you've responded:
>> I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...i agree with both you and what Dinah has posted: It is not surprising, but it is interesting ...
(all of my comments are to refer to NO Specific RELIGION(S) and
NO Offense is intended to any Non-Specific RELIGION(S), PLEASE. ... ... please ?)to make Dinah’s point(s) (forgive me Dinah, for i know not what i do),
... it is not unexpected that the True Believer of the True Religion would tend toward exclusivity and endogamy ... ... compromise being contradictory to the idea of the Absolute for some folks ... ... and to the specific exclusion of all of the “False Believers” in those “False Religions” ... and we may expect that the enforcing of the orthodox doctrine(s) gives rise to the harsher sanctions against heresy ... ... this is certainly the common path for the Devout in their Devotion ...... for the Fundamentalists of whichever stripe, steeped the One True Faith, it is virtually inescapable that the rest of the world (and all other religions) look(s) like delusion(s) peopled by the deluded ... all of which would seem to pose a peril to the Faithful ...
(mightn’t we expect that the bull-urine-bathers of the Zoroastrianism would exercise similar intolerance(s) ?)
what i believe makes this an interesting phenomena is that there are examples (of world religions) where this common feature does not obtain, but we may believe that nearly every religion would have its fundamentalists who might not endorse such inclusiveness and openness ... ...
( ... i now feel that this contribution has come to its end ... ... for fear that one might transgress, not only on our civility, but on our fellow posters’ religious feelings, and i do not want, nor you need, that ... ... the tenderness of the subject demands (i feel) being even less specific (less pointed) than i might have been headed for here, lest any one be ... offended.)
i will say that i find it easy and comfortable to be accepting of others’ religious beliefs ... ... even when they have difficulty with mine ... ... that said, what i do find difficult, for me, is tolerating / indulging attacks and tirades against any persons of faith for their faith ... and this is all too common in our less-than-civil world of exteriority.
May All Hearts Hope,
~ jim
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 22:31:05
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31
> perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)
But no longer, at least, for the wary? :-)
Bob
Posted by Tabitha on July 29, 2003, at 3:11:46
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31
while I was browsing beliefnet after taking the quiz, I found this interesting article.
http://www.randomhouse.com/features/chopra/everyday/excerpt.html
It says basically we can't know god directly, but we can experience the presence of god in different ways. He lists seven different ways, including the authority figure god, the creative god, the peaceful god, etc. I guess it's kind of like the blind men and the elephant story.
I thought this was a nice way to reconcile how people have such different ideas of god, and how they can all be correct, even if there's only one god.
Now why people are inclined to get adamant that their idea is the most correct one, I don't know.
Posted by MissouriGal on July 29, 2003, at 14:29:38
In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24
> ..... ..... Belief-O-Matic ..... .....
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html
>
> It's simple!
> It's perplexing!
> It's multiple-choice!
> Will it tell you what religion you are? ... ...
>
> Just take the Belief-O-Matic survey
> and
> then post back here what your results were!I know, I'm late in on this, but I just found this site today. I found this thread interesting, and I took the quiz, just to see what it would show. Don't know about others' result, but for me it is pretty much on the mark. Here are the results I got:
1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
2. New Age (95%)
3. Unitarian Universalism (84%)
4. Mahayana Buddhism (78%)
5. New Thought (76%)
6. Liberal Quakers (72%)
7. Hinduism (71%)
8. Scientology (69%)
9. Reform Judaism (69%)
10. Jainism (66%)
11. Sikhism (61%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (59%)
13. Taoism (57%)
14. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (54%)
15. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (54%)
16. Bahá'í Faith (53%)
17. Secular Humanism (49%)
18. Orthodox Judaism (46%)
19. Orthodox Quaker (40%)
20. Islam (37%)
21. Nontheist (26%)
22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (19%)
23. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (18%)
24. Seventh Day Adventist (16%)
25. Eastern Orthodox (12%)
26. Roman Catholic (12%)
27. Jehovah's Witness (9%)
Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:12:37
In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Tabitha on July 29, 2003, at 3:11:46
hi Tabitha!
you have written:
> while I was browsing beliefnet after taking the quiz, I found this interesting article.
>
> http://www.randomhouse.com/features/chopra/everyday/excerpt.html
>
> It says basically we can't know god directly, but we can experience the presence of god in different ways. He lists seven different ways, including the authority figure god, the creative god, the peaceful god, etc. I guess it's kind of like the blind men and the elephant story.
>
> I thought this was a nice way to reconcile how people have such different ideas of god, and how they can all be correct, even if there's only one god.
>
> Now why people are inclined to get adamant that their idea is the most correct one, I don't know.... i thank you for your contribution here ... i have been meaning to post how much i appreciated your post ... it is BEAUTIFUL ... and you write so well ... very clear and relaxed ... i wish my posts as direct and lucid ... you have inspired me ... and it has taken me from when you posted to now, trying to figure out how to express how much i like your post ... ... so i gave up and posted this instead ...
... ... anyway, THANKS!
~ jimp.s. if you took the quiz, did it reflect your beliefs?
Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:34:38
In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by MissouriGal on July 29, 2003, at 14:29:38
hi, MissouriGal!
Hope you had fun! .... .... no way to be too late here ... always glad to have your participation ... ... i thank you for it ...
i find your rankings very close to mine, Mercury's, Habby's and some others of us here ... ... interesting to me ...
thanks again,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:57:38
In reply to re: many and sundry traps, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 22:31:05
> > perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)
>
> But no longer, at least, for the wary? :-)
>
> BobYeah, i agree ... ... but it is because i have become one of
"the wary" ...... ... we can learn to be Both
_Civil_,
and
_Adamantine-as-diamond_,
if we have to ... ...... ... sometimes this means we must exercise the wisdom of silence ...
i have been learning, anyway ...
one can exercise loving-kindness while being fairly tough .. ... ..although this CAN be a new lesson for the unwary ...
~ jim
Posted by Tabitha on July 31, 2003, at 13:08:12
In reply to re: ours is the right one » Tabitha, posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:12:37
Wow, thank you Jimi, how very kind. I just loved the ideas in that article.
I didn't save the Belief-o-matic results, but it was something like this...
Unitarian Universalist 100%
Reformed Judaism
Liberal QuakerI took it once a few months ago and it came out differently.
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